Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Is someone going to give an analysis of him in the same way this person is doing of her? This is a long, bad assessment of her personality, and it can certainly make everyone dislike her and blame her for things. I bet he is enjoying this excoriation a LOT. Was there/will there be similar psychological examination of him?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of Heard’s other exes came forward with stories of abuse? I know people are pointing to a lack of Depp’s exes with similar stories and I want to know if it’s the same for Heard

She was arrested in 2009 for abusing her wife:

Was Amber Heard accused of domestic violence before?

In 2009, the Port of Seattle Police arrested Amber Heard after her girlfriend, Tasya van Ree, got into an argument at an airport.

Heard was taken into custody and booked for a misdemeanor domestic violence after she allegedly struck Ree at the Seattle-Tacoma International airport.

Amber Heard's case was assigned to King County District Court in Seattle the next day after the incident.

Prosecutor declined to press charges against Heard.

GF repeatedly has come out to say incident was mischaracterized

"In 2009, Amber was wrongfully accused for an incident that was misinterpreted and over-sensationalized by two individuals in a powerful position," her statement, which was obtained by E! News, began.

"I recount hints of misogynistic attitudes toward us which alter appeared to be homophobic when they found out we were domestic partners and not just ‘friends.' Charges were quickly dropped and she was released moments later."

Ree continued, "It's disheartening that Amber's integrity and story are being questioned yet again. Amber is a brilliant, honest and beautiful woman and I have the utmost respect for her. We shared 5 wonderful years together and remain close to this day."

https://www.eonline.com/news/771257/amber-heard-s-ex-girlfriend-tasya-van-ree-speaks-out-following-domestic-abuse-allegations

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of Heard’s other exes came forward with stories of abuse? I know people are pointing to a lack of Depp’s exes with similar stories and I want to know if it’s the same for Heard

Amber Heard's ex gf has spoken out in her defense. Elon Musk and James Franco are testifying for her at the trial. There was some incident with the GF at an airport where someone grabbed someone else's arm but the girlfriend has come out and strenuously said that the incident has been mischaracterized

Are you sure they're on her witness list and not his?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of Heard’s other exes came forward with stories of abuse? I know people are pointing to a lack of Depp’s exes with similar stories and I want to know if it’s the same for Heard

Amber Heard's ex gf has spoken out in her defense. Elon Musk and James Franco are testifying for her at the trial. There was some incident with the GF at an airport where someone grabbed someone else's arm but the girlfriend has come out and strenuously said that the incident has been mischaracterized

Are you sure they're on her witness list and not his?

Someone posted early in the thread that they read through all the filings and both were on Amber’s witness list.

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We’re all JDs audio evidence included in the London trial? Trying to figure out what evidence is new from the last trial.

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Anonymous wrote:Is someone going to give an analysis of him in the same way this person is doing of her? This is a long, bad assessment of her personality, and it can certainly make everyone dislike her and blame her for things. I bet he is enjoying this excoriation a LOT. Was there/will there be similar psychological examination of him?

No. The reason she got the evaluation and not him is because she herself said she suffered from PTSD because of Depp’s abuse (in her countersuit). She opened herself up to it.

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This court case is such a teachable moment for our young people.

It is really important that our youth, especially our young women, to hear the message that whenever there is a messy toxic relationship, we can oversimplify and lay all the blame at the clay feet of the women. Especially if the male member of the messy marriage was twice the age of the young woman involved, and consumed an entire pharmacy worth of drugs and alcohol. I worry that the fragile self worth of men in recovery from substance abuse cycles will be endangered unless women are accorded all blame for any mutual Abuse. We should only have compassion for men in mutually Abusive relationships so that patriarchal mind sets and status quo can be preserved for future generations. We really have to think ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This court case is such a teachable moment for our young people.

It is really important that our youth, especially our young women, to hear the message that whenever there is a messy toxic relationship, we can oversimplify and lay all the blame at the clay feet of the women. Especially if the male member of the messy marriage was twice the age of the young woman involved, and consumed an entire pharmacy worth of drugs and alcohol. I worry that the fragile self worth of men in recovery from substance abuse cycles will be endangered unless women are accorded all blame for any mutual Abuse. We should only have compassion for men in mutually Abusive relationships so that patriarchal mind sets and status quo can be preserved for future generations. We really have to think ahead.

Weak trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:This court case is such a teachable moment for our young people.

It is really important that our youth, especially our young women, to hear the message that whenever there is a messy toxic relationship, we can oversimplify and lay all the blame at the clay feet of the women. Especially if the male member of the messy marriage was twice the age of the young woman involved, and consumed an entire pharmacy worth of drugs and alcohol. I worry that the fragile self worth of men in recovery from substance abuse cycles will be endangered unless women are accorded all blame for any mutual Abuse. We should only have compassion for men in mutually Abusive relationships so that patriarchal mind sets and status quo can be preserved for future generations. We really have to think ahead.

Weak trolling.

I think it was sarcasm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This court case is such a teachable moment for our young people.

It is really important that our youth, especially our young women, to hear the message that whenever there is a messy toxic relationship, we can oversimplify and lay all the blame at the clay feet of the women. Especially if the male member of the messy marriage was twice the age of the young woman involved, and consumed an entire pharmacy worth of drugs and alcohol. I worry that the fragile self worth of men in recovery from substance abuse cycles will be endangered unless women are accorded all blame for any mutual Abuse. We should only have compassion for men in mutually Abusive relationships so that patriarchal mind sets and status quo can be preserved for future generations. We really have to think ahead.

