MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives.

Statement from the young man in the photos, everyone should read:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

[Anonymous]

I'll do this when you champion no longer charging anyone under the age of 18 as an adult or kicking them out of school for egregious behaviors. We should also change the driving age and the age at which you can join the military since we're not going to assume that anyone under 18 isn't capable of being held responsible for his or her actions.

"Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives. "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives.

Statement from the young man in the photos, everyone should read:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

It's a statement by the PR firm. We all read it. He claims he was praying. He lies.

[Anonymous]

Shhhh. You aren't peddling the correct angle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives.

Statement from the young man in the photos, everyone should read:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

It's a statement by the PR firm. We all read it. He claims he was praying. He lies.

The PR firms spins, and less so than many of the left-wing idiots on social media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds the black Israelites were the vile actors.

I've posted before, and I grew up in and live in the area where the school is. I've readthis boy's account. Here's my ongoing problem, and why even as I Catholic there is no way I would pay for the "privilege" of sendi g my kid to this school.

Most attendees of this school are white. Many are extremely wealthy. Our area is heavily segregated by both race/ethnicity and class. These kids grow up in a bubble of white privilege, as their parents and grandparents before them. They have very little life experience with people who aren't like them. Even their adult chaperones are utterly ill-equipped to know how to handle encounters with the likes of the Black Hebrew Israelites, which anyone who has ever lived in a diverse city ( I have) would know. I believe the kid when he says the chaperone gave them permission to do their school chants - an utterly ignorant way to deal with people like the BHI. People who have lived in cities would know that you ignore crazy and walk away. No doubt these kids and the adults with them think most black people are like BHI, because they have almost zero experience to the contrary.

So they are supposed to allow themselves to be driven away from a national monument on their one chance to see it because a few BHI cultists are screaming abuse at them for no reason? That's totally unreasonable. And what grounds do you have to say that these people believe that "most black people are like BHI", aside from just projecting your own ungrounded racial prejudices and stereotypes at these young people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives.

Statement from the young man in the photos, everyone should read:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

Yeah I read it and posted about it a couple of pages ago. I have lived with people line this kid and his parents for a good portion of my life. I agree we don't need to ruin the kids' lives. They are a product of their environment. They have a lot to learn about the world and very few who are equipped to or interested in teaching them. They will go to state U, go into some kind of business, get married and buy a house 10 mins from where they grew up, and the cycle will continue. This area breeds zero curiosity in many of its residents....most kids are sheltered and clueless about the world outside of 15 square miles surrounding their house.

[Anonymous]

You seriously think it's wrong for people to want to hold kids responsible "ruin their lives" via social media and any other means when they engage in horrific behaviors? I stand with the victims, not the perps.

https://fox17.com/news/nation-world/4-maryland-jv-football-players-charged-as-adults-with-rape-in-alleged-broomstick-hazing

[Anonymous]

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The Catholic Church needs to rethink the idea of using teenagers to advance a political position.

In fact, they might rethink all of their political activism. Other churches should do the same. It's fine to have moral positions, but this kind of activism is not in the interest of the either the church or the government. Maybe they are starting to get it.

Area poster here. Yes, this is why I refuse to send my kid to Catholic HS, especially around here. They already had my grade schooler praying the rosary for life at school last week - totally not cool IMO since he is very young amnd rightfully has no opinions - informed or otherwise - on reproductive issues. Nor does the school teach a consistent life ethic curriculum. I have to do that at home and will be keeping my kid home from now on when they do these kind of politically minded stunts during school hours.

So you send your kid to Catholic school and are surprised the schools are pro life?

[Anonymous]

Responsible for what? Standing where they want to on public property. Don't like it, too bad.

Your safe spaces don't count here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people here are parents. We ought to oppose on principle attempts to ruin young peoples' lives for political/publicity gain and obviously especially so when those efforts involve misrepresenting actions and taking them out of context. We ought to oppose them when they involve white kids and when they involve minority kids. The most shameful thing about this incident was not the behavior of the kids but the numerous adults who raced to try to destroy these kids lives.

Statement from the young man in the photos, everyone should read:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/us/covington-kentucky-student-statement/index.html

It's a statement by the PR firm. We all read it. He claims he was praying. He lies.

The PR firms spins, and less so than many of the left-wing idiots on social media.

That kid was praying and I am POTUS. Give me a break. They were disrespectful at best and yes, they were mocking Phillips.

If he had come out and had apologized for their disrespectful sneering and chanting, I would've accepted that and moved on. There is not one hint of personal responsibility in that. Much like your president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds the black Israelites were the vile actors.

I've posted before, and I grew up in and live in the area where the school is. I've readthis boy's account. Here's my ongoing problem, and why even as I Catholic there is no way I would pay for the "privilege" of sendi g my kid to this school.

Most attendees of this school are white. Many are extremely wealthy. Our area is heavily segregated by both race/ethnicity and class. These kids grow up in a bubble of white privilege, as their parents and grandparents before them. They have very little life experience with people who aren't like them. Even their adult chaperones are utterly ill-equipped to know how to handle encounters with the likes of the Black Hebrew Israelites, which anyone who has ever lived in a diverse city ( I have) would know. I believe the kid when he says the chaperone gave them permission to do their school chants - an utterly ignorant way to deal with people like the BHI. People who have lived in cities would know that you ignore crazy and walk away. No doubt these kids and the adults with them think most black people are like BHI, because they have almost zero experience to the contrary.

