Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

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Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Um… 18 when he graduated high school. What’s the hilarious part ?

Your child would not be 18 if they were held back. They'd be 19.

Incorrect. My child was an August birthday. He graduated at age 18. He turned 19 in August, two weeks before he started college. I may not know much, but I do I know how old my kids are.

Then you did not hold back your child.

He did a kindergarten year and then a prefirst year. Call it whatever you want.

You added a fake year of school to his education. Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

I don’t know how old you are now and what was the cutoff where you grew up. My middle child has an end of October birthday, she is not redshirted and she is nowhere close to be one of the oldest in her private school 1st grade class. I know of few kids with July/august (redshirted), September, October birthdays in her class. I doubt she will be soooo traumatized from not being the youngest in her class. She is quite happy and a leader.

My eldest was redshirted and was born at the end of August (5 days before the cutoff). She is also never the oldest in the class, is happy, well adjusted, nobody is ever mentioned anything about her being redshirted, etc.

I come from a different country with 5 years of high school (I was 19 when I graduated high school as were half of my class mates). I came to college in the US where I was usually a year older than everyone else. I never cared, nobody ever mentioned it. It was absolutely a non-issue.

I am sure you had a bad mom, but I doubt your issues come from being older than your peers.

This. You clearly have a bad childhood, and social deficits, and I’m sorry for that. But acting like it all has to do with when you started school is probably not serving you.

In addition, your experience (at a public?) school 20 years ago has nothing to do with current parents’’ decisions regarding private schools today. Redshirting is nearly universal at many of them, and believe me, the other kids don’t blink an eye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Um… 18 when he graduated high school. What’s the hilarious part ?

Your child would not be 18 if they were held back. They'd be 19.

Incorrect. My child was an August birthday. He graduated at age 18. He turned 19 in August, two weeks before he started college. I may not know much, but I do I know how old my kids are.

Then you did not hold back your child.

He did a kindergarten year and then a prefirst year. Call it whatever you want.

You added a fake year of school to his education. Makes no sense.

Go back and read. He was anxious and not ready for school even though he was reading at 4. He ended up with a much better cohort who were also his age. It made total sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Um… 18 when he graduated high school. What’s the hilarious part ?

Your child would not be 18 if they were held back. They'd be 19.

Incorrect. My child was an August birthday. He graduated at age 18. He turned 19 in August, two weeks before he started college. I may not know much, but I do I know how old my kids are.

Then you did not hold back your child.

He did a kindergarten year and then a prefirst year. Call it whatever you want.

You added a fake year of school to his education. Makes no sense.

Good points. And during this fake year, I’m sure the child in question only learned fake facts, practiced fake skills, made fake friends, and developed fake neural connections.

This is a normal and reasonable conclusion. Well done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

I don’t know how old you are now and what was the cutoff where you grew up. My middle child has an end of October birthday, she is not redshirted and she is nowhere close to be one of the oldest in her private school 1st grade class. I know of few kids with July/august (redshirted), September, October birthdays in her class. I doubt she will be soooo traumatized from not being the youngest in her class. She is quite happy and a leader.

My eldest was redshirted and was born at the end of August (5 days before the cutoff). She is also never the oldest in the class, is happy, well adjusted, nobody is ever mentioned anything about her being redshirted, etc.

I come from a different country with 5 years of high school (I was 19 when I graduated high school as were half of my class mates). I came to college in the US where I was usually a year older than everyone else. I never cared, nobody ever mentioned it. It was absolutely a non-issue.

I am sure you had a bad mom, but I doubt your issues come from being older than your peers.

This. You clearly have a bad childhood, and social deficits, and I’m sorry for that. But acting like it all has to do with when you started school is probably not serving you.

In addition, your experience (at a public?) school 20 years ago has nothing to do with current parents’’ decisions regarding private schools today. Redshirting is nearly universal at many of them, and believe me, the other kids don’t blink an eye.

Maybe only at rich kid privates. We have done both public and private with a younger child.

You will find every excuse not to take responsibility for your actions or choices. Sad you didn't get your child help when you decided they were delayed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Um… 18 when he graduated high school. What’s the hilarious part ?

Your child would not be 18 if they were held back. They'd be 19.

Incorrect. My child was an August birthday. He graduated at age 18. He turned 19 in August, two weeks before he started college. I may not know much, but I do I know how old my kids are.

