Iraqi man dies after Trump administration deports him

[jsteele]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/iraqi-man-dies-deportation-trump-administration-1643512

The Trump administration's brain dead immigration policies have just killed a man:

"Edward Bajoka, an immigration attorney who described himself as close to Aldaoud’s family, wrote on Facebook that the death appeared to be linked to the man’s inability to obtain insulin in Baghdad to treat his diabetes."

"Aldaoud was an Iraqi national, but he was born in Greece and came to the U.S. as a young child, his family friend said. He had never lived in Iraq and did not speak Arabic, according to Bajoka."

For what it is worth, this man was a Chaldean Catholic. Just to reiterate, he had never lived in Iraq, did not speak Arabic, and had a live-threatening disease. But Trump had him deported.

[Anonymous]

It's sad that he passed away.

I don't believe this attorney is sharing the whole story.

This, a Detroit story from 2012. Seems to be the same person

Police in Ferndale say they arrested a homeless man who broke into a residential garage and stole power tools.

Police say 34-year-old Jimmy Aldaoud was arrested on around 3 a.m. Tuesday at a home on Wordsworth Street near West End Street.

According to police, the homeowner called them to report suspicious activity after he heard his garage door opening and closing and noticed the garage light was on. Responding officers saw Aldaoud walking with a large bag about two blocks away from the home. After stopping him, police found Aldaoud had three stolen cordless drills in the bag.


Police think Aldaoud broke into an unlocked vehicle outside of the home and found the garage door opener, which he used to open the door and then make entry.

Police say Aldaoud has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1998, which includes crimes of theft, disorderly conduct and resisting police.

Police are also investigating whether Aldaoud is responsible for stealing items from several unlocked cars in the neighborhood where he was arrested.

The case has been submitted to the Oakland County Prosecutor for a warrant. Aldaoud will likely be arraigned Tuesday afternoon.

https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/04/10/homeless-man-arrested-for-stealing-power-tools-from-garage/

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that he passed away.

I don't believe this attorney is sharing the whole story.

This, a Detroit story from 2012. Seems to be the same person

I don't know if that is the same guy, but let's say it is. Do we now impose the death penalty for petty theft? Surely there was a better option than sending him to Iraq. Ironically, many conservatives claim to champion Iraqi Christians due to the prejudice the often face in today's Iraq. Now 1,000 of them or so are awaiting deportation.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that he passed away.

I don't believe this attorney is sharing the whole story.

This, a Detroit story from 2012. Seems to be the same person

I don't know if that is the same guy, but let's say it is. Do we now impose the death penalty for petty theft? Surely there was a better option than sending him to Iraq. Ironically, many conservatives claim to champion Iraqi Christians due to the prejudice the often face in today's Iraq. Now 1,000 of them or so are awaiting deportation.

What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

What part don't you believe? You don't believe he died? You don't believe he was deported? Obviously you are suggesting that he deserved to be deported to a dangerous country in which he has never lived and in which he would not have access to proper healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that he passed away.

I don't believe this attorney is sharing the whole story.

This, a Detroit story from 2012. Seems to be the same person

I don't know if that is the same guy, but let's say it is. Do we now impose the death penalty for petty theft? Surely there was a better option than sending him to Iraq. Ironically, many conservatives claim to champion Iraqi Christians due to the prejudice the often face in today's Iraq. Now 1,000 of them or so are awaiting deportation.

What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

NP. Seems pretty straightforward. Many people were allowed to stay if they weren't violent criminals, even if they had no "reason" to be allowed to stay. Trump changed that practice. Remove everyone who doesn't have a reason to be allowed to stay, regardless of their circumstances.

Obama's policy seemed more rational to me, but was just as capricious as Trump's. Ultimately, this is Congress's fault.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

What part don't you believe? You don't believe he died? You don't believe he was deported? Obviously you are suggesting that he deserved to be deported to a dangerous country in which he has never lived and in which he would not have access to proper healthcare.

