Murder at Lululemon in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:one of the news clips has a former soccer teammate of hers saying that she had a reputation of being a liar and thief. I bet Jayna caught her stealing and was going to turn her in...

I'm not trying to defend the character of the killer, but that entire interview was crap. It felt unnatural and forced. Really, they interviewed a tv reporter that was a freshman when Brittany was a senior. Yes, they were on the same team, but I find it hard to believe that the other seniors were giving any redshirts "tips" on the trustworthiness of their teammate. I think it was just a stretch to get a story by ABC. Lame and really not that helpful. Especially the ending - "I never thought someone I know would be accused of murder..." or something of the like. Really? You didn't know her. Your paths crossed for a period, end of "story".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh gees.....let's not start a race riot here. Let it go! She is a person! She committed a crime. One person is dead the other in jail! Who cares whether she is black or white. I bet at the end of the day it wasn't intended. I think she had an anger problem and she hit her and hurt her and at that point it got ugly! Bottom line one person is dead and the other is in big trouble. Does it really matter what color they are?

DITTO!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think every parent, who is not delusional, and who has kids that are older than 2 knows that we don't control the way they turn out. We influence but we do not control. I have deep sympathy for Brittany's family as well as Jayna's. Also, anyone who has a mentally ill family member understands that parents do not have any control at all over certain things. Normal people do not just snap and kill their bosses. This was not the act of a sane woman.

I agree with this. My younger brother is a total mess and causes my parents so much distress. He was normal until he was about 27 and then his life fell apart. He had a great job, had grad school paid for, but used the company credit card to charge non company related items and was fired. He is now 33 and lives in my parent's basement. He's been there for over a year. He steals from my parents (money, checks, credit cards,) lies, and has an awful temper. He used to have a close circle of friends and now has alienated all of them because I am sure he's stolen or borrowed money from them and then never pays them back.

My parents have sought therapy and the therapist has urged them to kick him out, but my mom won't let my dad do it. We just found out my mom has terminal cancer. He was "nice" to her for about three days after we found out the cancer was back and then started in on her again when she wouldn't give him money. I just want to throttle him, for lack of a better word. I think he's bipolar or has some other kind of mental illness. Either that or he is on drugs. We cannot force him to go and see anyone because of his age. My husband and I are going to propose paying for an apt. for six months under the condition that he goes to a therapist to get evaluated and then for regular visits and actively pursues getting a job. He's cost my parents about $150,000.00 over the last six years between credit card debts, living expenses, etc. He has such bad credit that he cannot even open a bank account.

It breaks my heart to think about all the stress my mom is under with her illness and with worrying about him.

I've digressed somewhat, but my point is that the parents should not be blamed. My brother grew up in a stable home with two loving parents who gave him everything. He went to top private schools, a great college, and had emotional and financial support all his life. Our parents never missed a game, a play, or anything important in our lives. We ate meals together every night growing up and were very close to our extended family. My parents sacrificed a lot for us and I am so grateful to them for everything. He says that they don't support him and that they are the ones with the problem.

I turned out fine (I think,) on the other hand. I have two healthy children, a great marriage, a job I like, a close circle of friends, and we are emotionally and financially stable.

[Anonymous]

Well it didn't add up. If don't question details and just consider her a "victim" then you
wouldn't be doing Jayna any justice.

[Anonymous]

She may be a victim of mental illness but that would be it. It is still unfathomable to me that anyone could committ a murder like that. And put so much thought into covering it up! Had she not said they were raped, not moved the car, not stuck on a size 14 pair of shoes and walked through the blood with them and then not gotten rid of them..........she may have gotten away with it! Hard to know but never the less it is clearly the work of a person that has been suffering with undiagnosed mental illness. Unfortunately there are many people walking around in the world with the same problem. Hopefully it is a LOW percentage that actually get to the place where they would commit a murder.

[Anonymous]

Don't employers check references anymore? She obviously can't hold down a job.

And many employers also do a credit check, which would have uncovered her eviction/monetary issues.

