Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is filthy rich but an extremely basic dimwitted boring and uneducated American gal. That "boring" jab must have cut her so deep. She has always tried to surround herself with edgy art scene creatives and Euros and tries to masquerade as this creative erudite poet. To pretend she's content with some idiot American football jock and his flyover prole family is laughable. That's why every time she's with him, his family, and/or his social circle she's got booze in her hand. She's miserable af.

This is worded more harshly than I’d have put it, but it’s basically how I felt until I saw her appearance on the Kelce podcast right before they got engaged. IDK, to me she seemed blissfully happy and head over heels in love. I think another PP had it right. Taylor WANTS to be sees as an edgy cool artsy creative, but at the end of the day what she really wanted all along was for the hunky star footballer to pick her, give her a fat rock, and worship the ground she walks on.

(Np). I came to the same conclusion after seeing her on Jimmy Fallon. She explained that she didn’t want to do the SuperBowl halftime show because she’s too focused on her incredible boyfriend. I think she even said something like, “every Sunday he puts his life on the line”. Girl, what? She called him a “Gladiator.” I think she’s head over heels smitten and when the rose colored glasses come off, she’s going to be embarrassed at how impressed she was by football.

I saw that interview clip and it was so weird. At first I was on board with the sentiment (football is Travis's thing, so she doesn't want to do the halftime show so that she can just support him doing his thing). But when she started talking about him putting his life on the line, I was like.... wut? First of all, he's not "putting his life on the line" unless you literally mean the line of scrimmage or something. Football is entertainment, Travis isn't making some noble sacrifice for anything that matters. And second, her language made it sound like it would somehow be disrespectful for her to care about her career while Travis was working, like his job was just so much more important than hers. Which makes no sense. They are both entertainers, neither job is inherently more important than the other, but Taylor's job definitely employs more people and has way more people relying on her -- there is only one Taylor Swift but there are other NFL-caliber tight ends.

She reminds me of friends/colleagues/classmates of mine who were very rah-rah feminist in their 20s about wanting egalitarian relationships or not even needing a man at all (whatever, I have my squad, amiright) but then got pretty traditionalist when they got married in their 30s. There's nothing wrong with choosing a traditional marriage if that's what you want, but the 180 can be jarring and you realize that a lot of the "feminist ideals" such women spout are just a persona they were trying on, it's not real to them. It definitely is starting to feel like this might be the case for Taylor.

Your disinterest in football doesn't matter. It's still a very violent dangerous sport. There is no "wut" about it. It may not be noble but it is his job. Remember Damar Hamlin?

She was on Fallon talking about him as if he is front lines in Ukraine or a firefighter running into a burning building to save children.

Yeah football is dangerous but in the same way as a stunt man’s job is dangerous or drag racing is dangerous. Travis Kelce is doing it not out of societal necessity but as a choice.

The fact that Taylor seems to put him in the first category and not the second suggests to me that she might be infatuated.

She's exaggerating the danger and braveness of Travis's occupation because he's just a shallow dumb meathead playing a kid's sport. She is desperately trying to make him seem more interesting than he actually is. There's no there there, so she exaggerates. It's giving . . . insecure about the putz she settled for, in contrast to the hot edgy witty creative British boys this Anglophile has been obsessed with most of her life.

Most of her life. And then she didn’t. Why are you still spinning your wheels over it? Those guys look like they smell bad and have substance abuse issues which permanently alter their brains. Probably would damage future kids too. Hard pass.

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Anonymous wrote:And to finish….the album is fake & PR so is the Kelce romance. Completely transactional. No way she is serious about this Sasquatch. She’s got damage control to do and is still licking her wounds.

Please go take your meds.

Well, least I’m not boring. Lololol

Not boring? You’re spending a day talking about someone that’s clearly not your cup of tea. Um….

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I’m actually one of the posters who actually likes Taylor but I see what’s happening for what it is. She doesn’t really hide it, it’s all out there. Her image has always been her number one priority. It’s why Matty ghosted her because she wouldn’t stand up to her fans when they were calling in death threats and trying to ruin his career. She sings about this to a great extent in TTPD. As far as Kelce goes, he might be good for her All American girl image and MH embarrassment damage control but she’s too way waaaayy too good for him. He's gross shallow and dumb. Taylor deserves better. I’m rooting for her. But he is not it. It’s all so messy.

If she could do better,she would. She can't .

