Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.


Every grocery store offers plain yogurt. Flavored yogurt has added sugar, hence the flavor. If you want plain yogurt with fruit, then put your own fruit in it. It isn’t complicated or tricky. I eat a flavored Chobani or icelandic daily. They have 8-10gm sugar. It is a snack that hits the sweet spot. I think this is a reasonable amount of sugar and totally fine with it. But then again, I don’t eat store bought cookies, cake, ice cream, etc. ever. Only homemade on rare occasion.
Anonymous
Icelandic yogurt tastes like crap to people used to more Greek yogurt taste.
And it is pretty hard, 300 yogurts full of sugar, barely 3 kinds of plain yogurt, and one of them has added sugar, most likely.
It is like some of you have never been in a proper grocery store, WF and TJ ain't it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.

Amount of added sugar is zero for the products that shouldn't have it per common sense of any reasonable adult. That would include bread, lunch meat, plain yogurt, fresh salsa, canned veggies, some condiments (it is expected to see sugar in lets say, bbq sauce).
Other products are fair game.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.

Amount of added sugar is zero for the products that shouldn't have it per common sense of any reasonable adult. That would include bread, lunch meat, plain yogurt, fresh salsa, canned veggies, some condiments (it is expected to see sugar in lets say, bbq sauce).
Other products are fair game.


If I’m buying sweet peach yogurt- I expect it will have sugar. Foods that taste sweet have sugar. That is how it works. This isn’t hard
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.

Amount of added sugar is zero for the products that shouldn't have it per common sense of any reasonable adult. That would include bread, lunch meat, plain yogurt, fresh salsa, canned veggies, some condiments (it is expected to see sugar in lets say, bbq sauce).
Other products are fair game.


If I’m buying sweet peach yogurt- I expect it will have sugar. Foods that taste sweet have sugar. That is how it works. This isn’t hard

I specifically mentioned plain yogurt as one that should have 0 added sugar since it is what any reasonable person would expect, so not sure what you're trying to say here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.

Amount of added sugar is zero for the products that shouldn't have it per common sense of any reasonable adult. That would include bread, lunch meat, plain yogurt, fresh salsa, canned veggies, some condiments (it is expected to see sugar in lets say, bbq sauce).
Other products are fair game.


If I’m buying sweet peach yogurt- I expect it will have sugar. Foods that taste sweet have sugar. That is how it works. This isn’t hard

I specifically mentioned plain yogurt as one that should have 0 added sugar since it is what any reasonable person would expect, so not sure what you're trying to say here.


Does plain yogurt have added sugar or are they counting the sugar that is naturally in the milk that is the core ingredient?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.


For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.

Amount of added sugar is zero for the products that shouldn't have it per common sense of any reasonable adult. That would include bread, lunch meat, plain yogurt, fresh salsa, canned veggies, some condiments (it is expected to see sugar in lets say, bbq sauce).
Other products are fair game.


If I’m buying sweet peach yogurt- I expect it will have sugar. Foods that taste sweet have sugar. That is how it works. This isn’t hard

I specifically mentioned plain yogurt as one that should have 0 added sugar since it is what any reasonable person would expect, so not sure what you're trying to say here.


Does plain yogurt have added sugar or are they counting the sugar that is naturally in the milk that is the core ingredient?

I'm a PP who posted above that I recently bought plain yogurt. When I got home, I noticed it tasted sweet...and, sure enough, it had added sugar though its being sweetened was listed nowhere but in the ingredient list. Honestly, until I saw the ingredient list, I thought it was a packaging mistake. This was Safeway Lucerne brand yogurt.
Anonymous
PP again. This was the yogurt: https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.960547194.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I usually buy a different brand (and whole milk), but this was all they had. You can see that the label gives no indication of being sweetened, but the ingredients list sugar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP again. This was the yogurt: https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.960547194.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I usually buy a different brand (and whole milk), but this was all they had. You can see that the label gives no indication of being sweetened, but the ingredients list sugar.


Hmm.. there seems to be no measurable amount in the nutrition label?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Icelandic yogurt tastes like crap to people used to more Greek yogurt taste.
And it is pretty hard, 300 yogurts full of sugar, barely 3 kinds of plain yogurt, and one of them has added sugar, most likely.
It is like some of you have never been in a proper grocery store, WF and TJ ain't it!

YES YES YES!!!! And 97% of the options are 0% fat, which is vile.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Icelandic yogurt tastes like crap to people used to more Greek yogurt taste.
And it is pretty hard, 300 yogurts full of sugar, barely 3 kinds of plain yogurt, and one of them has added sugar, most likely.
It is like some of you have never been in a proper grocery store, WF and TJ ain't it!

YES YES YES!!!! And 97% of the options are 0% fat, which is vile.


Supply and demand. People want to buy the sweet stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Icelandic yogurt tastes like crap to people used to more Greek yogurt taste.
And it is pretty hard, 300 yogurts full of sugar, barely 3 kinds of plain yogurt, and one of them has added sugar, most likely.
It is like some of you have never been in a proper grocery store, WF and TJ ain't it!

YES YES YES!!!! And 97% of the options are 0% fat, which is vile.


Supply and demand. People want to buy the sweet stuff.

And that’s the main problem right there. Sugar has been added everywhere by the food industry that we have become conditioned to enjoy overly sweet foods (and some of us are just plain addicted to sugar).
Anonymous
Supply and demand. People want to buy the sweet stuff.


I did actually write an email to Fage complaining that they discontinued or changed two of their lower sugar styles. They directed me to their plain yogurt, but I don't like plain yogurt (I also don't like the yogurt with 10-20 grams of added sugar).

I settled on certain Iceland yogurts (which I don't like as much) and a couple of Chobani styles that at least have only 5 grams of added sugar. I wouldn't really call any of these "sweet." I bet you could even get something similar in Europe where everyone is rail thin and has no health issues.

If you have a craving for something sweet and creamy, you could do worse than a yogurt with 4 or 5 grams of added sugar. (Compare that to downing a pint of Ben & Jerrys with 100+ grams of sugar). No one needs to have absolutely perfect nutrition to be healthy.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Supply and demand. People want to buy the sweet stuff.


I did actually write an email to Fage complaining that they discontinued or changed two of their lower sugar styles. They directed me to their plain yogurt, but I don't like plain yogurt (I also don't like the yogurt with 10-20 grams of added sugar).

I settled on certain Iceland yogurts (which I don't like as much) and a couple of Chobani styles that at least have only 5 grams of added sugar. I wouldn't really call any of these "sweet." I bet you could even get something similar in Europe where everyone is rail thin and has no health issues.

If you have a craving for something sweet and creamy, you could do worse than a yogurt with 4 or 5 grams of added sugar. (Compare that to downing a pint of Ben & Jerrys with 100+ grams of sugar). No one needs to have absolutely perfect nutrition to be healthy.




I don’t think there is as big of a market for the highly sweetened yogurt in Europe as there is here. They don’t eat yogurt the same way. My DH isn’t from US. He eats plain yogurt on pita bread or toast with olive oil and some tomatoes. To much of the world, yogurt is savory. In the US it is preferred as sweet. Even the people in the US buying plain yogurt, are most often doctoring it with a bunch of fruit and granola. You can’t blame stores for selling what people want to buy. I bet there is a very small market for plain yogurt.
Anonymous
You can’t blame stores for selling what people want to buy. I bet there is a very small market for plain yogurt.


...And that's how pizza became junk food.
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