GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Yea, this is an overburdened department. Most of the patrol division is going from call to call to call with little downtime in between. They're not going to take any action unless it's handed to them on a silver platter.

This is correct and how the MPD operate. It isn’t like they have the time to investigate anything unless forced to by pressure from national news or something high profile. There are no resources for regular operations and they move onto the next case as soon as possible.


They take a statement, file the paperwork, and with no clear leads they move onto the next case immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is GDS leadership going to keep hiding or are they going to address this is an honest way?

+1 the issue here is how GDS leadership have responded to the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can this thread just end.

Because it makes the school look bad??

+1

[Anonymous]

Honestly, if you have a kid at GDS and feel the school‘s response was inadequate, pull your kid out. There are several kids who would be happy to take your child’s space. If you don’t have a kid at GDS, I’m not sure why you care so much about how the school responds to a particular issue. I have multiple kids at the school and while I think the school could I’ve been more transparent in their handling the issue, ultimately I know enough about the situation to feel completely confident that the investigation done was sufficient and kids are not at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Genuinely, what could they have done differently? The assault was not reported for 3 months and the victim could not ID the students that did this to him, and I would assume the security footage if there was cameras would not have been saved for three months. The schools can't interrogate all the middle school boys, I woul assume there would be a civil right violation in doing so and probably false confessions or accusations etc. if they did as students just would want to get out of that situation. The whole thing is obviously terrible, but I really do not know what the school or MPD could have done with literally no information.

Let me just repeat how odd it is that everyone seems to think the alleged assailants were students despite the fact that the child reported that they concealed their identities.

I am reasonably certain that the parents email said they were students but I am not going to dig through this thread to find said information. If the child said that they might not have been students, then the school should be able to check the school log of visitors and find out who was on campus at the time of the incident. Otherwise, you are thinking that teachers or staff on campus did this. Again, you are talking 2 people, not 1, so this was coordinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Yea, this is an overburdened department. Most of the patrol division is going from call to call to call with little downtime in between. They're not going to take any action unless it's handed to them on a silver platter.

This is correct and how the MPD operate. It isn’t like they have the time to investigate anything unless forced to by pressure from national news or something high profile. There are no resources for regular operations and they move onto the next case as soon as possible.


They take a statement, file the paperwork, and with no clear leads they move onto the next case immediately.

Again, tell us how you would approach this investigation.

An 11 year old child tells his parents about an assault that took place in November in January, no specific dates given so any where from 9 weeks, assuming the assault happened in the first week of November and the boy told his parents in the first week of January, to 13 weeks, assuming the assault happened in the first week of November and was reported to the parents at the end of January. The police report was submitted on 23 January. The family told the school in February.

What do the Police do? The child cannot identify his attackers. I would assume that the Police asked if the child's clothing from that day had been left untouched and that the answer would be no. I doubt the kid hid away his school uniform so it wasn't washed. Any physical evidence on the child would have healed and been washed away. I would assume that they visited the school and looked for security cameras and asked for any video that they had from that location of the school if it existed. I would hope that they asked the school for their log book of visitors, I am assuming that GDS requires visitors sign in and out of the school, so they could look at those individuals who might have been visiting the school on that day.

You seem to be assuming that the Police came, took the child's statement and did not ask about clothes, video footage, and other potential evidence and hence did a lousy job investigating. If they did all of the above, what else do you expect them to do? Unless the child remembers something to help find the individuals or someone ends up sharing information, there is not much to investigate. And if no one had heard something and didn't report it before or after the family email and all this outrage, it is not likely to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can this thread just end.

Because it makes the school look bad??

No, it should end because everything that can be said has been said, repeatedly across 60 pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can this thread just end.

Because it makes the school look bad??

No, it should end because everything that can be said has been said, repeatedly across 60 pages.

I hope they keep saying it until the school takes action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can this thread just end.

Because it makes the school look bad??

