Confessions

[Anonymous]

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so why the latinos got over it so quickly?
they were also damaged by the spanic invasion and I don't see any latino annoying people around saying how bad they are hurt because the europeans killed almost them all and made the rest that survived slaves.
oh, what about native indians all over south, central and north america? do you hear them talking about it? do they have special products for their skin type or hair texture?
do you have magazines directed to these groups?
why is that?
by the way... do you have a theory about the techniques used to cope with trauma in different races?

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Ditto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I confess that I have stopped waking DH when he's clearly having a bad dream. This was a service I used to provide, but now I imagine he's stuck in a subconscious Hieronymous Bosch painting as retribution for all the pain and humiliation he has caused me. Maybe some one up there is counting my tears, after all.

But if you don't wake him up, he might not remember it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't those people be more like me?

what else we, descendants of slaves, can ask for?
the law is on our side, the majority of our nation is on our side. everybody knows that prejudice is immoral. science is proving that the differences between races are limited to some physical traits and we know that economic status or education says very little about aperson's personality and character. it's common sense i might say!
just because a few people are still full of prejudice I'll annoy people around me with my pity speech? NO, THANKS.
I can't understand why people still do this?!?!

This post? This is "pity speech."

You don't make any sense at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't those people be more like me?

what else we, descendants of slaves, can ask for?
the law is on our side, the majority of our nation is on our side. everybody knows that prejudice is immoral. science is proving that the differences between races are limited to some physical traits and we know that economic status or education says very little about aperson's personality and character. it's common sense i might say!
just because a few people are still full of prejudice I'll annoy people around me with my pity speech? NO, THANKS.
I can't understand why people still do this?!?!

This post? This is "pity speech."

You don't make any sense at all.

Sorry. I'll type slower. The pity party poster wants us to feel bad for poor her, having to listen to people of color talk about their lives.

you didn't get, did you?
i don't want anybody to feel anything for me. i want people to stop annoying me because of the tragedy that happened in the PAST. acting like we didn't know it or trying to convince us of their misery.
got it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't those people be more like me?

what else we, descendants of slaves, can ask for?
the law is on our side, the majority of our nation is on our side. everybody knows that prejudice is immoral. science is proving that the differences between races are limited to some physical traits and we know that economic status or education says very little about aperson's personality and character. it's common sense i might say!
just because a few people are still full of prejudice I'll annoy people around me with my pity speech? NO, THANKS.
I can't understand why people still do this?!?!

This post? This is "pity speech."

You don't make any sense at all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't those people be more like me?

what else we, descendants of slaves, can ask for?
the law is on our side, the majority of our nation is on our side. everybody knows that prejudice is immoral. science is proving that the differences between races are limited to some physical traits and we know that economic status or education says very little about aperson's personality and character. it's common sense i might say!
just because a few people are still full of prejudice I'll annoy people around me with my pity speech? NO, THANKS.
I can't understand why people still do this?!?!

This post? This is "pity speech."

You don't make any sense at all.

Sorry. I'll type slower. The pity party poster wants us to feel bad for poor her, having to listen to people of color talk about their lives.

you didn't get, did you?
i don't want anybody to feel anything for me. i want people to stop annoying me because of the tragedy that happened in the PAST. acting like we didn't know it or trying to convince us of their misery.
got it?

I'm laughing out loud now... where did that one come from?
Who in this world has so many "denominations" for their race, skin color, ancestry or whatever makes us who we are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the emotional and psychological aspects of racism that are damaging (not just economic ones) and that take generations to change.

so why the latinos got over it so quickly?
they were also damaged by the spanic invasion and I don't see any latino annoying people around saying how bad they are hurt because the europeans killed almost them all and made the rest that survived slaves.
oh, what about native indians all over south, central and north america? do you hear them talking about it? do they have special products for their skin type or hair texture?
do you have magazines directed to these groups?
why is that?
by the way... do you have a theory about the techniques used to cope with trauma in different races?