Taylor gives off crazy cat lady vibes. No man wants to be associated with her unless it financially benefits them.

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Anonymous wrote:And to finish….the album is fake & PR so is the Kelce romance. Completely transactional. No way she is serious about this Sasquatch. She’s got damage control to do and is still licking her wounds.

Please go take your meds.

Well, least I’m not boring. Lololol

Not boring? You’re spending a day talking about someone that’s clearly not your cup of tea. Um….

+1

I’m actually one of the posters who actually likes Taylor but I see what’s happening for what it is. She doesn’t really hide it, it’s all out there. Her image has always been her number one priority. It’s why Matty ghosted her because she wouldn’t stand up to her fans when they were calling in death threats and trying to ruin his career. She sings about this to a great extent in TTPD. As far as Kelce goes, he might be good for her All American girl image and MH embarrassment damage control but she’s too way waaaayy too good for him. He's gross shallow and dumb. Taylor deserves better. I’m rooting for her. But he is not it. It’s all so messy.

If she could do better,she would. She can't .

Taylor gives off crazy cat lady vibes. No man wants to be associated with her unless it financially benefits them.

It works for men why can’t it work for women?

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Anonymous wrote:And to finish….the album is fake & PR so is the Kelce romance. Completely transactional. No way she is serious about this Sasquatch. She’s got damage control to do and is still licking her wounds.

Please go take your meds.

Well, least I’m not boring. Lololol

Not boring? You’re spending a day talking about someone that’s clearly not your cup of tea. Um….

+1

I’m actually one of the posters who actually likes Taylor but I see what’s happening for what it is. She doesn’t really hide it, it’s all out there. Her image has always been her number one priority. It’s why Matty ghosted her because she wouldn’t stand up to her fans when they were calling in death threats and trying to ruin his career. She sings about this to a great extent in TTPD. As far as Kelce goes, he might be good for her All American girl image and MH embarrassment damage control but she’s too way waaaayy too good for him. He's gross shallow and dumb. Taylor deserves better. I’m rooting for her. But he is not it. It’s all so messy.

If she could do better,she would. She can't .

Taylor gives off crazy cat lady vibes. No man wants to be associated with her unless it financially benefits them.

I don’t think it is about her being a cat lady but I imagine it is nerve wracking to date her. Her fanbase is intense and will chew men up and spit them out.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is filthy rich but an extremely basic dimwitted boring and uneducated American gal. That "boring" jab must have cut her so deep. She has always tried to surround herself with edgy art scene creatives and Euros and tries to masquerade as this creative erudite poet. To pretend she's content with some idiot American football jock and his flyover prole family is laughable. That's why every time she's with him, his family, and/or his social circle she's got booze in her hand. She's miserable af.

Oh that “boring” moniker smarts like a MFer. Taylor singing about on Matty “The smallest man who ever lived”:

“You said normal girls were boring, but you were gone by the morning”

Then it dawns on Taylor that he and his friends like Charli, George were actually talking about her:

“I hear you call me Boring Barbie when the cokes got you brave” - Actually Romantic

Then Charli sets up Matt with her BFF Gabriette the second Taylor is ghosted.

This Matty rejection on the heals of Joe refusing to marry her. Taylor’s humiliated and pissed so she goes for the first desperate climber guy who gives her public adoration even though she’s not into him and she knows secretly she’s not his type either but he’s running cover for her humiliation.

And that’s how we got this fake ass album. It’s straight PR for TTPD and to shove it in Matty’s face after so publicly pining for him when he thinks she is a joke. That’s why this album came out so fast and why it’s so rushed and awful.

+1. It was cringe at the New Heights podcast when Taylor caressed Travis’ face and tried to convince us how handsome he is (basically every time he came across as an idiot). They have zero chemistry. Unfortunately for her, she has promoted this relationship so hard that at this point she has no other choice but to marry him, unless something dramatic happens, e.g. Matty decides that he wants her back after all.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely confused as to why she so drastically changed her type by going for someone like Travis. Why would she do that? It's true that as one PP said, he was her type all along and she was pretending to be into the edgy intellectual types, but she could have gone for someone like Travis from the beginning.

Maybe she grew up and moved away from drug addicted Peter Pans?

The doofus who shotgunned beers last summer on stage at his bachelor's degree ceremony and was kicked off his college team for drugs is so mature.

Work hard, play hard. Do you have comments about his job performance?

