Teacher shot at Newport News elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/10/richneck-elementary-shooting-mother-interview-adhd/

According to mom, ADHD made him do it. He said the "teacher wasn't listening to him..."

I taught lots of kids that had diagnosis of ADHD. Restless? Yes. Distracted? yes Violent? not beyond playing rough on the playground

Yeah, blaming the ADHD is WILD to me. I have a child with extremely severe ADHD who had behavioral issues in K. We didn't know any better since he hadn't been in a school style setting because of the pandemic but as soon as we were notified of what was happening during the school day (within the first two weeks of school), we had him evaluated and he then started medication, OT, play therapy, etc. At the school, while the process took longer, he had an IEP and associated services by January. No further behavioral issues during that year or since.

This honestly seems like a failure on multiple fronts to help this child, his teacher and the students negatively impacted by his behavior. At a minimum the parents should have medicated the kid when the severity became known, certainly at school by age 5 instead of waiting until the child was completely out of control in first grade. And the idea you'd just stop attending because your kid has been on medication for less than a week is absurd. They wouldn't have known whether it was even the correct medication/dosage for their child by then. And the school administrators....yikes. Horrible.

According to news sources, the parents didn’t unilaterally stop. Their attendance requirement was eliminated because he had improved and the teacher had recommended extending his school days due to his progress.

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Severe ADHD is a massive problem in schools today, no doubt. But ADHD doesn’t turn people into shooters.

This should go against her in the criminal case. They aren’t taking responsibility at all.

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According to news sources, the parents didn’t unilaterally stop. Their attendance requirement was eliminated because he had improved and the teacher had recommended extending his school days due to his progress.

I’m so curious to hear more about this situation and how that accommodation came to be in place and why they walked it back the way they did. Whenever I have had a student getting 1-to-1 support, it was walked back incredibly gradually. Things like getting support for the first two thirds of every lesson and letting the student be independent for the last third, or backing down the support by content area over the course of several weeks. Abrupt changes can be really stressful for some kids, especially those that need intensive support.

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Anonymous wrote:Severe ADHD is a massive problem in schools today, no doubt. But ADHD doesn’t turn people into shooters.

This should go against her in the criminal case. They aren’t taking responsibility at all.

it will. She has the right to remain silent and anything she says can and will be used against her in a court of law. This interview counts as such.

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I hope this whole awful situation does one thing - that it shakes the tree to find out exactly WHO is responsible for violent students in the classroom. Is it the school admin? The government due to crappy laws? Or the parents (even if the kid doesn’t bring a gun to school - obviously this situation is even worse in that regard).

Everyone will point the finger at everyone else at first, but hopefully after this case we’ll have more clarity about what we need to do as a country to get order back into our schools and get the violent kids out.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this whole awful situation does one thing - that it shakes the tree to find out exactly WHO is responsible for violent students in the classroom. Is it the school admin? The government due to crappy laws? Or the parents (even if the kid doesn’t bring a gun to school - obviously this situation is even worse in that regard).

Everyone will point the finger at everyone else at first, but hopefully after this case we’ll have more clarity about what we need to do as a country to get order back into our schools and get the violent kids out.

Amen.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/10/richneck-elementary-shooting-mother-interview-adhd/

According to mom, ADHD made him do it. He said the "teacher wasn't listening to him..."

I taught lots of kids that had diagnosis of ADHD. Restless? Yes. Distracted? yes Violent? not beyond playing rough on the playground

I wouldn’t be surprised if the kid has FASD. It gets misdiagnosed as ADHD all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/10/richneck-elementary-shooting-mother-interview-adhd/

According to mom, ADHD made him do it. He said the "teacher wasn't listening to him..."

I taught lots of kids that had diagnosis of ADHD. Restless? Yes. Distracted? yes Violent? not beyond playing rough on the playground

This mother can GTFO with the whole “ADHD made him do it” angle. She needs to get a grip and accept that her son’s issues run far deeper than ADHD. ADHD doesn’t make you violent. Her son has deep rooted mental health issues that were exacerbated by some terrible parenting. I cannot believe that she had the audacity to suggest that ADHD and the teacher “ignoring” her kid is the reason for this. I had a tiny modicum of sympathy for her before this ridiculous interview, but now I’m just left with disgust.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/10/richneck-elementary-shooting-mother-interview-adhd/

According to mom, ADHD made him do it. He said the "teacher wasn't listening to him..."

I taught lots of kids that had diagnosis of ADHD. Restless? Yes. Distracted? yes Violent? not beyond playing rough on the playground

I wouldn’t be surprised if the kid has FASD. It gets misdiagnosed as ADHD all the time.

FASD + ADHD + conduct disorder or ODD. Should not have been in a mainstream classroom the second his issues came to light in K. The problem is there are basically no alternative placements for kids like that especially ones that young.

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https://fasdsocalnetwork.org/anger-and-violence/

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I just wish that the parents of the other students would get together and sue the family in addition to the administration and district for knowingly and extensively endangering their children.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this whole awful situation does one thing - that it shakes the tree to find out exactly WHO is responsible for violent students in the classroom. Is it the school admin? The government due to crappy laws? Or the parents (even if the kid doesn’t bring a gun to school - obviously this situation is even worse in that regard).

Everyone will point the finger at everyone else at first, but hopefully after this case we’ll have more clarity about what we need to do as a country to get order back into our schools and get the violent kids out.

There have been violence kids in school for forever. The Columbine mass shooting happened in 1999. Parkland happened. Neither of those mass killings done by high school students provided us with clarity and I doubt this case with a six year old boy whom the school system has barely even had the opportunity to get to know is going to make any difference in sorting this out. But maybe it will shed some light on the need for services for very young kids.

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According to news sources, the parents didn’t unilaterally stop. Their attendance requirement was eliminated because he had improved and the teacher had recommended extending his school days due to his progress.

I’m so curious to hear more about this situation and how that accommodation came to be in place and why they walked it back the way they did. Whenever I have had a student getting 1-to-1 support, it was walked back incredibly gradually. Things like getting support for the first two thirds of every lesson and letting the student be independent for the last third, or backing down the support by content area over the course of several weeks. Abrupt changes can be really stressful for some kids, especially those that need intensive support.

I agree with you. As a parent of two kids with IEPs, I’ve seen and heard about a lot of services and accommodations while trying to get my kids what they need, the plan that has come to light is so highly unusual for what we see in the DMV. But i also know that things we’d never consider here happen in other areas of the country. I’m guessing as the lawsuits happen, we will learn more.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope this whole awful situation does one thing - that it shakes the tree to find out exactly WHO is responsible for violent students in the classroom. Is it the school admin? The government due to crappy laws? Or the parents (even if the kid doesn’t bring a gun to school - obviously this situation is even worse in that regard).

Everyone will point the finger at everyone else at first, but hopefully after this case we’ll have more clarity about what we need to do as a country to get order back into our schools and get the violent kids out.

There have been violence kids in school for forever. The Columbine mass shooting happened in 1999. Parkland happened. Neither of those mass killings done by high school students provided us with clarity and I doubt this case with a six year old boy whom the school system has barely even had the opportunity to get to know is going to make any difference in sorting this out. But maybe it will shed some light on the need for services for very young kids.

You are incorrectly conflating mass murder in the form of school shootings with the issue at hand with this case, which is how special education in the US operates in a way that puts students and staff at risk of children whose needs are too extreme for a public school setting but who are left there anyway. This is a case of systemic negligence and oversight , not a mass murder and it’s different.