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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

Please stop using facts to ruin my crazy right-wing narrative!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the point of schools like Thomas Jefferson is to educate our best and brightest to compete on the world stage, then it’s not likely they will represent perfectly the socioeconomic make up of the county. We are going to have to decide as a society whether equality across all socioeconomic and racial backgrounds supersedes our need to educate top performers to compete at the highest levels in the world. It can’t be both. It’s nice to think it can be both and maybe someday in the future it will be, but that’s not realistic right now. Students at the higher socioeconomic levels simply have too many advantages in the first 14 years of their lives: parents who speak to them all the time, enrichment classes, tutors, extracurricular activities. You simply can’t make all of that up after age 14.

Darn right. TJ ain't for plebs.

And using a means to identify top performers that is easily gamed by spending 10 grand on prep classes isn't going to yield that result either.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.

That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS

Wasn't that the whole point? I mean do we want our children going to school with the poor?

That’s why so many parents push for their kids to get into AAP.

I was being sarcastic but yes, it sounds a lot like a way to segregate kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell that to the likely Asian doctor who grew up in absolute poverty by global standards who is caring for you next time you go to hospital.

That kid wouldn’t get into TJ under the previous process because NO POOR KIDS GOT IN UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS

Wasn't that the whole point? I mean do we want our children going to school with the poor?

That’s why so many parents push for their kids to get into AAP.

I was being sarcastic but yes, it sounds a lot like a way to segregate kids.

You were being sarcastic but read the AAP forum. It’s absolutely a reason why parents push to get their kids into AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

Did you bother asking the question why? Because the low-income students in NYC were Asians who prioritized education. Like everything else, it is about priorities worked on over a long time.

[Anonymous]

I thought that most of the Asians in TJ where low income, at least that has been claimed on here many times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that most of the Asians in TJ where low income, at least that has been claimed on here many times.

Very few to none before the change to the selection criteria. Before it was mostly students from wealthy schools whose families could afford to invest heavily in outside prep.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that most of the Asians in TJ where low income, at least that has been claimed on here many times.

Very few to none before the change to the selection criteria. Before it was mostly students from wealthy schools whose families could afford to invest heavily in outside prep.

You are so fond of attacking "wealthy" schools because class warfare is all you know. It's your short-hand for schools that attracted a lot of Asian families for their strong peer groups and academic excellence, and where parents scraped by in many cases to prepare them for TJ's rigors.

You're convinced TJ will be better now that less prepared kids have a stronger chance of getting admitted to TJ than well prepared kids, but this is already impacting TJ's reputation and will continue to do so over the coming years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that most of the Asians in TJ where low income, at least that has been claimed on here many times.

People lie.

Especially Republicans trying to push wedge issues.

The class of 2024 only had 0.6% (less than 1%) low-income students.

Out of a county with 27% low-income.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

Did you bother asking the question why? Because the low-income students in NYC were Asians who prioritized education. Like everything else, it is about priorities worked on over a long time.

So low-income Asians here did not “prioritize it”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

Clearly that wasn’t happening at TJ with only 0.6% low income admitted for class of 2024.

Please stop using facts to ruin my crazy right-wing narrative!

Class of 2024, you say? Do keep up.

[Anonymous]

Yup, 2025s
25% low-income

[Anonymous]

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

“Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless they study or take the test cold, and pass! These “unicorns” (barf, DCUM) do indeed exist. Witness the NYC magnets, e.g. Stuyvesant and Bronx Sci, both with 40% low-income students.

MIT's research also found that standardized tests actually improve diversity.