U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

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Anonymous wrote:If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.

Agree TJ is a waste of resources. Either end it or go full lottery. At least, the other 95% of the population may benefit.

Nah. it takes Governor/legislative action to change a governor's school back to base school so it ain't happening so stop wasting people's time with this. It ain't going back to base school and lottery ain't happening so stop wasting time.

Every year FCPS applies for TJ to be redesignated as a Governor's School for the upcoming year, so stop spreading misinformation.

Nah. Every year they apply to receive the money for Governor's school from the State. You need legislative/Governor's actions to change the status of governor's school back to base school. Do better and do some research before spreading disinformation Russian puppet.

The county owns TJ, not the state, moron.

PWC, Loudoun, Arlington and Falls Church City PAID about 27% of the building renovation costs (tens of millions of dollars) so they have partial ownership Russian asset.

That’s a sunk cost.

TJ needs to be closed so that FCPS can focus on the other 99% of students.

If the new superintendent does nothing else, she should close TJ. It will be a politically risky move, but it needs to be done.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.

That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS

Wasn't that the whole point? I mean do we want our children going to school with the poor?

That’s why so many parents push for their kids to get into AAP.

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That is the function of public schools!

No wonder those dumb spoilt brats at Wharton though that the average American wage was in the 6 figures.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/20/wharton-students-wages-salary-twitter-strohminger/

They obviously had zero exposure to even average middle class people their whole lives, let alone the poor.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.

Agree TJ is a waste of resources. Either end it or go full lottery. At least, the other 95% of the population may benefit.

Nah. it takes Governor/legislative action to change a governor's school back to base school so it ain't happening so stop wasting people's time with this. It ain't going back to base school and lottery ain't happening so stop wasting time.

Every year FCPS applies for TJ to be redesignated as a Governor's School for the upcoming year, so stop spreading misinformation.

Nah. Every year they apply to receive the money for Governor's school from the State. You need legislative/Governor's actions to change the status of governor's school back to base school. Do better and do some research before spreading disinformation Russian puppet.

Doesn't matter, those districts have equitable claim on the property under equity. You must be familiar with the term "equity".

The county owns TJ, not the state, moron.

PWC, Loudoun, Arlington and Falls Church City PAID about 27% of the building renovation costs (tens of millions of dollars) so they have partial ownership Russian asset.

That’s a sunk cost.

TJ needs to be closed so that FCPS can focus on the other 99% of students.

If the new superintendent does nothing else, she should close TJ. It will be a politically risky move, but it needs to be done.

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^^ this is 185% of poverty level (25,750) which qualifies for reduced lunch.

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If you look at TJ 2025 admission stats,
30.7% under represented schools
25.1% economically disadvantaged
7.1% language learners
5.5% ELL
2.4% Special Ed

I am sure there will be overlaps, and we can not simply take above numbers at face value and add then and say 71% of all TJ seats went to other experience factors. But, due to lack of missing cumulative data (deliberate??), even if take some sort of middle ground (about half overlaps in numbers) and say 50% went to other experience factors, that’s quite a lot and I would say other factors are significantly over subscribed and totally unfair to general population. You can’t simple take away or pre allocate ‘half’ or even the ‘best case’ scenario of 40-45% of seats. Though I am somewhat partial to admission changes, I fully understand the frustration some parents and kids are expressing. This is bad!

Also, outside of ‘experience factors’, the new process gives same score to 7&8th grade GPA as single 30min science essay or portrait sheet (300 points each). And since GPA is unweighted, it’s clearly a disadvantage to take harder courses even available to them. Since there is no teacher input, it’s really hard to distinguish the talent, especially at AAP center schools and the whole process is essentially a lottery among 200 or so similar on paper students apply from center schools and only about 20-30 get in. So stupid and I am not sure if this is a conscious decision or FCPS didn’t actually think through the implications.

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If the point of schools like Thomas Jefferson is to educate our best and brightest to compete on the world stage, then it’s not likely they will represent perfectly the socioeconomic make up of the county. We are going to have to decide as a society whether equality across all socioeconomic and racial backgrounds supersedes our need to educate top performers to compete at the highest levels in the world. It can’t be both. It’s nice to think it can be both and maybe someday in the future it will be, but that’s not realistic right now. Students at the higher socioeconomic levels simply have too many advantages in the first 14 years of their lives: parents who speak to them all the time, enrichment classes, tutors, extracurricular activities. You simply can’t make all of that up after age 14.

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The current and most recent former POTUS are in their 70s. The non traditional age student population are graduating colleges in increasing numbers.

It’s ridiculous to tell kids in their early teens that elite education isn’t for them.

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Anonymous wrote:If the point of schools like Thomas Jefferson is to educate our best and brightest to compete on the world stage, then it’s not likely they will represent perfectly the socioeconomic make up of the county. We are going to have to decide as a society whether equality across all socioeconomic and racial backgrounds supersedes our need to educate top performers to compete at the highest levels in the world. It can’t be both. It’s nice to think it can be both and maybe someday in the future it will be, but that’s not realistic right now. Students at the higher socioeconomic levels simply have too many advantages in the first 14 years of their lives: parents who speak to them all the time, enrichment classes, tutors, extracurricular activities. You simply can’t make all of that up after age 14.

Darn right. TJ ain't for plebs.

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Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

Please stop using facts to ruin my crazy right-wing narrative!

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Anonymous wrote:If the point of schools like Thomas Jefferson is to educate our best and brightest to compete on the world stage, then it’s not likely they will represent perfectly the socioeconomic make up of the county. We are going to have to decide as a society whether equality across all socioeconomic and racial backgrounds supersedes our need to educate top performers to compete at the highest levels in the world. It can’t be both. It’s nice to think it can be both and maybe someday in the future it will be, but that’s not realistic right now. Students at the higher socioeconomic levels simply have too many advantages in the first 14 years of their lives: parents who speak to them all the time, enrichment classes, tutors, extracurricular activities. You simply can’t make all of that up after age 14.

Darn right. TJ ain't for plebs.

And using a means to identify top performers that is easily gamed by spending 10 grand on prep classes isn't going to yield that result either.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.

That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS

Wasn't that the whole point? I mean do we want our children going to school with the poor?

That’s why so many parents push for their kids to get into AAP.

I was being sarcastic but yes, it sounds a lot like a way to segregate kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.

That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS

Wasn't that the whole point? I mean do we want our children going to school with the poor?

That’s why so many parents push for their kids to get into AAP.

I was being sarcastic but yes, it sounds a lot like a way to segregate kids.

You were being sarcastic but read the AAP forum. It’s absolutely a reason why parents push to get their kids into AAP.