GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

This thread is a dumpster fire. Lots of people making wild accusations and assumptions with effectively no evidence or information.

This thread is necessary.

Two things can be true at the same time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow.

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

Yes. Once you’ve lost the DCUM narrative, it’s over. 55 pages of angry GDS parents on here is not a good look. Especially just weeks before enrollment decisions for newly admitted students will be made.

Lmao. 55 pages of probably a dozen people going back-and-forth at each other. It cracks me up that you think the narrative here is somehow the real world. This is an anonymous chat board. And mark my words, GDS will have no problem filling their school next year.

Regardless, this is not a good look for GDS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

This thread is a dumpster fire. Lots of people making wild accusations and assumptions with effectively no evidence or information.

This thread is necessary.

Not really. If it’s deleted or blocked nothing will happen.

[Anonymous]

https://stopsexualassaultinschools.org/#allies

[Anonymous]

If I read this thread too quickly, I might think that some Cosmic Ping Pong-types were looking for a new outlet for their creativity.

[Anonymous]

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://stopsexualassaultinschools.org/#allies

This school is truly disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Genuinely, what could they have done differently? The assault was not reported for 3 months and the victim could not ID the students that did this to him, and I would assume the security footage if there was cameras would not have been saved for three months. The schools can't interrogate all the middle school boys, I woul assume there would be a civil right violation in doing so and probably false confessions or accusations etc. if they did as students just would want to get out of that situation. The whole thing is obviously terrible, but I really do not know what the school or MPD could have done with literally no information.

[Anonymous]

But don't you understand that it's none of your business? You have no idea what they did or didn't do and they certainly don't owe you anything that the family is not comfortable with. You gut is utterly irrelevant nor is your overall indictment of MPD, whether based on fact or fiction.

I tell you what...pick up the phone, call MPD, tell them that based on 59 pages of anonymous posts on a message board that you'd decided to hold them accountable. Then, based on your extensive investigative skills, please tell them your theory of the case. And while you're at it, see if maybe you can help with Nancy Guthrie as well.

We, in the public, have only the information that the family has chosen to share, just as it should be. Based on their email, we know that MPD determined that there was nothing actionable that would allow them to take steps toward identifying a perpetrator. This could be because several months passed. This could be because the child had no idea who might have attacked him and could not describe it. And it could be because it never happened.

Wanting to support the alleged victim (and all alleged victims) is laudable but not sufficient under our legal system if there is simply nothing to substantiate his claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Genuinely, what could they have done differently? The assault was not reported for 3 months and the victim could not ID the students that did this to him, and I would assume the security footage if there was cameras would not have been saved for three months. The schools can't interrogate all the middle school boys, I woul assume there would be a civil right violation in doing so and probably false confessions or accusations etc. if they did as students just would want to get out of that situation. The whole thing is obviously terrible, but I really do not know what the school or MPD could have done with literally no information.

Let me just repeat how odd it is that everyone seems to think the alleged assailants were students despite the fact that the child reported that they concealed their identities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But don't you understand that it's none of your business? You have no idea what they did or didn't do and they certainly don't owe you anything that the family is not comfortable with. You gut is utterly irrelevant nor is your overall indictment of MPD, whether based on fact or fiction.

I tell you what...pick up the phone, call MPD, tell them that based on 59 pages of anonymous posts on a message board that you'd decided to hold them accountable. Then, based on your extensive investigative skills, please tell them your theory of the case. And while you're at it, see if maybe you can help with Nancy Guthrie as well.

We, in the public, have only the information that the family has chosen to share, just as it should be. Based on their email, we know that MPD determined that there was nothing actionable that would allow them to take steps toward identifying a perpetrator. This could be because several months passed. This could be because the child had no idea who might have attacked him and could not describe it. And it could be because it never happened.

Wanting to support the alleged victim (and all alleged victims) is laudable but not sufficient under our legal system if there is simply nothing to substantiate his claims.

Can we please, please, please make this the end of the thread. I can't imagine there is anything else to say after this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Yea, this is a overburdened department. Most of the patrol division is going from call to call to call with little downtime in between. They're not going to take any action unless it's handed to them on a silver platter.

[Anonymous]

Is GDS leadership going to keep hiding or are they going to address this is an honest way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can this thread just end.

Because it makes the school look bad??