I grow 40% of our own food and can and preserve so that it will last through some of the winter. We do have some packaged foods, but I will bake a loaf of bread or a sweet once a week for the kids too. I have chickens so we eat a lot of eggs I'm many different ways. I am not perfect but we do not permit fast food, hardly eat out and I allow gum for breath freshening or anxiety chews but not candy. We are of larger stock so overweight but not obese according to BMI. By we I mean my husband and I. Our children are average and a little below average. |
I’ve been in France the past few weeks visiting my spouse’s family and would like to point out that French people do not go to fancy restaurants that specialize in elaborate sauces every day, or even very often. Most people are very health conscious, and that means eating 2-3 real meals per day, mostly prepared at home with quality ingredients. Every meal includes vegetables.
I’ve been eating all I want, drinking a little wine every single day, and have not worked out once in three weeks, except for walking around town. I’ve lost 5lbs. There’s something wrong with American culture around eating/ exercising (in that it has to be feast or famine, literally) and also I really think that American processed food (bread, pasta, crackers) somehow are worse. Perhaps all the enrichment. |
It always comes back to moral failure, doesn’t it? This is so offensive. I think it likely a combination of ultra-processed food and trauma/depression. This country has lost its social safety net. People don’t have the community anymore and likely self-medicate with food. I read that something like 60-70% of Americans gained 30 lbs or more during the pandemic. |
But many Americans are picking the ultra processed foods. Intentionally picking them, over plentiful options of foods better for them. |
What's your point, little house on the prairie or a mansion in the suburbs that has acrege to grow their own food? Should we all move to a farm and can our own food? Guess what I grew up like that, but life doesn't afford me an orchard right now! |
Except for walking around town... LOL Why are people blind to the benefits of walking? |
Well then I guess your only option is to be fat. It is not an either/or. People can make healthy choices. I know how often in the evenings I am not hungry for the bounty of fruits and vegetables in my refrigerator. I want chips or ice cream and get to choose for myself. |
American towns and even small towns are built for cars. That's one big difference to Europe. Furthermore in America it's social suicide to work PT, both parents are expected to work FT, otherwise you're lazy. So nobody has time to prepare meals; in Europe it's more acceptable for parents but also for people without kids working PT. I don't think Americans have less self-discipline than people in other parts of the world, they just live in a very unhealthy enivronment. |
BS. It was fresh salsa. It didn’t need sugar as a preservative. |
LOL! Like I am the clueless one, where you spotted that you grow your own food and bake and have chickens...BTW, I am skinny. That doesn't make me detached from the reality of life for the working poor... and their food options. It only makes you a clueless douche bag. |
In addition, many European countries have shorter work weeks and more generous vacation time. I raised this point several pages back, but even the shift from 9-5 work days to 9-5:30 with unpaid lunch or 9-6 if you take an hour for lunch cuts into time for cooking and physical activity. Pile communities that aren't walkable and which are designed in a way that increases traffic as time goes on, the window for shopping for and cooking healthy food continues to narrow. |
I'm not the PP. I am working poor. Sensible food choices and wake up before my children so I have time to work out. Not difficult. |
Because they don’t cook. Give me convenience or give me death. |
Well exactly, but making that choice and in turn contributing to your own obesity is a failing- I don’t know if I would say “moral” failing, but it isn’t a positive characteristic to have. |
I don't have time to grow my own food.
And unless I put extraordinary effort into cooking 3 healthy meals from scratch, my family will have junk, as most of what's sold in the stores and served in restaurants. It's like a war. |