I’ll play! Yes I do have comments about his “workplace.” His out of control behavior broke a colleagues collar bone. He also yelled at his boss and pushed him. Those things are deal breakers in most work places.

DP. What on earth are you lying about this time? He didn’t break anyone’s collarbone, you twit.

WR Xavier Worthy: In the season opener, Worthy dislocated his right shoulder in a collision with Travis Kelce, missing the remainder of that game and the following two.

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They have zero chemistry and that’s confirmed with this much hyped Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz album. Either they’re both closeted gay in a lavender thing and/or this is a long con to milk flyover country rubes.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is filthy rich but an extremely basic dimwitted boring and uneducated American gal. That "boring" jab must have cut her so deep. She has always tried to surround herself with edgy art scene creatives and Euros and tries to masquerade as this creative erudite poet. To pretend she's content with some idiot American football jock and his flyover prole family is laughable. That's why every time she's with him, his family, and/or his social circle she's got booze in her hand. She's miserable af.

Oh that “boring” moniker smarts like a MFer. Taylor singing about on Matty “The smallest man who ever lived”:

“You said normal girls were boring, but you were gone by the morning”

Then it dawns on Taylor that he and his friends like Charli, George were actually talking about her:

“I hear you call me Boring Barbie when the cokes got you brave” - Actually Romantic

Then Charli sets up Matt with her BFF Gabriette the second Taylor is ghosted.

This Matty rejection on the heals of Joe refusing to marry her. Taylor’s humiliated and pissed so she goes for the first desperate climber guy who gives her public adoration even though she’s not into him and she knows secretly she’s not his type either but he’s running cover for her humiliation.

And that’s how we got this fake ass album. It’s straight PR for TTPD and to shove it in Matty’s face after so publicly pining for him when he thinks she is a joke. That’s why this album came out so fast and why it’s so rushed and awful.

+1. It was cringe at the New Heights podcast when Taylor caressed Travis’ face and tried to convince us how handsome he is (basically every time he came across as an idiot). They have zero chemistry. Unfortunately for her, she has promoted this relationship so hard that at this point she has no other choice but to marry him, unless something dramatic happens, e.g. Matty decides that he wants her back after all.

It's going to be hard to backtrack after this much promotion. I think she'll marry him but they'll quietly separate in a year or two, divorce in 5. This gets people off her back about failed relationships for 1/2 a decade and maybe the narrative will die. I love a good love story, but don't see much hope for her and matty unfortunately. I think she's hung up for reals on him but I think he loves the idea of her more than her. And I am sure that has turned to hate and defensiveness by now.

I don't think she wants kids so there is no pressure on her on that front. Tons of pressure to be the most successful artist and, as someone upthread said, to be beautiful. She will struggle with these pressures for the next 15 years. The hope is she gets into directing or producing - something that allows her to win awards and be at the top of the industry after it gets harder to hold her place as an entertainer. Unless somehow our stupid youth obsession dies and a aged-faced 45 pop singer is, as it should be, a real possibility.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely confused as to why she so drastically changed her type by going for someone like Travis. Why would she do that? It's true that as one PP said, he was her type all along and she was pretending to be into the edgy intellectual types, but she could have gone for someone like Travis from the beginning.

Maybe she grew up and moved away from drug addicted Peter Pans?

The doofus who shotgunned beers last summer on stage at his bachelor's degree ceremony and was kicked off his college team for drugs is so mature.

Work hard, play hard. Do you have comments about his job performance?

I’ll play! Yes I do have comments about his “workplace.” His out of control behavior broke a colleagues collar bone. He also yelled at his boss and pushed him. Those things are deal breakers in most work places.

Out of control behavior? You are lost. He missed a block. It happens

Why WOULDN”T you write that up in “job performance complaints?”

Because the guys who aren’t starters miss even more blocks and make even more mistakes. That’s the game.

Right….. he “risks his life every game” but only if he is playing against a fool like himself.

But to your point- this doesn’t happen that often. It got press because it was an abnormal mistake. Most star running backs don’t take out their own players. He did and so it got press. Why normalize it? It isn’t an every game or every day thing. He messed up. Have you played sports? This will stick in his coaches head as a mistake because it was one. And he needs to get his head back in the game and keep this from happening. This kind of mistake is the difference between world champion chiefs and all the other teams.

You called him a running back and want us to take you seriously? Find a new hobby.