[Anonymous]

My boss is a prosecutor and we just discussed the case and he said that they have murder one as the charge right now, but he thinks it could be talked down to manslaughter (no intent). Then if they cut a deal she could get 20- 25 years and with good behavior would be out by her 40's. I do not want to believe this to be true but he was saying that since she has no priors and is young, if they can cut a deal they will and even if not the charges but not land her in prison for the rest of her life. I truly hope this is not the case and I hope the evidence does show she had intent. She should be in jail the rets of her life for this! Any lawyers out there have thoughts about possible sentences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think every parent, who is not delusional, and who has kids that are older than 2 knows that we don't control the way they turn out. We influence but we do not control. I have deep sympathy for Brittany's family as well as Jayna's. Also, anyone who has a mentally ill family member understands that parents do not have any control at all over certain things. Normal people do not just snap and kill their bosses. This was not the act of a sane woman.

I agree with this. My younger brother is a total mess and causes my parents so much distress. He was normal until he was about 27 and then his life fell apart. He had a great job, had grad school paid for, but used the company credit card to charge non company related items and was fired. He is now 33 and lives in my parent's basement. He's been there for over a year. He steals from my parents (money, checks, credit cards,) lies, and has an awful temper. He used to have a close circle of friends and now has alienated all of them because I am sure he's stolen or borrowed money from them and then never pays them back.

My parents have sought therapy and the therapist has urged them to kick him out, but my mom won't let my dad do it. We just found out my mom has terminal cancer. He was "nice" to her for about three days after we found out the cancer was back and then started in on her again when she wouldn't give him money. I just want to throttle him, for lack of a better word. I think he's bipolar or has some other kind of mental illness. Either that or he is on drugs. We cannot force him to go and see anyone because of his age. My husband and I are going to propose paying for an apt. for six months under the condition that he goes to a therapist to get evaluated and then for regular visits and actively pursues getting a job. He's cost my parents about $150,000.00 over the last six years between credit card debts, living expenses, etc. He has such bad credit that he cannot even open a bank account.

It breaks my heart to think about all the stress my mom is under with her illness and with worrying about him.

I've digressed somewhat, but my point is that the parents should not be blamed. My brother grew up in a stable home with two loving parents who gave him everything. He went to top private schools, a great college, and had emotional and financial support all his life. Our parents never missed a game, a play, or anything important in our lives. We ate meals together every night growing up and were very close to our extended family. My parents sacrificed a lot for us and I am so grateful to them for everything. He says that they don't support him and that they are the ones with the problem.

I turned out fine (I think,) on the other hand. I have two healthy children, a great marriage, a job I like, a close circle of friends, and we are emotionally and financially stable.

I am so sorry; I have an irrational fear of one of my beautiful children turning into the runaway train you describe. Especially if as a result of drug or mental illness. I can't imagine the anguish. My prayers for you and your beautiful family--including your brother who sounds like he needs serious help and doesn't even realize it.

[Anonymous]

Jayna's parents on Good Morning America

http://www.tbd.com/articles/2011/03/jayna-murray-s-parents-discuss-daughter-s-murder-on-good-morning-america-56828.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:one of the news clips has a former soccer teammate of hers saying that she had a reputation of being a liar and thief. I bet Jayna caught her stealing and was going to turn her in...

I'm not trying to defend the character of the killer, but that entire interview was crap. It felt unnatural and forced. Really, they interviewed a tv reporter that was a freshman when Brittany was a senior. Yes, they were on the same team, but I find it hard to believe that the other seniors were giving any redshirts "tips" on the trustworthiness of their teammate. I think it was just a stretch to get a story by ABC. Lame and really not that helpful. Especially the ending - "I never thought someone I know would be accused of murder..." or something of the like. Really? You didn't know her. Your paths crossed for a period, end of "story".

your assumptions don't mean anything. your opinions don't mean anything. we want to hear the opinions of the police, friends, people who crossed paths with her. this was one of them.

[Anonymous]

Her parents on the GMA video are so exceptionally calm. I'd be a blubbering mess. So sad.

[Anonymous]

1:49, so sorry to hear about your brother. Have you ever watched the show Intervention on A & E? It might be helpful.