Are you referring to the Spanish invasion of Mexico that happened in 1519, almost 500 years ago??? If so, then I don't have the same definition of "so quickly" that you do. My father grew up in the south, and my Uncle told me that when they were kids, they would see civil war veterans being wheeled along in veteran's day parades in their small town. That is ONE GENERATION AGO, not 500 years ago. (BTW, I'm white.)

And no, you don't hear native indians talking about the oppression that they still experience to this day. I wish we did hear more about it.

[Anonymous]

No one ever asks Jewish people to avoid discussing the Holocaust. They shouldn't stop talking about it either. People suffered and died a mere generation ago as they did in the segregated South. Until 1973, two years before my birth, it would have been illegal for me to marry my husband in my home state of Georgia.

Do I think it's professional to delve into this at staff meetings as OP said? No. I would not do that. But the concerns themselves are very valid.

[Anonymous]

Here's my confession: I'm tired of the holocaust movies that keep coming out. We've seen it from almost every angle now. NOt that I'm a big advocate of genocide movies, but we've only seen one from Rwanda (Hotel Rwanda), one from Cambodia (Killing Fields), and as far as I know, none from Armenia (although the Obama administration doesn't like to admit that one was genocide) and really nothing about Darfur.

[Anonymous]

I can go with you on that. Let's hold a march for Greater Diversity of Suffering Reflected in Cinema.

[Anonymous]

I confess that I hope that I never meet some of you hateful, hateful people.


And I wish this thread would go away. It went from tongue in cheek laughing at ourselves to true ugliness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my confession: I'm tired of the holocaust movies that keep coming out. We've seen it from almost every angle now. NOt that I'm a big advocate of genocide movies, but we've only seen one from Rwanda (Hotel Rwanda), one from Cambodia (Killing Fields), and as far as I know, none from Armenia (although the Obama administration doesn't like to admit that one was genocide) and really nothing about Darfur.

Unfortunately, lots of people feel the way you do. Backlashes and fatigue seem to be normal reactions to articulate arguments that get a lot of play. I wish I knew the solution, because I think all the racial injustices discussed in this thread continue to inform current affairs and need to be both present in our minds when we evaluate the... present and also somehow overcome for the sake of moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my confession: I'm tired of the holocaust movies that keep coming out. We've seen it from almost every angle now. NOt that I'm a big advocate of genocide movies, but we've only seen one from Rwanda (Hotel Rwanda), one from Cambodia (Killing Fields), and as far as I know, none from Armenia (although the Obama administration doesn't like to admit that one was genocide) and really nothing about Darfur.

Maybe if we wait long enough, all those who experienced it first hand will be dead and then it wouldn't have really happened, right? It is only a matter of time now... hell, it was in the early 1900's that it took place, ancient history. The last surviving member of our family to have survived the genocide passed away 3 years ago at 98 year old so if we wait a little longer, it will all just go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my confession: I'm tired of the holocaust movies that keep coming out. We've seen it from almost every angle now. NOt that I'm a big advocate of genocide movies, but we've only seen one from Rwanda (Hotel Rwanda), one from Cambodia (Killing Fields), and as far as I know, none from Armenia (although the Obama administration doesn't like to admit that one was genocide) and really nothing about Darfur.

Maybe if we wait long enough, all those who experienced it first hand will be dead and then it wouldn't have really happened, right? It is only a matter of time now... hell, it was in the early 1900's that it took place, ancient history. The last surviving member of our family to have survived the genocide passed away 3 years ago at 98 year old so if we wait a little longer, it will all just go away.

It will be difficult to ignore once the Armenian Genocide Museum and Memorial opens at 14th and G.

[Anonymous]

13:29 here. Shame on anyone who wants all these bad memories to go away or is tired of hearing about them. Still, it is a common response. The people who have a message to deliver about atrocities also need to be aware that the public is briefly interested and prepared to be outraged for a while, but gets fatigued quickly. That's how these things are permitted to happen in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Same poster saying I've seen an interesting movie about the Armenian Genocide. Let's see... it's told in flashbacks, I think. Something about a famous author and her son the photographer rediscovering their family's past... ring any bells?

[Anonymous]

Yes, there is finally some attention around the Armenian genocide, but I wouldn't call it scalable.