Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy “whole grain” bread and turkey from Walmart and it’s going to be filled with preservatives and sugar. Bread that has a shelf life of months? Seriously?

You just don’t get how the quality of food can impact your life.

Yes, the whopping 2-3 g of sugar per slice.

https://www.google.com/search?q=whole+grain+nutrition+label&client=ms-android-xiaomi&prmd=isnv&sxsrf=ALeKk0233fVwq3rfZJzlDsp1BBUPszg5Dg:1624986253463&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmzpvDqb3xAhWNK3cKHctFAVMQ_AUoAXoECAIQAg&biw=360&bih=592&dpr=2

Yep, it’s 2-3 grams here, a few grams if crap over there and it all adds up.

What adds up is the 4th slice of pizza, the multiple sodas, beers, handfuls of fries, snacking.

But it's all started from 3 g here 5 grams there sugar everywhere is not a big deal approach.
Added sugar is a big deal in fighting obesity, the sooner society agrees on that the better for the health of that society.

Ah, no sorry. It didn’t “all start” with a couple grams of sugar in wheat bread or ketsup. It started with chocolate milk, Cocoa Puffs, kool-aid, white bread bologna sandwiches, cheeseburgers, totino’a pizza rolls, Little Debbie. The excuses here are bananas. Speaking of bananas, maybe it is their fault because they are high in sugar too

Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.

Personally, I’d rather skip the sugar in yogurt, and bread, and ketchup, so my kids can enjoy it in a damn cookie. But it’s not easy to avoid, unless I quit my full time job so I can prepare everything from scratch.

So you get plain yogurt. Flavored yogurt is...flavored. What is the issue? Don’t get it if you don’t want it. Look at the label. Some people eat yogurt as dessert, some a snack, some a condiment, some an ingredient for a recipe, some as a main part of breakfast. There are different yogurts with varying amount of sugar added or no sugar added to meet everyone’s wants and needs. The food industry isn’t tricking you

Actually, I recently bought plain yogurt...looked exactly like every container of plain, unsweetened yogurt I've bought in my life. But this stuff was sugar sweetened. Nowhere did it say sweetened. Yes, the ingredients when I looked listed sugar. But I had no reason to check them, since I've never seen plain yogurt with added sugar before. It's not "tricking" necessarily, but it does speak to something messed up.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a world where you would not have to count calories, grams of sugar, exercise to burn it off.

Imagine, you could just eat quality food and not gain weight.

That’s how a lot of people live in Europe
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But no, you keep clinging to your crap and keep saying that if only you eat a little bit of it, it’ll be OK. You just need to count how much crap you consume.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been in France the past few weeks visiting my spouse’s family and would like to point out that French people do not go to fancy restaurants that specialize in elaborate sauces every day, or even very often. Most people are very health conscious, and that means eating 2-3 real meals per day, mostly prepared at home with quality ingredients. Every meal includes vegetables.

I’ve been eating all I want, drinking a little wine every single day, and have not worked out once in three weeks, except for walking around town. I’ve lost 5lbs. There’s something wrong with American culture around eating/ exercising (in that it has to be feast or famine, literally) and also I really think that American processed food (bread, pasta, crackers) somehow are worse. Perhaps all the enrichment.

Except for walking around town... LOL
Why are people blind to the benefits of walking?

I’m not at all blind to the benefits of walking. I go for long walks every day at home in Washington, plus I exercise intensely 4-5 times per week. I’m absolutely moving less in France, eating whatever I want and losing weight. And, this always happens when I come visit family in Europe. There is absolutely a difference in the quality of our food in the US.

Agree. I see anecdotes like this all the time from people who travel to Europe. There is something about how we grow our wheat too. I think there has been research into the fact that we changed the type of wheat we grow here in the US in the 70's, and that is affecting our food supply too. I believe it's covered in the book "Wheat Belly".

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been in France the past few weeks visiting my spouse’s family and would like to point out that French people do not go to fancy restaurants that specialize in elaborate sauces every day, or even very often. Most people are very health conscious, and that means eating 2-3 real meals per day, mostly prepared at home with quality ingredients. Every meal includes vegetables.

I’ve been eating all I want, drinking a little wine every single day, and have not worked out once in three weeks, except for walking around town. I’ve lost 5lbs. There’s something wrong with American culture around eating/ exercising (in that it has to be feast or famine, literally) and also I really think that American processed food (bread, pasta, crackers) somehow are worse. Perhaps all the enrichment.

Except for walking around town... LOL
Why are people blind to the benefits of walking?

I’m not at all blind to the benefits of walking. I go for long walks every day at home in Washington, plus I exercise intensely 4-5 times per week. I’m absolutely moving less in France, eating whatever I want and losing weight. And, this always happens when I come visit family in Europe. There is absolutely a difference in the quality of our food in the US.

Agree. I see anecdotes like this all the time from people who travel to Europe. There is something about how we grow our wheat too. I think there has been research into the fact that we changed the type of wheat we grow here in the US in the 70's, and that is affecting our food supply too. I believe it's covered in the book "Wheat Belly".

Except that Wheat Belly bs was debunked a long time ago.

Guys, you are loosing weight when in Europe because you are excited and have many interesting things to do besides food. That's how it always works, as the saying goes, 'we lose weight when we have other interesting food available besides food'.

Signed, a European who always looses weight when abroad

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been in France the past few weeks visiting my spouse’s family and would like to point out that French people do not go to fancy restaurants that specialize in elaborate sauces every day, or even very often. Most people are very health conscious, and that means eating 2-3 real meals per day, mostly prepared at home with quality ingredients. Every meal includes vegetables.

