Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

BecUse he isn’t a good negotiator. He’s bad at his job. The only thing he got in his first two years was the tax cuts and that was only because Paul Ryan wanted it. He should have negotiated his wall funding into the tax cuts and got it passed in reconciliation if it was really that important to him. He’s bad at his job though so he didn’t do that.

Well you and the rest of the left have miscalculated. You've demonized him so much, that Trump can stay with his position on the Wall now indefinitely. He has absolutely no reason to cave--after all, you've already put him in jail. So, he can just dig in his heels and we'll see who blinks first. Get me the popcorn.

+1.

Frankly, it'd be quite fun if Trump can shut down the federal government for 6 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

Clap clap clap clap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

Time to put the pipe down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

Clap clap clap clap

You sound as impotent as your Dear Leader. Lots of big words which don't make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Ah, nothing like a wall of crazy text.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. And yet Trump rejected a negotiated deal that did this Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. Nope, 30's and falling A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her.Not a front runner and fake news It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. Bernie isn't a dem, he will never win a dem nomination HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. she won't Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. So you think kavanaugh is a qualified jurist and top of what this country has to offer? I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Mike Pompeo and a foreign policy guided by 'the raputre' says whut? Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) good lord, seriously? But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

[Anonymous]

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When the government shutdown began a week ago, many federal workers were more irked than anxious.

They’re really anxious now. What at first seemed like ho-hum political brinkmanship is looking more like a prolonged, punishing shutdown, more akin to the 27-day funding lapse in 1995 and 1996 than the blink-and-miss-it shutdowns earlier this year.

“This one feels different,” said Celia Hahn, a Transportation Security Administration officer at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, who is working without pay and worried about her mortgage and her son’s orthodontic expenses. “If it were to go about two weeks, that’s when people would start panicking.”

Dena Ivey, a furloughed probate specialist in the Anchorage office of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, lost many of her possessions during the recent Alaska earthquake, and feels overwhelmed by the man-made disaster now afflicting her family.

“We’re sort of being held hostage in the middle, and we have families and obligations,” said Ms. Ivey, a single mother. “I don’t know if I’m going to be able to make rent.” She added: “I’m basically living on credit now.”

There was a story on my local news about a federal worker grandmother who was a secretary at some agency pawning her mother’s jewelry because she wouldn’t be able to make rent without the expected paycheck that won’t come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

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Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 9, 2013

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the shutdown will be underway til mid January.

A large swath of the federal government is shut down — and so are negotiations to reopen it.

President Donald Trump’s standoff with Democratic leaders over the border wall dragged into a third day on Monday, with no hopes on either side of a Christmas deal to break the stalemate. It’s been 48 hours since the last real discussions between Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Vice President Mike Pence, and there's growing sentiment in the Capitol that the closure could drag on until mid-January.

Why is Trump acting like a child? No one wants this stupid wall.

From WaPo, here is latest polling on support for the wall:

A recent CNN poll showed that 61 percent of respondents oppose building a border wall without any funding from Mexico. Only 33 percent of respondents support such a plan, including 75 percent of Republicans, 32 percent of independents and just 4 percent of Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-claims-without-evidence-that-most-of-the-people-not-getting-paid-in-partial-government-shutdown-are-democrats/2018/12/27/afbc992a-09cc-11e9-88e3-989a3e456820_story.html?utm_term=.f370314027d5

Trump needs to stand down.

Does your poll indicate what percentage of residents in "border states" oppose or support a Wall? That would be a more significant data point since it's border state residents who have to deal with the brunt of illegal immigration that a Wall is designed to prevent.

I'm sure you know why D.C. and the surrounding suburbs are subject to such blatantly obvious de facto segregation, including actual physical walls in the wealthier areas.

According to the map below from https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053168016645830, border states like California and Arizona have the lowest levels of anti-immigrant sentiment. The highest are Arkansas, Utah, and Kentucky. I'm surprised by Ut, but Arkansas and Kentucky are very poor states reliant of federal monies.

I live in Phoenix: I’m not surprised since half of our population is from Central and South America and the other half moved here from California: if it wasn’t for the snowbirds spending money and paying taxes AZ would be a very different place. Our hospitals and social service agencies are bearing the brunt of illegal immigration. Meanwhile you limo liberals say we should take more. I say we load them on a bus and drop them off in the DMV. I agree with Trump, shut it down till it can be fixed.

You must have moved in from Michigan! The reason everything is crappy in AZ is because the GOP cuts taxes all the time! Taxes are what find services. You should move to Tucson, it’s much nicer than the hellhole in Phoenix. You aren’t an AZ native because you would know what the real problems are in AZ... and it isn’t undocumented people.

Only a beltway moron would consider low taxes to be a bad thing.