Bizarre how Swifties are more oppressive than MAGA.

Bizarre how people who can't stand her follow her every move and have even moved on to trying (and failing miserably) to discuss football, a sport they know even less about than pop music. Why don't you spend as much time discussing the things that actually do interest you and you have at least a passing knowledge about? The rest of this is embarrassing for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely confused as to why she so drastically changed her type by going for someone like Travis. Why would she do that? It's true that as one PP said, he was her type all along and she was pretending to be into the edgy intellectual types, but she could have gone for someone like Travis from the beginning.

Maybe she grew up and moved away from drug addicted Peter Pans?

The doofus who shotgunned beers last summer on stage at his bachelor's degree ceremony and was kicked off his college team for drugs is so mature.

Work hard, play hard. Do you have comments about his job performance?

I’ll play! Yes I do have comments about his “workplace.” His out of control behavior broke a colleagues collar bone. He also yelled at his boss and pushed him. Those things are deal breakers in most work places.

DP. What on earth are you lying about this time? He didn’t break anyone’s collarbone, you twit.

WR Xavier Worthy: In the season opener, Worthy dislocated his right shoulder in a collision with Travis Kelce, missing the remainder of that game and the following two.

Why would you say he broke a collarbone then? Are you the same who can't even get the player's positions right? Might be time to sit this one out. Injuries are part of the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is filthy rich but an extremely basic dimwitted boring and uneducated American gal. That "boring" jab must have cut her so deep. She has always tried to surround herself with edgy art scene creatives and Euros and tries to masquerade as this creative erudite poet. To pretend she's content with some idiot American football jock and his flyover prole family is laughable. That's why every time she's with him, his family, and/or his social circle she's got booze in her hand. She's miserable af.

Oh that “boring” moniker smarts like a MFer. Taylor singing about on Matty “The smallest man who ever lived”:

“You said normal girls were boring, but you were gone by the morning”

Then it dawns on Taylor that he and his friends like Charli, George were actually talking about her:

“I hear you call me Boring Barbie when the cokes got you brave” - Actually Romantic

Then Charli sets up Matt with her BFF Gabriette the second Taylor is ghosted.

This Matty rejection on the heals of Joe refusing to marry her. Taylor’s humiliated and pissed so she goes for the first desperate climber guy who gives her public adoration even though she’s not into him and she knows secretly she’s not his type either but he’s running cover for her humiliation.

And that’s how we got this fake ass album. It’s straight PR for TTPD and to shove it in Matty’s face after so publicly pining for him when he thinks she is a joke. That’s why this album came out so fast and why it’s so rushed and awful.

+1. It was cringe at the New Heights podcast when Taylor caressed Travis’ face and tried to convince us how handsome he is (basically every time he came across as an idiot). They have zero chemistry. Unfortunately for her, she has promoted this relationship so hard that at this point she has no other choice but to marry him, unless something dramatic happens, e.g. Matty decides that he wants her back after all.

It's going to be hard to backtrack after this much promotion. I think she'll marry him but they'll quietly separate in a year or two, divorce in 5. This gets people off her back about failed relationships for 1/2 a decade and maybe the narrative will die. I love a good love story, but don't see much hope for her and matty unfortunately. I think she's hung up for reals on him but I think he loves the idea of her more than her. And I am sure that has turned to hate and defensiveness by now.

I don't think she wants kids so there is no pressure on her on that front. Tons of pressure to be the most successful artist and, as someone upthread said, to be beautiful. She will struggle with these pressures for the next 15 years. The hope is she gets into directing or producing - something that allows her to win awards and be at the top of the industry after it gets harder to hold her place as an entertainer. Unless somehow our stupid youth obsession dies and a aged-faced 45 pop singer is, as it should be, a real possibility.

She's not talented enough to be a director nor a producer.Besides, doing those things mean having a hand even if indirect, in someone else's potential success. This is not who she appears to be. You can't fault our so-called youth obsession when you literally have the female peter pan in front of you. Lol

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I don’t know why people don’t believe her relationship with a football jock. She’s basically super rich and pretentious trailer trash. She’s a millennial who never went to college—that’s unheard of in UMC orbits. She’s a terminally online tumblr/redditor and beyond immature for her age. Her best friend is another mean girl pretentious moron who never went to college in Blake Lively. She’s dated a series of actors, who are notoriously stupid. Travis seems like an intellectual match. She prob gets off on the fact that Travis so dumb he makes her, an uneducated midwit, feel smart.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why people don’t believe her relationship with a football jock. She’s basically super rich and pretentious trailer trash. She’s a millennial who never went to college—that’s unheard of in UMC orbits. She’s a terminally online tumblr/redditor and beyond immature for her age. Her best friend is another mean girl pretentious moron who never went to college in Blake Lively. She’s dated a series of actors, who are notoriously stupid. Travis seems like an intellectual match. She prob gets off on the fact that Travis so dumb he makes her, an uneducated midwit, feel smart.