[Anonymous]

Her parents interview was terrific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think every parent, who is not delusional, and who has kids that are older than 2 knows that we don't control the way they turn out. We influence but we do not control. I have deep sympathy for Brittany's family as well as Jayna's. Also, anyone who has a mentally ill family member understands that parents do not have any control at all over certain things. Normal people do not just snap and kill their bosses. This was not the act of a sane woman.

I agree with this. My younger brother is a total mess and causes my parents so much distress. He was normal until he was about 27 and then his life fell apart. He had a great job, had grad school paid for, but used the company credit card to charge non company related items and was fired. He is now 33 and lives in my parent's basement. He's been there for over a year. He steals from my parents (money, checks, credit cards,) lies, and has an awful temper. He used to have a close circle of friends and now has alienated all of them because I am sure he's stolen or borrowed money from them and then never pays them back.

My parents have sought therapy and the therapist has urged them to kick him out, but my mom won't let my dad do it. We just found out my mom has terminal cancer. He was "nice" to her for about three days after we found out the cancer was back and then started in on her again when she wouldn't give him money. I just want to throttle him, for lack of a better word. I think he's bipolar or has some other kind of mental illness. Either that or he is on drugs. We cannot force him to go and see anyone because of his age. My husband and I are going to propose paying for an apt. for six months under the condition that he goes to a therapist to get evaluated and then for regular visits and actively pursues getting a job. He's cost my parents about $150,000.00 over the last six years between credit card debts, living expenses, etc. He has such bad credit that he cannot even open a bank account.

It breaks my heart to think about all the stress my mom is under with her illness and with worrying about him.

I've digressed somewhat, but my point is that the parents should not be blamed. My brother grew up in a stable home with two loving parents who gave him everything. He went to top private schools, a great college, and had emotional and financial support all his life. Our parents never missed a game, a play, or anything important in our lives. We ate meals together every night growing up and were very close to our extended family. My parents sacrificed a lot for us and I am so grateful to them for everything. He says that they don't support him and that they are the ones with the problem.

I turned out fine (I think,) on the other hand. I have two healthy children, a great marriage, a job I like, a close circle of friends, and we are emotionally and financially stable.

I am so sorry; I have an irrational fear of one of my beautiful children turning into the runaway train you describe. Especially if as a result of drug or mental illness. I can't imagine the anguish. My prayers for you and your beautiful family--including your brother who sounds like he needs serious help and doesn't even realize it.

I hate to say this, but your fear is not irrational. My brother too is a total mess. We are 3 kids in our family, raised the same way and my brother is a DISASTER. My parents have spent thousands and thousands on thearapy. He is now 28 and completely cut off, unlike this PP. My brothers verbal abuse of our mother makes everyone LIVID. My parents did everything they could, my brother was just born rotten. Sometimes it happens.

I too worry about one of my children who is little, but seems to have huge anger issues. We are doing our best, but kids are products of our parenting to a certain point, but they are individuals none the less. I think nature trumps nurture. It is like dieting.....75% nature, 25% nurture. We as parents can only do our best, the rest is out of our control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I hate to say this, but your fear is not irrational. My brother too is a total mess. We are 3 kids in our family, raised the same way and my brother is a DISASTER. My parents have spent thousands and thousands on thearapy. He is now 28 and completely cut off, unlike this PP. My brothers verbal abuse of our mother makes everyone LIVID. My parents did everything they could, my brother was just born rotten. Sometimes it happens.

I too worry about one of my children who is little, but seems to have huge anger issues. We are doing our best, but kids are products of our parenting to a certain point, but they are individuals none the less. I think nature trumps nurture. It is like dieting.....75% nature, 25% nurture. We as parents can only do our best, the rest is out of our control.

I agree. My brother is not mentally ill but he did make one VERY bad choice that has effected many lives. He was responsible for a motor vehicle accident that killed someone. He didn't run or hide. He did plead gulity to manslaughter. He was sentanced to 6 years and is scheduled to go to parole in June, after serving two years. We went to private school, church every Sunday and came from a middle class back ground. One bad decision can change and end lives.

Brittany alone is responsible for this.