U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

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Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.


Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.


TJ is the most diverse school in the county.


Yeah, you don’t get to claim that when 30% of the county along either racial or socioeconomic metrics are virtually absent from your demographic.


You have to do the work if demonstrating why your desired diversity is the better one.


It’s a community resource that isn’t set aside solely for a small portion of the community.

Nope, you’re missing the bigger picture. By having one of the best high schools in the country (also better overall school system), it attracts businesses, jobs and home buyers. Which in turn increases real estate prices and tax base.
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None of that helps the underprivileged sections of the community. Those increased Tax’s are not going to the poor school districts. Poor people aren’t getting hired for jobs requiring degrees or buying expensive homes.
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Anonymous wrote:None of that helps the underprivileged sections of the community. Those increased Tax’s are not going to the poor school districts. Poor people aren’t getting hired for jobs requiring degrees or buying expensive homes.


Yes it does.
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Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.


Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.


TJ is the most diverse school in the county.


Yeah, you don’t get to claim that when 30% of the county along either racial or socioeconomic metrics are virtually absent from your demographic.


You have to do the work if demonstrating why your desired diversity is the better one.


It’s a community resource that isn’t set aside solely for a small portion of the community.

Nope, you’re missing the bigger picture. By having one of the best high schools in the country (also better overall school system), it attracts businesses, jobs and home buyers. Which in turn increases real estate prices and tax base.


No. “Attracting businesses” isn’t the mission of TJ.
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Anonymous wrote: What standard are you using to claim that TJ is the most diverse in the county?

According to US news it’s enrolment of Black Hispanic and low income kids is abysmal.

2.4 % Hispanic

1.9% black

2% economically disadvantaged

Compare that to census data for Fairfax country

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fairfaxcountyvirginia

Black - 10.6%

Hispanic- 16.5%

Poverty - 5.3%



Exactly.
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If you want a race to the bottom, you will turn FCPS into DCPS. DCPS caters to the poor and middle.
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Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.
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Anonymous wrote: What standard are you using to claim that TJ is the most diverse in the county?

According to US news it’s enrolment of Black Hispanic and low income kids is abysmal.

2.4 % Hispanic

1.9% black

2% economically disadvantaged

Compare that to census data for Fairfax country

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fairfaxcountyvirginia

Black - 10.6%

Hispanic- 16.5%

Poverty - 5.3%




I've read the improved admission process had much better outcomes for almost every demographic cohort but the one which was still overrepresented by 3X so overall a huge improvement.
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Anonymous wrote:The pro "reform" people need to be honest at least with themselves. This entire exercise is motivated by race.

It all started when the admission result for 2020 was released and showed a break down by race. Black students were TS ( too small less than 10). Please stop with the revision history. It has nothing to do with geo locations, economic factors. The whole thing started because FCPS didn't like the racial makeup and it engineered a racial balancing policy. FCPS used George Floyd's tragedy - again a racial conflict - to push through the change.

The enacted geo quota and experience factors are proxy to race to achieve that goal.

TJ is the most diverse school FCPS has by many other dimensions. It's just not diverse by a strange definition of race that lumps all Asians into a single category.


Most diverse in what category?

There were 0.6% low-income admitted for class of 24. Only 6% from underrepresented schools. Many middle schools had zero students admitted.


TJ is the most diverse school in the county.


Yeah, you don’t get to claim that when 30% of the county along either racial or socioeconomic metrics are virtually absent from your demographic.


You have to do the work if demonstrating why your desired diversity is the better one.


It’s a community resource that isn’t set aside solely for a small portion of the community.

Nope, you’re missing the bigger picture. By having one of the best high schools in the country (also better overall school system), it attracts businesses, jobs and home buyers. Which in turn increases real estate prices and tax base.


I think you’re missing the bigger picture. By setting aside 30% of its seats for students who don’t live in the county and then taking up a disproportionate amount of the time and attention of school administrators and a School Board with a limited bandwidth to engage in political confrontations with the community over equitable access, TJHSST deprives other schools of attention and resources, contributes to overcrowding at county schools, underscores the gulf between a single magnet school and the other 24 high schools in FCPS, and reveals the overt politicization of local elected officials.

It’s outlived its usefulness and should be returned to community use ASAP.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.


Agree TJ is a waste of resources. Either end it or go full lottery. At least, the other 95% of the population may benefit.


Nah. it takes Governor/legislative action to change a governor's school back to base school so it ain't happening so stop wasting people's time with this. It ain't going back to base school and lottery ain't happening so stop wasting time.


Every year FCPS applies for TJ to be redesignated as a Governor's School for the upcoming year, so stop spreading misinformation.


Nah. Every year they apply to receive the money for Governor's school from the State. You need legislative/Governor's actions to change the status of governor's school back to base school. Do better and do some research before spreading disinformation Russian puppet.
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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.


That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS
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Anonymous wrote:If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.


Agree TJ is a waste of resources. Either end it or go full lottery. At least, the other 95% of the population may benefit.


Nah. it takes Governor/legislative action to change a governor's school back to base school so it ain't happening so stop wasting people's time with this. It ain't going back to base school and lottery ain't happening so stop wasting time.


Every year FCPS applies for TJ to be redesignated as a Governor's School for the upcoming year, so stop spreading misinformation.


Nah. Every year they apply to receive the money for Governor's school from the State. You need legislative/Governor's actions to change the status of governor's school back to base school. Do better and do some research before spreading disinformation Russian puppet.


The county owns TJ, not the state, moron.
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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.


That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS


Making 29,000 or 31,000 for a family of 3 might not make the kid qualify for FARMS but that sure ain't rich. Get a grip.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were the new superintendent coming into the area and seeing how much fighting there is over TJ admissions and hearing about some of the overcrowding in FCPS, I would seriously ask why the school isn’t returned to use as a community school.

Be bold, Dr. Reid! Ask the questions the faux liberals on the School Board don’t raise.


Agree TJ is a waste of resources. Either end it or go full lottery. At least, the other 95% of the population may benefit.


Nah. it takes Governor/legislative action to change a governor's school back to base school so it ain't happening so stop wasting people's time with this. It ain't going back to base school and lottery ain't happening so stop wasting time.


Every year FCPS applies for TJ to be redesignated as a Governor's School for the upcoming year, so stop spreading misinformation.


Nah. Every year they apply to receive the money for Governor's school from the State. You need legislative/Governor's actions to change the status of governor's school back to base school. Do better and do some research before spreading disinformation Russian puppet.


The county owns TJ, not the state, moron.


PWC, Loudoun, Arlington and Falls Church City PAID about 27% of the building renovation costs (tens of millions of dollars) so they have partial ownership Russian asset.
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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.


That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS


Making 29,000 or 31,000 for a family of 3 might not make the kid qualify for FARMS but that sure ain't rich. Get a grip.


That’s also not absolute poverty by global standards. Very few people in America live in absolute poverty by global standards.
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