You poor soul, still thinking that college makes you an educated person. Guess what, haters…..her new album is number one again. Not bad for a ‘has been’.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why people don’t believe her relationship with a football jock. She’s basically super rich and pretentious trailer trash. She’s a millennial who never went to college—that’s unheard of in UMC orbits. She’s a terminally online tumblr/redditor and beyond immature for her age. Her best friend is another mean girl pretentious moron who never went to college in Blake Lively. She’s dated a series of actors, who are notoriously stupid. Travis seems like an intellectual match. She prob gets off on the fact that Travis so dumb he makes her, an uneducated midwit, feel smart.

She’s not in your umc orbit weirdo! You won’t get the chance to sneer at her and have her know about it. She’s in a totally different stratosphere.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor is filthy rich but an extremely basic dimwitted boring and uneducated American gal. That "boring" jab must have cut her so deep. She has always tried to surround herself with edgy art scene creatives and Euros and tries to masquerade as this creative erudite poet. To pretend she's content with some idiot American football jock and his flyover prole family is laughable. That's why every time she's with him, his family, and/or his social circle she's got booze in her hand. She's miserable af.

Oh that “boring” moniker smarts like a MFer. Taylor singing about on Matty “The smallest man who ever lived”:

“You said normal girls were boring, but you were gone by the morning”

Then it dawns on Taylor that he and his friends like Charli, George were actually talking about her:

“I hear you call me Boring Barbie when the cokes got you brave” - Actually Romantic

Then Charli sets up Matt with her BFF Gabriette the second Taylor is ghosted.

This Matty rejection on the heals of Joe refusing to marry her. Taylor’s humiliated and pissed so she goes for the first desperate climber guy who gives her public adoration even though she’s not into him and she knows secretly she’s not his type either but he’s running cover for her humiliation.

And that’s how we got this fake ass album. It’s straight PR for TTPD and to shove it in Matty’s face after so publicly pining for him when he thinks she is a joke. That’s why this album came out so fast and why it’s so rushed and awful.

+1. It was cringe at the New Heights podcast when Taylor caressed Travis’ face and tried to convince us how handsome he is (basically every time he came across as an idiot). They have zero chemistry. Unfortunately for her, she has promoted this relationship so hard that at this point she has no other choice but to marry him, unless something dramatic happens, e.g. Matty decides that he wants her back after all.

It's going to be hard to backtrack after this much promotion. I think she'll marry him but they'll quietly separate in a year or two, divorce in 5. This gets people off her back about failed relationships for 1/2 a decade and maybe the narrative will die. I love a good love story, but don't see much hope for her and matty unfortunately. I think she's hung up for reals on him but I think he loves the idea of her more than her. And I am sure that has turned to hate and defensiveness by now.

I don't think she wants kids so there is no pressure on her on that front. Tons of pressure to be the most successful artist and, as someone upthread said, to be beautiful. She will struggle with these pressures for the next 15 years. The hope is she gets into directing or producing - something that allows her to win awards and be at the top of the industry after it gets harder to hold her place as an entertainer. Unless somehow our stupid youth obsession dies and an aged-faced 45 pop singer is, as it should be, a real possibility.

The song Wish List kind of indicates she does want kids. I mean, who knows what she actually wants and it's also possible she's conflicted -- I was actually pretty conflicted about whether or not to have kids when I was in my early 30s. But I also ultimately had kids because I decided even if I was a little unsure, I wasn't willing to just forgo that experience and time was of the essence. And it was the right choice for me.

I would guess she's in the same boat to some degree and trying to decide. Her decision to marry Kelce actually makes me think she will have at least one kid because his family seems very family-oriented and he seems like the kind of guy would would not be content to just be DINKs forever. I bet they'll wind up with two kids unless the marriage blows up quickly.