Then you did not hold back your child.

He did a kindergarten year and then a prefirst year. Call it whatever you want.

You added a fake year of school to his education. Makes no sense.

Good points. And during this fake year, I’m sure the child in question only learned fake facts, practiced fake skills, made fake friends, and developed fake neural connections.

This is a normal and reasonable conclusion. Well done.

What is the point of pre-1st? If it was important, don't you think everyone would be doing it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

You clearly don't understand why most parents give their kids an extra year of preschool (or pre-first?). You're projecting your twisted perception of it onto others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

Turning 18 in Oct of senior year is the norm now. Your advice is in appropriate and outdated. Your issues go way beyond being redshirted. Don't you see that? Your mother would have been the same no matter when you graduated.

[Anonymous]

Ask people whose kids are in high school or college and ignore people with younger kids.

The answer for a boy is nearly always to redshirt, unless he’s a genius intellectually, athletically, and socially.

[Anonymous]

Parent of a September child who was “redshirted” and just graduated from HS. So very glad we did it. Zero regrets.

DC was not even close to be being the oldest kid in his class. He had one kid who was a late summer birthday in his class and was not held back, and his mother expressed regret for not redshirting him. The kid was smart and did well in school, but was always less mature than his peers, and it mattered. Teachers are very annoyed by the kid that is less mature than his classmates, even if the kid is academically gifted and behaving appropriately for his age.

Don’t listen to those who say that this doesn’t matter in MS and HS. It matters more. Boys already grow and hit puberty at different rates, and it sucks to be the smallest kid in your class that still looks like a little boy when everyone else is shaving. If your kid is 6 months to a year younger than everyone else, you’ve made it a strong possibility that this will be your kid.

At the end of the day, you may not have much of a choice — IME, private schools accept very few boys with birthdays earlier than October, and many have October 1 as their birthday qualification date.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

Turning 18 in Oct of senior year is the norm now. Your advice is in appropriate and outdated. Your issues go way beyond being redshirted. Don't you see that? Your mother would have been the same no matter when you graduated.

A child who turns 18 in October is a child who was sent to school on time, and not red-shirted. That child is just on the older side of the grade that they are supposed to be in. That child's peers, also not red shirted, but born in the summer let's say, would not turn 18 until after they graduate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I turned18 in October of my my senior year of high school, 19 as I began my first year of college. I was off-age at the time, 20+ years ago. I remember every birthday as being " why are you an entire year older than us?" Yay for birthdays.

I was held back by my mother, who was anxious and projected her problems on me, and against recommendations of the school. I had an exceptionally high IQ, undiagnosed ADHD (as in, not diagnosed until I was middle-aged, since ADHD didn't exist for smart girls in the 70s/80s), and trauma and social problems from being raised by my mentally ill mother.

So, I do get touchy about this subject. Some of you moms out there who are hell-bent on this idea might be like my mom. Personality disordered with no empathy for child, only concerned with the social/status implications of your child doing well. Maybe you think your child looks good next to kids in the grade younger. Maybe all that matters is that your child does competitively well, next to kids who aren't the appropriate competition. You don't realize kids know the birthdays/ages very well. They are obsessed with those details.

I would have been both smarter and more socially awkward no matter what age group. I became socially competent and even successful by middle/high school, but still had to deal with the insecurity of being assumed weird for being a year older.

I don't care anymore. It's not my fight. I was damaged by mentally ill mother who held me back. Your experiences may vary.

Turning 18 in Oct of senior year is the norm now. Your advice is in appropriate and outdated. Your issues go way beyond being redshirted. Don't you see that? Your mother would have been the same no matter when you graduated.

A child who turns 18 in October is a child who was sent to school on time, and not red-shirted. That child is just on the older side of the grade that they are supposed to be in. That child's peers, also not red shirted, but born in the summer let's say, would not turn 18 until after they graduate.

Yes! Cutoff is September 1st. Anyone born on or after September 1st is NOT REDSHIRTED. My DD has an end of October birthday. Her BFF is a beginning of October birthday. Neither of them was redshirted and they are both among the oldest in the class, but they have at least 4 kids older than they are (out of 18). My DD is probably number 6 or 7 oldest. Maybe a couple of kids were redshirted… I don’t know and I don’t care.