Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she lied about being abused, used someone else's story of abuse, and made a mockery of the Me Too movement.

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she’s a woman who dared to speak up about being abused by a high-profile, popular man.

Because she’s a proven, repeated liar who thought she could exploit the metoo movement for her own financial gain.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she’s a woman who dared to speak up about being abused by a high-profile, popular man.

Because she’s a proven, repeated liar who thought she could exploit the metoo movement for her own financial gain.

This.

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Ben Chew and Camille Vasquez will be on the Today show tomorrow per NBC Nightly News. JD also released a TikTok today apparently

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she lied about being abused, used someone else's story of abuse, and made a mockery of the Me Too movement.

Yeah, that.

It isn't that she isn't a "perfect victim" as some state here. She has made a mockery out of actual victims.

My brother was a DV victim. Amber Heard reminds me very much of my former SIL. Right down to secretly recording and trying to goad him into a fight. She also claimed makeup covered the bruises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ben Chew and Camille Vasquez will be on the Today show tomorrow per NBC Nightly News. JD also released a TikTok today apparently

Inspiring people...

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Anonymous wrote:For those who believe the jury got it wrong, do you not believe in the US justice system? What would you change?

Everything. How can we believe in a justice system that denies us the right to abortion? Tl out rights? That vilifies a woman and is a misogynist? He used the old, she is a crazy, hysterical woman defense and it worked in 2022!
All I got from this is that men can still and do still get away with abusing women, calling us crazy, hysterical, talk about the yellow wallpaper. The fact that this trial even happened is an appalling lack of justice system. Notice that a judge in England did not put up with his BS?
This was a witch trial, no doubt about it. I would like to have a justice system that is not a witch trial

I agree but what specific aspects can be changes that are realistic ?

For me:
Requiring domestic violence cases decided by jury to have at least half the jurors be female
Requiring jurors to stay awake and provide notes at the end of each day to show they grasped basic content
Restrictions on Character assassinations of women in rape and domestic violence cases
Cases involving POC requiring jury to have at least half POC

Probably many more and will need to think about it but those modest reforms could help quite a lot.

Then you need to head on over to Off Topic and General Parenting and condemn every woman who posts about how to get out of jury duty because she can’t serve as a SAHM with no childcare. You can’t get to a 50% jury if there are not enough candidates.

Why do you sssume they are women?

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she’s a woman who dared to speak up about being abused by a high-profile, popular man.

Plus one

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Anonymous wrote:For those who believe the jury got it wrong, do you not believe in the US justice system? What would you change?

Everything. How can we believe in a justice system that denies us the right to abortion? Tl out rights? That vilifies a woman and is a misogynist? He used the old, she is a crazy, hysterical woman defense and it worked in 2022!
All I got from this is that men can still and do still get away with abusing women, calling us crazy, hysterical, talk about the yellow wallpaper. The fact that this trial even happened is an appalling lack of justice system. Notice that a judge in England did not put up with his BS?
This was a witch trial, no doubt about it. I would like to have a justice system that is not a witch trial

I agree but what specific aspects can be changes that are realistic ?

For me:
Requiring domestic violence cases decided by jury to have at least half the jurors be female
Requiring jurors to stay awake and provide notes at the end of each day to show they grasped basic content
Restrictions on Character assassinations of women in rape and domestic violence cases
Cases involving POC requiring jury to have at least half POC

Probably many more and will need to think about it but those modest reforms could help quite a lot.

I honestly don't think this is a necessity. Women are known to be more critical of other women. Men tend to feel bad and might be more reticent to give a verdict against females for fear of being labeled sexist. I think that's why AH's team was okay with that gender imbalance in the jury box. Her team might also be worried about women jurors succumbing to JD's charms.

It is common sense that overall, one would expect women to have more empathy towards victims of rape and domestic violence and there are studies to that effect. Further jury selection should rule out anyone of either gender who buys into rape myths.

Jury Selection in Adult Victim Sexual Assault (NIH study)

Jurors’ Beliefs in Rape Myths
Less favorable attitudes toward rape victims in general were significantly associated with:
• Being male
• Lower income
• Political conservatism

Gender Role Stereotypes
 Hostility toward women, subscribing to other oppressive belief systems, and being male are all strongly correlated to rape myth acceptance.
(Gadalla, forthcoming, 2010)
 Gender is correlated with acceptance of rape myths. Men are more likely to be accepting of rape myths.

https://www.doj.nh.gov/criminal/victim-assistance/documents/2-jury-selection.pdf

ONS, 2020B) One study of 96 cases of domestic abuse recorded by the police found that men are significantly more likely to be repeat perpetrators and significantly more likely than women to use physical violence, threats, and harassment.


Also male and female Domestic violence have different overall patterns although both are terrible.

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/

There are important differences between male violence against women and female violence against men, namely the amount, severity and impact. Women experience higher rates of repeated victimisation and are much more likely to be seriously hurt (Walby & Towers, 2017; Walby & Allen, 2004) or killed than male victims of domestic abuse (ONS, 2020A; ONS, 2020B).

Further to that, women are more likely to experience higher levels of fear and are more likely to be subjected to coercive and controlling behaviours (Dobash & Dobash, 2004; Hester, 2013; Myhill, 2015; Myhill, 2017).

If something good can come out of this tawdry spectacle, it would be jury reform … gender balance for DV cases and POC balance for cases involving POC - especially potential death penalty cases since POC are much more likely that white people to be executed …

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Anonymous wrote:Sad and pathetic how women are tearing down a victim of domestic violence for not being a perfect victim.
Plus, the selective process many of you go through! She admitted to hitting him. She is horrible! We believe that part.
She said he raped her with a bottle, we don't believe that part, but we believe her that she hit him (back, she hit him back...but we don't believe she hit him back, she just hit him!)
Narcists and his flying monkey, I love how you all are his flying monkeys!

She’s not a victim. That’s 100% the point. She clearly made this up, using the pain of real victims of SV and DV (like myself btw) to raise her profile. She has done the damage. Period. I could not care less about Johnny Depp. But I’m pissed at a women who would make up abuse.

^i concur. You and I are metoo, or AH.she tried to use metoo for her own selfish advantage. She was a mutual abuser.

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Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

Because she’s a woman who dared to speak up about being abused by a high-profile, popular man.

Plus one

Yes, and you're clearly both people who did not watch the entire trial- or you would know that this is nonsense. Heard was clearly shown to be someone who manufactured this DV claim and lied repeatedly. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could someone please summarize why Amber Heard is so loathed? I cannot comb through this entire cesspool!

She’s a liar who set the DV and Metoo issues backwards.