They are bad if you want any quality of life and services. You are the moron. Maybe that's why the coasts are so much better economically.

[Anonymous]

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Only a beltway moron would consider low taxes to be a bad thing.

Only a true moron wherever they live would think really low taxes aren't a bad thing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/tax-trump-kansas/542532/

The regretful Republicans of Kansas have a message for the tax-cutting Republicans of Congress: Don’t follow our lead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

Because originally the Wall was going to be part of a DACA legislation fix. Trump can stick to his guns now because of the caravan, and Kavanaugh. His approval rating is holding steady in the low 40's which is pretty much as good as it ever has been. A few more murders of sweet college co-eds and police officers by illegals and not only will he get his wall, he will have a solid lock on re-election in 2020. Because you see, in polling, people can "disapprove" of Trump, but that doesn't mean the same thing as "I won't vote for him in 2020 under any circumstances." Your front runner Elizabeth Warren is such an idiot (despite being a Harvard Law Professor) she didn't realize claiming to be a mock Cherokee and then attacking Trump for correctly pointing out that she's a liar, wasn't a very good strategy for her. It exposes her as a dope. No one other than a Warren true believer is ever going to vote for her now. What is that--5%? Bernie is a washed up Commie who basically agreed to be HRC's bitch in 2016. HRC will be a catastrophe if she tries to run again. Beto is a drunk driving ethno-phoney just like Warren. You idiots really energized Trump's base with the Kavanaugh nonsense. I myself was going to vote Democrat in the midterms just to send a message as I was getting irritated with Trump's chaotic management style. However the Kavanaugh b.s. swayed me back to vote a straight Republican ticket. The Democrats have elected into office multiple outright anti-Semites which may result in a significant amount of ultra liberal Democrat Jews secretly pulling the lever for Trump in 2020 (and of course never admitting it). Impeaching Trump will accomplish nothing other than opening the door for his team to conduct a very intensive and excruciating investigation of all the misconduct by deep state operators such as Comey and Brennan (and as typified by Reid Hoffman's involvement in the phoney Russian bot false flag operation in the Alabama Senate election.) But go ahead--have a few more antifa and BLM riots, go on a few more Women's Marches with anti-American, anti-semitic, anti-white leadership in place, nominate one of your nut job socialists in 2020 (or HRC) and then get a jumbo size of Kleenex for all the crying you'll be doing on Election Night in 2020.

Clap clap clap clap

Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 9, 2013

+1 What happened to Mexico paying for the wall? Trump needs to keep his promises not cripple the government completely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had control of both houses from Day 1
Why didn’t he start building the wall as soon as he was inaugurated?

BecUse he isn’t a good negotiator. He’s bad at his job. The only thing he got in his first two years was the tax cuts and that was only because Paul Ryan wanted it. He should have negotiated his wall funding into the tax cuts and got it passed in reconciliation if it was really that important to him. He’s bad at his job though so he didn’t do that.

Well you and the rest of the left have miscalculated. You've demonized him so much, that Trump can stay with his position on the Wall now indefinitely. He has absolutely no reason to cave--after all, you've already put him in jail. So, he can just dig in his heels and we'll see who blinks first. Get me the popcorn.

+1.

Frankly, it'd be quite fun if Trump can shut down the federal government for 6 months.

It won’t last past the start of February. Absolutely no chance of it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/12/21/shutdown-looms-as-tax-season-approaches-what-can-taxpayers-expect-from-the-irs/#389a63b96f6e

When a hundred million Americans that depend on their tax refunds to live and the businesses used to people spending tax refunds there not get them, you’re going to see a lot of angry Americans. Most Americans are absolutely dependent on tax refunds and the IRS has said (see link) people that issue tax refunds are non-essential since it’s the IRS’s mission to fund the government and collect taxes. If you don’t thinks a hundred million angry Americans won’t be enough to end this, you’re fooling yourself.

[Anonymous]

Trump's shutdown is going to affect millions.

Anxieties are highest for the 800,000 federal workers furloughed or forced to work without pay. But the fear is spreading far beyond the federal work force, hitting government contractors, local governments forced to cover for furloughed sanitation and maintenance workers and organizations that feed the poor, who are dealing with a possible interruption to sources of funding and provisions.

“So far we have been able to say that the sky isn’t falling yet,” said Joel Berg, chief executive of Hunger Free America, a national advocacy group for nonprofits that manage federal food programs for the poor. “But give it another week or two, or a month.”

Mr. Berg said that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as food stamps, would likely be fine. But other programs — including Women, Infants and Children, or WIC, which provides aid to states — could see supply-chain interruptions if the shutdown drags on.

[Anonymous]

The Schemer Shutdown is going to backfire on the Left.