GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

[Anonymous]

MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow.

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

[Anonymous]

Not surprised by the behavior of the school. It’s similar to their pitch on inclusion, might be right just in paper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow.

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

Yes. Once you’ve lost the DCUM narrative, it’s over. 55 pages of angry GDS parents on here is not a good look. Especially just weeks before enrollment decisions for newly admitted students will be made.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the police just come out publicly with the result of their investigation? That would go a long way in tamping down the crazies on this thread.

The victim's family would have access to the police report. Because there are minors involved, the general public would not have access to this report unless they file a petition to access the records.
Unfortunately there are a few posters on this thread who perhaps believe they are helping the victim's family by denouncing the school and Russell, but do not seem to realize that they come off as unhinged and irrational. Sadly, they are doing the opposite of helping.
The victim's family has retained counsel, according to their letter, and we can only assume that counsel is providing guidance and information to the family about what they have access to legally. There is a lot of misinformation about the legal process on this thread. I wish the family well.

The police don’t need to release the police report in order to publicly announce the results of their investigation though. Doing that would tamp down on a lot of the conspiracy theories here I’d assume.

The police gave a statement that is contained in the newspaper report linked in this thread.

The police statement said that the allegation was credible but that they had no credible leads to investigate.

Which then created this circular mess.

Where did you find the MPD statement that the allegation was credible? The only quote from the MPD about the allegation that I’ve found publicly (the student newspaper) said:

“Following an exhaustive investigation by MPD detectives,” an MPD spokesperson wrote to the Bit, “this case has been closed due to the absence of credible leads.” The spokesperson did not specify when the department closed the case. “The case would be reopened should new, credible evidence be presented to MPD,” the spokesperson wrote”

So MPD expects evidence to BE PRESENTED to them. What. I think the police is a big part of the problem. They expect someone else to do the work and give them the evidence. Is that how sloppy DC Police works. So no proactive actual police detective work where you hunt for evidence? No effort to retrieve video data from a camera that could unlock things. Just expect whatever GDS says

No, MPD investigated based on the child's information, which was that two boys raped him in the bathroom at a specific time. He couldn’t identify the boys because their faces were covered and they changed their voices. This happened in November and it was reported in December. What exactly do you expect the Police to do? They probably asked for physical evidence, but there not be any marks on the child and I would guess the clothes he was wearing had been washed multiple times. The bathroom would have been cleaned. What makes you think they didn’t ask if there was videotape footage of that specific location from that specific day that they could review? Again, the report was weeks after the event, more likely then not any video from that day had been overwritten.

Do you think the Police should have interviewed every child taller then the victim? And what would they ask? Did you rape an 11 year old on this date or know someone else who did? Has anyone in your class discussed raping another kid? Has anyone in your class hazed another kid?

Or do you really think the Police took the kids testimony and said “OK, we are done.”

If MPD didn’t do this, it’s straight up incompetence. If GDS then didn’t do it on their own, it’s downright criminal.

You cannot ethically or legally ask a bunch of minors if they've raped other children. Dear god.

What law does this violate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow. [/b]

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

Link to public statements by MPD that they found this person credible? Or is this another “is was in the parents’ email” thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the police just come out publicly with the result of their investigation? That would go a long way in tamping down the crazies on this thread.

The victim's family would have access to the police report. Because there are minors involved, the general public would not have access to this report unless they file a petition to access the records.
Unfortunately there are a few posters on this thread who perhaps believe they are helping the victim's family by denouncing the school and Russell, but do not seem to realize that they come off as unhinged and irrational. Sadly, they are doing the opposite of helping.
The victim's family has retained counsel, according to their letter, and we can only assume that counsel is providing guidance and information to the family about what they have access to legally. There is a lot of misinformation about the legal process on this thread. I wish the family well.

The police don’t need to release the police report in order to publicly announce the results of their investigation though. Doing that would tamp down on a lot of the conspiracy theories here I’d assume.

The police gave a statement that is contained in the newspaper report linked in this thread.

The police statement said that the allegation was credible but that they had no credible leads to investigate.

Which then created this circular mess.

Where did you find the MPD statement that the allegation was credible? The only quote from the MPD about the allegation that I’ve found publicly (the student newspaper) said:

“Following an exhaustive investigation by MPD detectives,” an MPD spokesperson wrote to the Bit, “this case has been closed due to the absence of credible leads.” The spokesperson did not specify when the department closed the case. “The case would be reopened should new, credible evidence be presented to MPD,” the spokesperson wrote”

So MPD expects evidence to BE PRESENTED to them. What. I think the police is a big part of the problem. They expect someone else to do the work and give them the evidence. Is that how sloppy DC Police works. So no proactive actual police detective work where you hunt for evidence? No effort to retrieve video data from a camera that could unlock things. Just expect whatever GDS says

No, MPD investigated based on the child's information, which was that two boys raped him in the bathroom at a specific time. He couldn’t identify the boys because their faces were covered and they changed their voices. This happened in November and it was reported in December. What exactly do you expect the Police to do? They probably asked for physical evidence, but there not be any marks on the child and I would guess the clothes he was wearing had been washed multiple times. The bathroom would have been cleaned. What makes you think they didn’t ask if there was videotape footage of that specific location from that specific day that they could review? Again, the report was weeks after the event, more likely then not any video from that day had been overwritten.

Do you think the Police should have interviewed every child taller then the victim? And what would they ask? Did you rape an 11 year old on this date or know someone else who did? Has anyone in your class discussed raping another kid? Has anyone in your class hazed another kid?

Or do you really think the Police took the kids testimony and said “OK, we are done.”