So they are supposed to allow themselves to be driven away from a national monument on their one chance to see it because a few BHI cultists are screaming abuse at them for no reason? That's totally unreasonable. And what grounds do you have to say that these people believe that "most black people are like BHI", aside from just projecting your own ungrounded racial prejudices and stereotypes at these young people?

Yes. Yes. Yes.

The adults are supposed to have a clue. These kids are mainly rich - I know, I live here. They can go back anytime - the monuments aren't going anywhere and 16 yo boys don't give a fig about them anyway. Give me a big fat break.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The black Israelites were AWFUL. That's what should be in the news

Nobody denies that. That has nothing with the teens mocking a Native American elderly man.

Who CHOSE to get in their face. Please include that part. It's important.

He didn't, he walked through their crowd. There were 100 of them, and 4 Native Americans. He was not a threat.

He was in no way a threat. But he walked right up to them, and got in their face, playing the drums. He was way too close in terms of personal space. It is hard to understand what he did as a gesture intended to calm things down.

It is completely inaccurate to say that the boys refused to get out of his way. And if you feel the boys were mocking his music, at least admit that he approached them.

Approach? Yes. "Got in their face?" Um, no. There were a handful of tribe members and a large crowd of boys. So, you are right he was no threat.
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The boy's reaction: stopped, staring at him, inches from his face, while his classmates were yelling, laughing, etc. You think that's a normal reaction? You'd be ok with that if someone on the street did that to you? Doubtful.

Who walked over to who?

Who was smirking and mocking the other? Phillips had every right to walk up those steps to complete his march. The lengths the MAGA folks will go to defend their bigotry continues to astound.

Nathan Phillips did not walk up the steps to complete his march.
Nathan Phillips walked around, ignoring the open steps, and then decided the best thing to do was push his way through a group of kids.

That IS NOT "walking up the steps to complete his march"
Nathan Phillips is deliberately ignoring his purported objective and seeking a confrontation.

Nathan Phillips was being an a@@^((#@, like the people in cars who deliberately drive through slush puddles to spray everyone waiting at the bus stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds the black Israelites were the vile actors.

I've posted before, and I grew up in and live in the area where the school is. I've readthis boy's account. Here's my ongoing problem, and why even as I Catholic there is no way I would pay for the "privilege" of sendi g my kid to this school.

Most attendees of this school are white. Many are extremely wealthy. Our area is heavily segregated by both race/ethnicity and class. These kids grow up in a bubble of white privilege, as their parents and grandparents before them. They have very little life experience with people who aren't like them. Even their adult chaperones are utterly ill-equipped to know how to handle encounters with the likes of the Black Hebrew Israelites, which anyone who has ever lived in a diverse city ( I have) would know. I believe the kid when he says the chaperone gave them permission to do their school chants - an utterly ignorant way to deal with people like the BHI. People who have lived in cities would know that you ignore crazy and walk away. No doubt these kids and the adults with them think most black people are like BHI, because they have almost zero experience to the contrary.

So they are supposed to allow themselves to be driven away from a national monument on their one chance to see it because a few BHI cultists are screaming abuse at them for no reason? That's totally unreasonable. And what grounds do you have to say that these people believe that "most black people are like BHI", aside from just projecting your own ungrounded racial prejudices and stereotypes at these young people?

Yes. Yes. Yes.

The adults are supposed to have a clue. These kids are mainly rich - I know, I live here. They can go back anytime - the monuments aren't going anywhere and 16 yo boys don't give a fig about them anyway. Give me a big fat break.

PS - I am white and grew up ib the area, so there goes your racial stereotypes bullshit. My kid goes to school with futiue Cov Cath students and I already see this garbage in their parents who I grew up with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The black Israelites were AWFUL. That's what should be in the news

Nobody denies that. That has nothing with the teens mocking a Native American elderly man.

Who CHOSE to get in their face. Please include that part. It's important.

He didn't, he walked through their crowd. There were 100 of them, and 4 Native Americans. He was not a threat.

He was in no way a threat. But he walked right up to them, and got in their face, playing the drums. He was way too close in terms of personal space. It is hard to understand what he did as a gesture intended to calm things down.

It is completely inaccurate to say that the boys refused to get out of his way. And if you feel the boys were mocking his music, at least admit that he approached them.

Approach? Yes. "Got in their face?" Um, no. There were a handful of tribe members and a large crowd of boys. So, you are right he was no threat.
It
The boy's reaction: stopped, staring at him, inches from his face, while his classmates were yelling, laughing, etc. You think that's a normal reaction? You'd be ok with that if someone on the street did that to you? Doubtful.

Who walked over to who?

Who was smirking and mocking the other? Phillips had every right to walk up those steps to complete his march. The lengths the MAGA folks will go to defend their bigotry continues to astound.

Nathan Phillips did not walk up the steps to complete his march.
Nathan Phillips walked around, ignoring the open steps, and then decided the best thing to do was push his way through a group of kids.

That IS NOT "walking up the steps to complete his march"
Nathan Phillips is deliberately ignoring his purported objective and seeking a confrontation.

Nathan Phillips was being an a@@^((#@, like the people in cars who deliberately drive through slush puddles to spray everyone waiting at the bus stop.

I'm sorry? Was he required to "complete his march?" If he was being an ass, what are your thoughts on the kids and their mock tribal chant and Tomahawk movements? Because that was FAR worse.