
Since Hamas supporters above are doubting the atrocities committed by Palestinians today, here is a collection of videos which have been proudly circulated by Palestinians themselves. I’m not going to embed the link because it’s horrifying. You can click if you want, but be warned. And these aren’t the worst, which have been removed from Twitter because of how bad they are.
https://x.com/marinamedvin/status/1710614546610540966 |
Does the PM Mahmoud Abbas or West Bank even do anything in these fights? |
Hamas isn’t even liked by majority of Palestinians in the West Bank or in the diaspora. There are relatives of Hamas members who live in the West Bank and denounce Hamas completely. There’s an ideological divide between Palestinians who want a soft war against the Israelis via media and PR , and the hardliners who want actual fire and brimstone upon Israel. I feel bad for the innocent kids. I also find it horrible how all the top Hamas leaders make sure their families/kids don’t live in Gaza. They live comfortably in Qatar or elsewhere safe from the disaster. How convenient . |
We will have to wait for the investigation, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that IDF units were pulled away from Gaza over the past weeks and months to deal with the emerging shitstorm in the West Bank. Wildcat settlers have been empowered by figures in the government like Bezalel Smotrich who have designs on annexing the entire area. Playing whack-a-mole with the wildcat settlements and other provocations - like the 200 ultra-Orthodox who stormed Al-Aqsa a few days ago - has been keeping the IDF more than busy. The IDF is no small force, but still can’t be everywhere at once. |
Green killed himself so that’s not really possible. But consider Eddie Gallagher. He posed for a picture with a teenager he had stabbed to death and then sent the picture to his buddies as a trophy. SEALs he had served with described other barbaric acts he committed, including randomly shooting and killing an elderly man and a young girl among others and then threatening to kill other service members who reported these incidents. After his court martial, he was fully pardoned by Trump and allowed to retire with full Navy honors. You may have been living under a rock at the time of his pardon, but he was very much embraced by Trump’s acolytes. He now apparently runs several successful businesses. |
She’s probably a stoned SJP affiliated undergrad from GW, GMU, or AU. |
Grow up Do you have any idea what the repercussions would be in a volatile place like the middle east? Why not just learn to get along |
I think this will be found to be correct. Netanyahu empowering radical West Bank settlers has been a disaster. But I think it will soon be forgotten as larger events overtake Bibi's domestic power plays. This will turn out to be the equivalent of Israel's 9/11. There are still hundreds of Israelis missing. Reserves are being called up from everywhere. Israel has chartered planes to bring back reservists from Greece, the US, the UK, Germany, and elsewhere It doesn't help that Hezbollah began shelling Israeli positions in the north near the Lebanese border. Hopefully that was a skirmish and they stay out. But a two front war with Iran's proxy army is something Israel needs to be prepared for. And at this point, Hezbollah is probably the most experienced major fighting force in the region. They've been fighting in Syria for the past ten years. Hamas has unleashed something that could easily spin out of control. I do not envy anyone in the region right now. |
The AP has some polling about this. 45 percent of Palestinians support Hamas. However, most its support is concentrated in Gaza. West Bank Palestinians are not as enthusiastic about Hamas. It's been 15 years since there have been elections, but the last time there were elections Hamas won comfortably in Gaza. The West Bank went with Fatah instead. A choose your poison election. But it would be wrong to suggest that Hamas does not enjoy popular support in Gaza. It does. |
Take 5 minutes to read this. It’s a good analysis and might actually bring some
much needed perspective into this vacuous discussion. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/opinion/israel-hamas-attack-friedman.html |
Sure, most of the army was pulled away from the uncontrolled area with the militants and the rockets to defend against stone throwing teens in the West Bank. |
I think it’s a right wing patriotic fervor. Hamas is the first Palestinian army . They only had kids throwing stones at soldiers until fairly recently and I think in the West Bank that’s still all they have. Then there was the failed intifadas and bus suicide bombings. Hamas changed that all up and created literal tunnels and bought and sometimes created rockets themselves underground somehow all with the international condemnation of the world and dismay from half of their population. Something Yasser Arafat couldn’t even do with international support and unanimous love and support among the majority of Palestinians . |
They have the backing of Iran. Make no mistake, Iran is deeply involved here. |
Cori Bush-D Missouri: "immediate ceasefire and de-escalation" "...do our part to stop this violence and trauma by ending U.S. government support for Israeli military occupation and apartheid." Her statement tracks with the first official response from the US government by the US Office for Palestinian Affairs, which called on Israelis to “refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks.” That got deleted. NBC's Lester Holt interviewed the President of Iran https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iranian-president-says-tehran-will-spend-6-billion-released-prisoner-e-rcna104475 Iran will spend the money how it wants and US thinks "“It’s going to be held in a bank in Qatar and each transaction will be monitored by U.S. Treasury — transaction by transaction," the official said. "It’s for humanitarian aid only.” Transcript https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/full-transcript-read-lester-holts-interview-iranian-president-ebrahim-rcna104913 If I give $1000 to a relative to make rent because they have a gambling problem....debits and credits. |
Another day, another bombardment of ambulances and hospitals in Gaza from the civilized side. |