Weak trolling.

I think it was sarcasm

Amen

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There both clearly addicts and had issues. But I actually believe she is the one who has the anger issues but it's difficult for media and social perception to accept a woman as an abuser. It happens and we need to accept it.

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Anonymous wrote:What does amber being abusive have to do with the trial? Isn’t his contention that she lied in the op Ed and it cost him opportunities?

As has been said in the thread repeatedly, he is going forward with this case to expose her behavior. It’s not about the story that she wrote.

That’s not a cause of action though. If he wanted to expose her actions he could’ve written a book or an article.

Or sat down with a new outlet. All those would have paid him rather than the millions he's paying.

This whole thing smacks of trying to punish his ex (who has to accrue her own legal fees) and it's not a good look.

A book or an interview doesn’t require her to answer his claims. Dragging it out in court makes her have to defend herself.

A bit of a Pyrrhic victory though. These trials have confirmed he cheated on Vanessa with this nut and he’s on a seemingly un-hireable amount of drugs.

She's also a cheater and did a lot of drugs and alcohol.

You have zero proof of that. She has proof that he's an addict. Like when he tried to argue that she had an affair with James franco because they were in the elevator together and the guy has an apartment in the same building.

Really? Is the CCTV camera footage from their penthouse not enough for you? She goes downstairs to let James Franco in and they both exit at the penthouse that Depp owns in LA.

Do you think Franco was just coming over for a game of Scrabble?

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I think that psychologist diagnosed me with abandonment issues! She’s describing a lot of me- woah! Obviously except for the violence and hitting.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just at a party and people started talking about the trial.

Everyone was sympathetic to Johnny and thought Amber was lying. Men and women alike.

To me, It shows how we are all socialized to be more sympathetic to protecting men’s feelings and dignity than women’s. They both behaved badly but she is being blamed for everything in the toxic relationship. He was twice her age when they met, consumed mind boggling amounts of alcohol and drugs for decades, and is not taking any responsibility for his part in the mess. He had other ways of redressing his sense of being wronged than dragging them both through a public trial.

I am arguing with my teenage daughter trying to get her to see how unfair it is to blame everything on Amber. DD and her friends think Amber is to blame for ruining his illustrious career while I believe he did that in his own. Amber’s career and reputation has been savaged as well. DD tells me that the internet is siding with Johnny.

The world wants a villain (preferably female), while shared culpability, pesky details and nuance just get get in the way of one sided story telling.

I disagree. We are only now hearing Depp’s side of things while Amber’s take has been out there for over 5 years. This is the first time people really got the opportunity to compare what went on in that relationship from both Amber and Jonny’s perspective.

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They’re both nuts. No one heard Depp’s side up until now.

What are you talking about Twitter has been pushing Depp's side for months. I agree with the other PP that its revolting people are acting like he's an innocent. AT BEST he is a drunken drug addict who left the mother of his children to date a hot crazy chick in her 20s and engaged in a mutually abusive relationship with her. That is the BEST possible interpretation of his behavior.

Only the red pillers are supporting him.

Who knew there were so many female red pillers People support him because he's open about his lifestyle and addictions, he seems genuine. People don't support Amber because she presents herself as a morally superior victim, who was calculated enough to escalate arguments and put her camera and audio on.

Most women support Amber, only frustrated men support him. And woman red pillar is an oxymoron -we don't fantasize and plan regulation that would make rape legal on our property, which is a fundamental view of the red pillers. We're not desperate and frustrated if we don't have sex and we don't think we're entitled to sex just because we demand it.

I don’t think most women support Amber.

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Agree.

I certainly don’t and aside from this anonymous board, every other social media thread I have read supports Johnny Depp and not Amber Heard.

I think you misunderstood. That’s what I was saying.

So what? The trial is about whether Amber Heard was legitimately abused and therefore had a right to write her op ed. This trial lays bare that she was abused by a drug addicted alcoholic. Yes, she sucks but that’s not the point.

Nothing I heard so far "lays bare" that she was abused.

I don’t see proof she was abused. In the secret video she took in the kitchen, Depp is smashing the kitchen. Is it stupid and immature? Yes. But I don’t see him hitting her.

Also she lied and said she used makeup/concealer and carried it everywhere when that brand didn’t even exist back then.

I watched some of the UK deposition and she is eating cookies and chewing through it. That looked off to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is someone going to give an analysis of him in the same way this person is doing of her? This is a long, bad assessment of her personality, and it can certainly make everyone dislike her and blame her for things. I bet he is enjoying this excoriation a LOT. Was there/will there be similar psychological examination of him?

No. The reason she got the evaluation and not him is because she herself said she suffered from PTSD because of Depp’s abuse (in her countersuit). She opened herself up to it.

Didn't this psychologist say that his attorneys contacted her to do the eval? Why would Heard have to submit to an eval from Depp's selected expert? It's her burden to establish the PTSD in a counterclaim. Then Depp could have a counter expert challenging the opinion of her expert. But how do you get a party in a civil case to do in-person evals with your own expert?