Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. I don't know where they're going with this, unless it's just to as a morale booster for them, and a trust killer for Russians. Ukrainians cannot hope to hold any asset for long, because they do not have the manpower to secure a supply line from Ukraine. They can disable a power plant, and then leave the mess for Russians to sort through, while they rush back to Ukraine. It would still be a big blow to Russian vanity and sense of security.



It is not going to go anywhere. Zelnsky still has no plan and no strategy other than money laundering.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. I don't know where they're going with this, unless it's just to as a morale booster for them, and a trust killer for Russians. Ukrainians cannot hope to hold any asset for long, because they do not have the manpower to secure a supply line from Ukraine. They can disable a power plant, and then leave the mess for Russians to sort through, while they rush back to Ukraine. It would still be a big blow to Russian vanity and sense of security.



This will accelerate the end of the war one way or another. From what's becoming available, Ukraine stripped the other fronts to make this happen. This is basically a modern Tet Offensive. They may be willing to suffer massive losses in an attempt to demoralize Russia. I don't think its going to work, but they don't have many other options.


Sure Russia can not move troops without suffering extreme high loses. You have no clue what is going on.
Anonymous
I have so much respect for the Ukrainians!
Anonymous
I think there will be revenge for the incursion and I feel bad for the civilians
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. I don't know where they're going with this, unless it's just to as a morale booster for them, and a trust killer for Russians. Ukrainians cannot hope to hold any asset for long, because they do not have the manpower to secure a supply line from Ukraine. They can disable a power plant, and then leave the mess for Russians to sort through, while they rush back to Ukraine. It would still be a big blow to Russian vanity and sense of security.



This will accelerate the end of the war one way or another. From what's becoming available, Ukraine stripped the other fronts to make this happen. This is basically a modern Tet Offensive. They may be willing to suffer massive losses in an attempt to demoralize Russia. I don't think its going to work, but they don't have many other options.


Sure Russia can not move troops without suffering extreme high loses. You have no clue what is going on.


Now that some of the fog of war is lifting its looking like this was brilliant on the tactical level, dubious on the strategic level and a complete fail at the logistical level. It sounds like the goal was the Kursk NPP, and to use it as a bargaining chip in negotiations. And while they were able to take the border guards by surprise, they didn't have the logistics to get anywhere near the NPP with forces that could hold anything. Now they're hunkering down a few KM over the border, while the other fronts continue crumbling.

Was this the last hurrah, or does Ukraine have something left up their sleeves?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. I don't know where they're going with this, unless it's just to as a morale booster for them, and a trust killer for Russians. Ukrainians cannot hope to hold any asset for long, because they do not have the manpower to secure a supply line from Ukraine. They can disable a power plant, and then leave the mess for Russians to sort through, while they rush back to Ukraine. It would still be a big blow to Russian vanity and sense of security.



This will accelerate the end of the war one way or another. From what's becoming available, Ukraine stripped the other fronts to make this happen. This is basically a modern Tet Offensive. They may be willing to suffer massive losses in an attempt to demoralize Russia. I don't think its going to work, but they don't have many other options.


Sure Russia can not move troops without suffering extreme high loses. You have no clue what is going on.


Now that some of the fog of war is lifting its looking like this was brilliant on the tactical level, dubious on the strategic level and a complete fail at the logistical level. It sounds like the goal was the Kursk NPP, and to use it as a bargaining chip in negotiations. And while they were able to take the border guards by surprise, they didn't have the logistics to get anywhere near the NPP with forces that could hold anything. Now they're hunkering down a few KM over the border, while the other fronts continue crumbling.

Was this the last hurrah, or does Ukraine have something left up their sleeves?


They have control over the Sudzha gas metering station which is the largest gas pipeline supplying Europe. They have control over a key rail station needed by the Russian army in their war effort. They have control over several main roads. And their advance is still continuing.

They have easily captured over 200 Russian POWs as well - and unlike the prior POWs who were mostly conscripted ethnic minorities from the poverty stricken backwaters of Ingushetia, Dagestan and elsewhere that nobody in Moscow or St. Petersburg cared about, many of these POWs are kids from the suburbs of Moscow that carry a whole lot more bargaining weight.

Latest I saw was that Alaudinov claiming his Akhmat special forces recaptured Martynovka, only to be followed by a video posted by Ukrainians in Martynovka showing dozens of captured Chechen POWs. Whoops. And whatever happened to the supposed elite VDV paratroopers and Wagner Group forces that we heard were being imminently dispatched to Kursk to wipe the Ukrainians out? No sign of them whatsoever. Lies from the regime? Or wiped out already?

Anonymous
Russia should get out of Ukraine. They are monsters for invading.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Russia should get out of Ukraine. They are monsters for invading.


