Confessions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my confession: I'm tired of the holocaust movies that keep coming out. We've seen it from almost every angle now. NOt that I'm a big advocate of genocide movies, but we've only seen one from Rwanda (Hotel Rwanda), one from Cambodia (Killing Fields), and as far as I know, none from Armenia (although the Obama administration doesn't like to admit that one was genocide) and really nothing about Darfur.

Unfortunately, lots of people feel the way you do. Backlashes and fatigue seem to be normal reactions to articulate arguments that get a lot of play. I wish I knew the solution, because I think all the racial injustices discussed in this thread continue to inform current affairs and need to be both present in our minds when we evaluate the... present and also somehow overcome for the sake of moving forward.

Confessor here. Hey, I'm not saying that the holocaust didn't happen or that it isn't important or (horrifically) that bad things like what happened at the musuem today will not continue to happen. This is an anonymous forum where we confess things that we may not be proud of, and I just happen to think that we've played all the cinematic angles we could from this tragedy.

[Anonymous]

The movies and museums are also there to remind people not to repeat history, not only as a tribute to victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The movies and museums are also there to remind people not to repeat history, not only as a tribute to victims.

Gunman, guards exchange fire in Holocaust Museum

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_re_us/us_holocaust_museum_shooting

[Anonymous]

Come on already people! Let's get back to the really fun confessions here! The more outrageous the better. This post is no longer fun to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The movies and museums are also there to remind people not to repeat history, not only as a tribute to victims.

Gunman, guards exchange fire in Holocaust Museum

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_re_us/us_holocaust_museum_shooting

It will be interesting to see what the gunman says his motive was. Most likely, he's such a crackpot that it's hard to find social significance there. But there's a pretty scary and far-reaching backlash to Holocaust education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on already people! Let's get back to the really fun confessions here! The more outrageous the better. This post is no longer fun to read.

See- that's the milder side of fatigue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on already people! Let's get back to the really fun confessions here! The more outrageous the better. This post is no longer fun to read.

I confess I don't agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one ever asks Jewish people to avoid discussing the Holocaust. They shouldn't stop talking about it either. People suffered and died a mere generation ago as they did in the segregated South. Until 1973, two years before my birth, it would have been illegal for me to marry my husband in my home state of Georgia.

Do I think it's professional to delve into this at staff meetings as OP said? No. I would not do that. But the concerns themselves are very valid.

Yes, I think the key lesson about the boss who talks about this is that you can be a jerk and inappropriate and be right. But not right to bring it up at a staff meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one ever asks Jewish people to avoid discussing the Holocaust. They shouldn't stop talking about it either. People suffered and died a mere generation ago as they did in the segregated South. Until 1973, two years before my birth, it would have been illegal for me to marry my husband in my home state of Georgia.

Do I think it's professional to delve into this at staff meetings as OP said? No. I would not do that. But the concerns themselves are very valid.

Today's shooting demonstrates the truth of this statement.

(Although I'll chime in and note that most staff meetings are long and painful enough without a recounting of historic injustices.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the emotional and psychological aspects of racism that are damaging (not just economic ones) and that take generations to change.

so why the latinos got over it so quickly?
they were also damaged by the spanic invasion and I don't see any latino annoying people around saying how bad they are hurt because the europeans killed almost them all and made the rest that survived slaves.
oh, what about native indians all over south, central and north america? do you hear them talking about it? do they have special products for their skin type or hair texture?
do you have magazines directed to these groups?
why is that?
by the way... do you have a theory about the techniques used to cope with trauma in different races?

Are you referring to the Spanish invasion of Mexico that happened in 1519, almost 500 years ago??? If so, then I don't have the same definition of "so quickly" that you do. My father grew up in the south, and my Uncle told me that when they were kids, they would see civil war veterans being wheeled along in veteran's day parades in their small town. That is ONE GENERATION AGO, not 500 years ago. (BTW, I'm white.)

And no, you don't hear native indians talking about the oppression that they still experience to this day. I wish we did hear more about it.

You should read a little more about the history of latin america... europeans didn't invade america only once 5 centuries ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The movies and museums are also there to remind people not to repeat history, not only as a tribute to victims.

Gunman, guards exchange fire in Holocaust Museum

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_re_us/us_holocaust_museum_shooting

It will be interesting to see what the gunman says his motive was. Most likely, he's such a crackpot that it's hard to find social significance there. But there's a pretty scary and far-reaching backlash to Holocaust education.

"CBS reports according to federal sources that the suspect is 89-year-old James Whittaker von Brunn. He appears to be the same von Brunn as the member of the white supremicist group, HolyWesternEmpire.org."

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=87186&catid=158

[Anonymous]

Forgive-but never forget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forgive-but never forget.

Not sure how it helps to forgive, actually, but I agree that present and future need to account for the past without exclusively attending to the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forgive-but never forget.

people that keep looking to the past will never see what future has reserved for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forgive-but never forget.

people that keep looking to the past will never see what future has reserved for them.

People who forget the past will never understand their present or future. There you go... philosophy on a bumper sticker!