If MPD didn’t do this, it’s straight up incompetence. If GDS then didn’t do it on their own, it’s downright criminal.

You cannot ethically or legally ask a bunch of minors if they've raped other children. Dear god.

What law does this violate?

Look it up - youth interrogations. There are so many laws governing the interrogation of children because they are *children*. Rounding up kids and asking them if they've committed a crime without access to legal counsel present is a clear violation of due process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow. [/b]

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

Link to public statements by MPD that they found this person credible? Or is this another “is was in the parents’ email” thing?

It is a “was in the parents email thing.”

[Anonymous]

I am learning a lot from the sophisticated arguments in this thread. Very convincing, specially given the fact that the people that are posting are clueless about the findings in the reports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

This thread is a dumpster fire. Lots of people making wild accusations and assumptions with effectively no evidence or information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow.

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

What evidence do you have that the school doesn't discuss consent with students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

This thread is a dumpster fire. Lots of people making wild accusations and assumptions with effectively no evidence or information.

This thread is necessary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the police just come out publicly with the result of their investigation? That would go a long way in tamping down the crazies on this thread.

The victim's family would have access to the police report. Because there are minors involved, the general public would not have access to this report unless they file a petition to access the records.
Unfortunately there are a few posters on this thread who perhaps believe they are helping the victim's family by denouncing the school and Russell, but do not seem to realize that they come off as unhinged and irrational. Sadly, they are doing the opposite of helping.
The victim's family has retained counsel, according to their letter, and we can only assume that counsel is providing guidance and information to the family about what they have access to legally. There is a lot of misinformation about the legal process on this thread. I wish the family well.

The police don’t need to release the police report in order to publicly announce the results of their investigation though. Doing that would tamp down on a lot of the conspiracy theories here I’d assume.

The police gave a statement that is contained in the newspaper report linked in this thread.

The police statement said that the allegation was credible but that they had no credible leads to investigate.

Which then created this circular mess.

Where did you find the MPD statement that the allegation was credible? The only quote from the MPD about the allegation that I’ve found publicly (the student newspaper) said:

“Following an exhaustive investigation by MPD detectives,” an MPD spokesperson wrote to the Bit, “this case has been closed due to the absence of credible leads.” The spokesperson did not specify when the department closed the case. “The case would be reopened should new, credible evidence be presented to MPD,” the spokesperson wrote”

So MPD expects evidence to BE PRESENTED to them. What. I think the police is a big part of the problem. They expect someone else to do the work and give them the evidence. Is that how sloppy DC Police works. So no proactive actual police detective work where you hunt for evidence? No effort to retrieve video data from a camera that could unlock things. Just expect whatever GDS says

No, MPD investigated based on the child's information, which was that two boys raped him in the bathroom at a specific time. He couldn’t identify the boys because their faces were covered and they changed their voices. This happened in November and it was reported in December. What exactly do you expect the Police to do? They probably asked for physical evidence, but there not be any marks on the child and I would guess the clothes he was wearing had been washed multiple times. The bathroom would have been cleaned. What makes you think they didn’t ask if there was videotape footage of that specific location from that specific day that they could review? Again, the report was weeks after the event, more likely then not any video from that day had been overwritten.

Do you think the Police should have interviewed every child taller then the victim? And what would they ask? Did you rape an 11 year old on this date or know someone else who did? Has anyone in your class discussed raping another kid? Has anyone in your class hazed another kid?

Or do you really think the Police took the kids testimony and said “OK, we are done.”

If MPD didn’t do this, it’s straight up incompetence. If GDS then didn’t do it on their own, it’s downright criminal.

You cannot ethically or legally ask a bunch of minors if they've raped other children. Dear god.

What law does this violate?

Look it up - youth interrogations. There are so many laws governing the interrogation of children because they are *children*. Rounding up kids and asking them if they've committed a crime without access to legal counsel present is a clear violation of due process.

No, no. You don’t get to backtrack. You said “you can’t legally interrogate a group of kids.” That’s patently false, as demonstrated by your inability to specify what laws would be violated by investigators asking kids questions. You didn’t say “there are laws governing youth interrogations” or “you can interrogate kids but only in a manner consistent with their constitutional rights”. You said you can’t do it. But you can. So stop being a gds apologist and gaslighting people here by portraying the school and MPD as having done everything legally possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police had nothing to do with the tenor of emails from HOS.

The GDS response is concerning. No process excuse is sufficient to hide behind. Smearing the child and stonewalling the family is unacceptable. Not putting the community on notice that an assault was reported and being transparent about safety protocols being changed breached trust with the entire community. Not addressing consent with students beginning in the relevant grades when they direct other schools to do so in an annual conference is frankly astonishing.

Dumpster fire is the best way to describe it.

This thread is a dumpster fire. Lots of people making wild accusations and assumptions with effectively no evidence or information.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MPD could both find the child credible and not have credible leads to follow.

GDS could have alerted the community and outlined the steps taken to enhance safety. They could have brought the consent culture training forward for students so it’s not siloed to a conference and promoted to other schools but GDS students. They could have treated the victim with respect in communications. They could have provided the family with a redacted copy of the report without them needing to hire counsel.

In short they could have acted with integrity and decency re: the things completely in their control. Was it ever likely that the assailants would be identified? Not really. The story is now about the behavior of the school however.

Yes. Once you’ve lost the DCUM narrative, it’s over. 55 pages of angry GDS parents on here is not a good look. Especially just weeks before enrollment decisions for newly admitted students will be made.

Lmao. 55 pages of probably a dozen people going back-and-forth at each other. It cracks me up that you think the narrative here is somehow the real world. This is an anonymous chat board. And mark my words, GDS will have no problem filling their school next year.