I wonder if he was really Christian. I wonder if he was really diabetic. I wonder when he really arrived here. I wonder a lot of things.
Was he here illegally? If so, he should have been deported years ago.
This is the issue with illegally immigration as we have it now. People become outraged when people who have recently arrived are deported. But, when they are here for a period of time, they then get outraged that they are deported because they have been here so long.

This is why we have to get a handle on illegal immigration. Fix the laws. Enforce the ones we have.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/07/iraqi-man-dies-deportation-trump-administration-1643512

The Trump administration's brain dead immigration policies have just killed a man:

"Edward Bajoka, an immigration attorney who described himself as close to Aldaoud’s family, wrote on Facebook that the death appeared to be linked to the man’s inability to obtain insulin in Baghdad to treat his diabetes."

"Aldaoud was an Iraqi national, but he was born in Greece and came to the U.S. as a young child, his family friend said. He had never lived in Iraq and did not speak Arabic, according to Bajoka."

For what it is worth, this man was a Chaldean Catholic. Just to reiterate, he had never lived in Iraq, did not speak Arabic, and had a live-threatening disease. But Trump had him deported.

Curious what your immigration policy would be, if you could design your own.

As a side, when my immigrant father wanted to invite his sister for a year, he had to prove he had enough cash in the bank that would cover the medical bills for the worst possible accident if she got hurt. And he swore that she would leave after the 12 months. Perhaps they were victims of discrimination because of their country of origin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

What part don't you believe? You don't believe he died? You don't believe he was deported? Obviously you are suggesting that he deserved to be deported to a dangerous country in which he has never lived and in which he would not have access to proper healthcare.

I wonder if he was really Christian. I wonder if he was really diabetic. I wonder when he really arrived here. I wonder a lot of things.
Was he here illegally? If so, he should have been deported years ago.
This is the issue with illegally immigration as we have it now. People become outraged when people who have recently arrived are deported. But, when they are here for a period of time, they then get outraged that they are deported because they have been here so long.

This is why we have to get a handle on illegal immigration. Fix the laws. Enforce the ones we have.

Muslims do not name their children “Edward” FYI. Although I guess you think it doesn’t matter that he died regardless.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why this would be the US's fault. Do other countries have no responsibility towards their own citizens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why this would be the US's fault. Do other countries have no responsibility towards their own citizens?

To a foreign born person who doesn't speak the language? Oftentimes, they don't bother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why this would be the US's fault. Do other countries have no responsibility towards their own citizens?

To a foreign born person who doesn't speak the language? Oftentimes, they don't bother.

How was he an Iraqi national? Surely it's not something random his parents decided would be a good idea. They must have some connection to the place in which he holds citizenship.

At any rate, not really the US citizens concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why this would be the US's fault. Do other countries have no responsibility towards their own citizens?

To a foreign born person who doesn't speak the language? Oftentimes, they don't bother.

^^^ Adding, in some countries, there's a stigma to these people. They are not considered locals or real citizens, they may be distrusted as spies from the US or just as outsiders.

I know of plenty of stories of these deported people quickly meeting their fate in their "home" country. Effectively they were killed by our policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I am saying is I'm not sure we have the entire story.
In other words, I don't believe everything this immigration attorney has said.

What part don't you believe? You don't believe he died? You don't believe he was deported? Obviously you are suggesting that he deserved to be deported to a dangerous country in which he has never lived and in which he would not have access to proper healthcare.

I wonder if he was really Christian. I wonder if he was really diabetic. I wonder when he really arrived here. I wonder a lot of things.
Was he here illegally? If so, he should have been deported years ago.
This is the issue with illegally immigration as we have it now. People become outraged when people who have recently arrived are deported. But, when they are here for a period of time, they then get outraged that they are deported because they have been here so long.

This is why we have to get a handle on illegal immigration. Fix the laws. Enforce the ones we have.

Muslims do not name their children “Edward” FYI. Although I guess you think it doesn’t matter that he died regardless.

I didn't say he was Muslim. He could be atheist for all we know.

[Anonymous]

Seems like verifiable facts would be helpful, before we jump to blame Trump for yet something else.
Or maybe it’s just a good time to blame him for every bad thing in the world.