I’ve been eating all I want, drinking a little wine every single day, and have not worked out once in three weeks, except for walking around town. I’ve lost 5lbs. There’s something wrong with American culture around eating/ exercising (in that it has to be feast or famine, literally) and also I really think that American processed food (bread, pasta, crackers) somehow are worse. Perhaps all the enrichment.

Except for walking around town... LOL
Why are people blind to the benefits of walking?

I’m not at all blind to the benefits of walking. I go for long walks every day at home in Washington, plus I exercise intensely 4-5 times per week. I’m absolutely moving less in France, eating whatever I want and losing weight. And, this always happens when I come visit family in Europe. There is absolutely a difference in the quality of our food in the US.

Agree. I see anecdotes like this all the time from people who travel to Europe. There is something about how we grow our wheat too. I think there has been research into the fact that we changed the type of wheat we grow here in the US in the 70's, and that is affecting our food supply too. I believe it's covered in the book "Wheat Belly".

Except that Wheat Belly bs was debunked a long time ago.

Guys, you are loosing weight when in Europe because you are excited and have many interesting things to do besides food. That's how it always works, as the saying goes, 'we lose weight when we have other interesting food available besides food'.

Signed, a European who always looses weight when abroad

Correction, obviously, that should have been 'other interesting things'

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I’m consumed by the people saying weight just melts off in Europe. I lived in Spain (not in a big city) and Russia and there were plenty of overweight people. I watched a documentary about Sicilian beaches and basically everyone over 30 was overweight (and in bikinis so I could really assess the weight!). Are people talking about Northern Europe? All my American friends of Northern European extraction (Swedes, Norwegians, etc.) are all thin even though they eat like americans — I think they are genetically programmed as quick metabolizers or something.

I’d be happy to have more healthy fresh options in America but I don’t see it as some magic bullet where we could eat as much as we want and still be thin! I eat fairly similar to a European (mostly fresh food) and walk a lot but my Sicilian genes are still packing on those pounds as I age.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/search?q=wheat+belly+debunked&oq=wheat+belly+deb&aqs=chrome.0.0i19j69i57.4930j0j7&client=ms-android-xiaomi&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sbfbu=1&pi=wheat%20belly%20debunked

Ah yes, debunked by the good ole scientists at "Fork over Knives". They don't have an agenda AT ALL.

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Sorry —meant to say confused not consumed!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m consumed by the people saying weight just melts off in Europe. I lived in Spain (not in a big city) and Russia and there were plenty of overweight people. I watched a documentary about Sicilian beaches and basically everyone over 30 was overweight (and in bikinis so I could really assess the weight!). Are people talking about Northern Europe? All my American friends of Northern European extraction (Swedes, Norwegians, etc.) are all thin even though they eat like americans — I think they are genetically programmed as quick metabolizers or something.

I’d be happy to have more healthy fresh options in America but I don’t see it as some magic bullet where we could eat as much as we want and still be thin! I eat fairly similar to a European (mostly fresh food) and walk a lot but my Sicilian genes are still packing on those pounds as I age.

I've been to Russia and yes, they have a lot of overweight people.

But I was also in Greece, Italy, Austria, France, Finland and people there are mostly fit and at normal weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a world where you would not have to count calories, grams of sugar, exercise to burn it off.

Imagine, you could just eat quality food and not gain weight.

That’s how a lot of people live in Europe
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But no, you keep clinging to your crap and keep saying that if only you eat a little bit of it, it’ll be OK. You just need to count how much crap you consume.

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Shocker but it's possible to not live in Europe yet still eat healthy and with portion control. And to even exercise and not blame lack of it on car culture or some other nebulous force.

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Ah, no sorry. It didn’t “all start” with a couple grams of sugar in wheat bread or ketsup. It started with chocolate milk, Cocoa Puffs, kool-aid, white bread bologna sandwiches, cheeseburgers, totino’a pizza rolls, Little Debbie. The excuses here are bananas. Speaking of bananas, maybe it is their fault because they are high in sugar too

No, it’s not just pizza. It’s little things. It’s how they hide 20g of sugar in a yogurt and 50g in coffee, how sugar has ten different names on ingredient label and you may not know them, how you have to be a god damn expert at reading labels to know the food additives and coloring to avoid. Why do we have to teach children to decipher ingredients labels? Why can’t we have food standards?

You don't need to be an expert to know that you shouldn't eat yogurt with 20g of sugar.

Believe it or not, kids don’t know that.

I believe it and know it. Believe it or not, I teach my kids to know you it too and I've taught them to have a basic understanding of nutrition. They know not to eat yogurt with 20g of sugar. I've also taught them it's their choice if they do choose to eat garbage like that. Maybe you should do them same.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a world where you would not have to count calories, grams of sugar, exercise to burn it off.

Imagine, you could just eat quality food and not gain weight.

That’s how a lot of people live in Europe
.
But no, you keep clinging to your crap and keep saying that if only you eat a little bit of it, it’ll be OK. You just need to count how much crap you consume.

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Except that PP is correct. Let’s take yogurt, for example. Out of 50+ options in the case, which one has a reasonable amount of sugar?

Plain. That’s it. And at my Giant, at least, there are maybe 4 options to choose from, only one or two of which are not fat free, which is vile and come with other things you don’t want to consume.

For people who are a healthy weight and eating an overall balanced diet, why is a yogurt with, say, 3 to 5 grams of sugar "unreasonable"? Are there new dietary guidelines that state the only amount of added sugar that is acceptable is zero? I usually have maybe 10-15 grams/day at the most, but there is room in my diet for a vanilla Icelandic Skyr with four ingredients and 3 grams of added sugar. I wish there were more low sugar options, but they do exist.