No one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. You either project strength to stop it from happening in the first place or it happens. Again, no one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. Just like Joe Biden's "DON'T" campaign.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. I don't know where they're going with this, unless it's just to as a morale booster for them, and a trust killer for Russians. Ukrainians cannot hope to hold any asset for long, because they do not have the manpower to secure a supply line from Ukraine. They can disable a power plant, and then leave the mess for Russians to sort through, while they rush back to Ukraine. It would still be a big blow to Russian vanity and sense of security.



This will accelerate the end of the war one way or another. From what's becoming available, Ukraine stripped the other fronts to make this happen. This is basically a modern Tet Offensive. They may be willing to suffer massive losses in an attempt to demoralize Russia. I don't think its going to work, but they don't have many other options.


Sure Russia can not move troops without suffering extreme high loses. You have no clue what is going on.


Now that some of the fog of war is lifting its looking like this was brilliant on the tactical level, dubious on the strategic level and a complete fail at the logistical level. It sounds like the goal was the Kursk NPP, and to use it as a bargaining chip in negotiations. And while they were able to take the border guards by surprise, they didn't have the logistics to get anywhere near the NPP with forces that could hold anything. Now they're hunkering down a few KM over the border, while the other fronts continue crumbling.

Was this the last hurrah, or does Ukraine have something left up their sleeves?


They have control over the Sudzha gas metering station which is the largest gas pipeline supplying Europe. They have control over a key rail station needed by the Russian army in their war effort. They have control over several main roads. And their advance is still continuing.

They have easily captured over 200 Russian POWs as well - and unlike the prior POWs who were mostly conscripted ethnic minorities from the poverty stricken backwaters of Ingushetia, Dagestan and elsewhere that nobody in Moscow or St. Petersburg cared about, many of these POWs are kids from the suburbs of Moscow that carry a whole lot more bargaining weight.

Latest I saw was that Alaudinov claiming his Akhmat special forces recaptured Martynovka, only to be followed by a video posted by Ukrainians in Martynovka showing dozens of captured Chechen POWs. Whoops. And whatever happened to the supposed elite VDV paratroopers and Wagner Group forces that we heard were being imminently dispatched to Kursk to wipe the Ukrainians out? No sign of them whatsoever. Lies from the regime? Or wiped out already?




Putin has failed. He failed to protect Russia.

He should be overthrown.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Russia should get out of Ukraine. They are monsters for invading.


No one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. You either project strength to stop it from happening in the first place or it happens. Again, no one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. Just like Joe Biden's "DON'T" campaign.


Nonsense. Does Bhutan “project strength”? No. Is anyone invading Bhutan? Nope.

Does Russia “project strength”? Is anyone invading Russia? Yep!
Anonymous
Worst case scenario, Ukrainians simply melt back across the border with hundreds of POWs and captured equipment. And Russia is now forced to deploy significant forces to defend the border. Putin looks weak. The Russian people - particularly the 100,000 that have now fled - are finally made aware there's a war going on. And some of the pressure on places like Chaviv Yar, New York, and Vovchansk is removed because Russians are forced to redeploy to defend Russia itself.

Everything beyond that is gravy.

But I have the feeling there's more to come. Ukrainians have now taken more than 1000 sq km of Russia. For comparison, it took Russia 6 months and more than 100,000 casualties to take Bahkmut and Adviivka and expand their hold by a mere 200 sq km. And General Syrskyi is very good with deception and mobile warfare. The UAF has the advantage when it's on the move. And Russia itself is wide open for maneuvers - no minefields, no dialed in artillery, no trenches. It's a different war in Russia, one that suits Ukrainians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think there will be revenge for the incursion and I feel bad for the civilians


What is Putin going to do? Invade Ukraine?!? lol
Anonymous
Kursk will soon fall to Ukrainian forces.
Anonymous
First we take Kursk. Tomorrow, we take Moscow.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Worst case scenario, Ukrainians simply melt back across the border with hundreds of POWs and captured equipment. And Russia is now forced to deploy significant forces to defend the border. Putin looks weak. The Russian people - particularly the 100,000 that have now fled - are finally made aware there's a war going on. And some of the pressure on places like Chaviv Yar, New York, and Vovchansk is removed because Russians are forced to redeploy to defend Russia itself.

Everything beyond that is gravy.

But I have the feeling there's more to come. Ukrainians have now taken more than 1000 sq km of Russia. For comparison, it took Russia 6 months and more than 100,000 casualties to take Bahkmut and Adviivka and expand their hold by a mere 200 sq km. And General Syrskyi is very good with deception and mobile warfare. The UAF has the advantage when it's on the move. And Russia itself is wide open for maneuvers - no minefields, no dialed in artillery, no trenches. It's a different war in Russia, one that suits Ukrainians.


As far as we can tell, there have been minimal rotations by Russia, and other fronts continue to crumble. The UAF is also taking massive casualties on this operation. They simply don't have the logistics to sustain a deep push. Its apparent this is a bust now, but just like the "Counter Offensive" of last year, they will grind on long past the point of futility.

Speaking of which, imagine if they pulled this last year instead of tossing their army away? That might have actually been something to worry about.
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