No, it should end because everything that can be said has been said, repeatedly across 60 pages.

I hope they keep saying it until the school takes action.

Dream on. The schools don’t operate through this anonymous chat board. At any moment there’s probably a dozen people who have an interest in this thread that are checking it and commenting for a couple of days and then they disappear. By the time deposits are due for the next school year this thread will be buried on page 7.

[Anonymous]

I would love some of the "GDS is the moral equivalent of Pam Bondi" posters to very specifically identify what they think the school should do. What should they have reported, should the family have been allowed to veto any communications, should random kids have been expelled? Like, what should have happened as specifically as possible.

The parents called the cops. The cops investigated and concluded that there was no evidence. It means one of two things:

1. The alleged victim was traumatized but in the period of time between the incident and his reporting of it, any evidence disappeared. This was combined with his inability to identify characteristics of his attackers other than that they were masked/obstructed and altered their voice.

Or

2. The event was fabricated.

In either case, I'm not quite sure what the school should have done differently, recognizing that feeding the online yentas is not actually an institutional responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if you have a kid at GDS and feel the school‘s response was inadequate, pull your kid out. There are several kids who would be happy to take your child’s space. If you don’t have a kid at GDS, I’m not sure why you care so much about how the school responds to a particular issue. I have multiple kids at the school and while I think the school could I’ve been more transparent in their handling the issue, ultimately I know enough about the situation to feel completely confident that the investigation done was sufficient and kids are not at risk.

This is already in the works with several families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if you have a kid at GDS and feel the school‘s response was inadequate, pull your kid out. There are several kids who would be happy to take your child’s space. If you don’t have a kid at GDS, I’m not sure why you care so much about how the school responds to a particular issue. I have multiple kids at the school and while I think the school could I’ve been more transparent in their handling the issue, ultimately I know enough about the situation to feel completely confident that the investigation done was sufficient and kids are not at risk.

This is already in the works with several families

Good!

[Anonymous]

Many people have posted the specific things that GDS should have done differently. Stop asking for it. There is a long list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people have posted the specific things that GDS should have done differently. Stop asking for it. There is a long list.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have ideas on how to question, complain about MPD and or hold MPD accountable? It is in the victim's interest as well as the publics' interest to know what measures they took to root out the criminals. Protect the victim at all costs and allow the public to actually have confidence they actually did an investigation instead just saying they did. Right now I have no confidence in anything MPD did and GDS is connivingly using that as an opportunity to defect and bury things.  This is how grownups in charge fail children and it's unforgivable, both of these groups.

My gut tells them there is something foul going on here. It feels like a rigged sports game where fouls are deliberately not called in order to have the predetermined team win.
This affects not only the victim but others going there. It's in the public interest that MPD show someone other than themselves what they did to work this case.

I have never found MPD reliable and found them unmotivated to solve crimes even when  everything was right in front of them. I found it even more hopeless when trying to hold anyone at MPD accountable. It really feels like they get to do whatever they feel like with no higher authority to check them. They are famous for stonewalling and evading themselves.

Does anyone have avenues for dealing with MPD? to question them?   What would an actionable process look like that can help the victim and the students at GDS who are pretty much sitting ducks. I and a lot of others don't have any confidence in what MPD did to solve this case because of what I saw or lack thereof and the fact that they provide zero details on anything other than self grading themselves.

Genuinely, what could they have done differently? The assault was not reported for 3 months and the victim could not ID the students that did this to him, and I would assume the security footage if there was cameras would not have been saved for three months. The schools can't interrogate all the middle school boys, I woul assume there would be a civil right violation in doing so and probably false confessions or accusations etc. if they did as students just would want to get out of that situation. The whole thing is obviously terrible, but I really do not know what the school or MPD could have done with literally no information.

Let me just repeat how odd it is that everyone seems to think the alleged assailants were students despite the fact that the child reported that they concealed their identities.

It's implicit in the email that the parents sent.