Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia should get out of Ukraine. They are monsters for invading.


No one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. You either project strength to stop it from happening in the first place or it happens. Again, no one GAS about your opinion. It's worthless. Just like Joe Biden's "DON'T" campaign.


Nonsense. Does Bhutan “project strength”? No. Is anyone invading Bhutan? Nope.

Does Russia “project strength”? Is anyone invading Russia? Yep!


Exactly. Putin and his right-wing bullies are just as bad as Netanyahu and his right-wing bullies. They're all for stomping on their neighbors.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Worst case scenario, Ukrainians simply melt back across the border with hundreds of POWs and captured equipment. And Russia is now forced to deploy significant forces to defend the border. Putin looks weak. The Russian people - particularly the 100,000 that have now fled - are finally made aware there's a war going on. And some of the pressure on places like Chaviv Yar, New York, and Vovchansk is removed because Russians are forced to redeploy to defend Russia itself.

Everything beyond that is gravy.

But I have the feeling there's more to come. Ukrainians have now taken more than 1000 sq km of Russia. For comparison, it took Russia 6 months and more than 100,000 casualties to take Bahkmut and Adviivka and expand their hold by a mere 200 sq km. And General Syrskyi is very good with deception and mobile warfare. The UAF has the advantage when it's on the move. And Russia itself is wide open for maneuvers - no minefields, no dialed in artillery, no trenches. It's a different war in Russia, one that suits Ukrainians.


As far as we can tell, there have been minimal rotations by Russia, and other fronts continue to crumble. The UAF is also taking massive casualties on this operation. They simply don't have the logistics to sustain a deep push. Its apparent this is a bust now, but just like the "Counter Offensive" of last year, they will grind on long past the point of futility.

Speaking of which, imagine if they pulled this last year instead of tossing their army away? That might have actually been something to worry about.


Source on massive casualties?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Worst case scenario, Ukrainians simply melt back across the border with hundreds of POWs and captured equipment. And Russia is now forced to deploy significant forces to defend the border. Putin looks weak. The Russian people - particularly the 100,000 that have now fled - are finally made aware there's a war going on. And some of the pressure on places like Chaviv Yar, New York, and Vovchansk is removed because Russians are forced to redeploy to defend Russia itself.

Everything beyond that is gravy.

But I have the feeling there's more to come. Ukrainians have now taken more than 1000 sq km of Russia. For comparison, it took Russia 6 months and more than 100,000 casualties to take Bahkmut and Adviivka and expand their hold by a mere 200 sq km. And General Syrskyi is very good with deception and mobile warfare. The UAF has the advantage when it's on the move. And Russia itself is wide open for maneuvers - no minefields, no dialed in artillery, no trenches. It's a different war in Russia, one that suits Ukrainians.


As far as we can tell, there have been minimal rotations by Russia, and other fronts continue to crumble. The UAF is also taking massive casualties on this operation. They simply don't have the logistics to sustain a deep push. Its apparent this is a bust now, but just like the "Counter Offensive" of last year, they will grind on long past the point of futility.

Speaking of which, imagine if they pulled this last year instead of tossing their army away? That might have actually been something to worry about.


Source on massive casualties?



Also not seeing anything about massive Ukrainian casualties. Lot of video though about Russian POWs - looks like Moscow boys and Chechens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Worst case scenario, Ukrainians simply melt back across the border with hundreds of POWs and captured equipment. And Russia is now forced to deploy significant forces to defend the border. Putin looks weak. The Russian people - particularly the 100,000 that have now fled - are finally made aware there's a war going on. And some of the pressure on places like Chaviv Yar, New York, and Vovchansk is removed because Russians are forced to redeploy to defend Russia itself.

Everything beyond that is gravy.

But I have the feeling there's more to come. Ukrainians have now taken more than 1000 sq km of Russia. For comparison, it took Russia 6 months and more than 100,000 casualties to take Bahkmut and Adviivka and expand their hold by a mere 200 sq km. And General Syrskyi is very good with deception and mobile warfare. The UAF has the advantage when it's on the move. And Russia itself is wide open for maneuvers - no minefields, no dialed in artillery, no trenches. It's a different war in Russia, one that suits Ukrainians.


As far as we can tell, there have been minimal rotations by Russia, and other fronts continue to crumble. The UAF is also taking massive casualties on this operation. They simply don't have the logistics to sustain a deep push. Its apparent this is a bust now, but just like the "Counter Offensive" of last year, they will grind on long past the point of futility.

Speaking of which, imagine if they pulled this last year instead of tossing their army away? That might have actually been something to worry about.


Source on massive casualties?



Also not seeing anything about massive Ukrainian casualties. Lot of video though about Russian POWs - looks like Moscow boys and Chechens.


Just a smattering of videos out there from pro-UA sources:



Not pro-UA also:

Anonymous



I am not sure why anyone would believe the Russian propaganda posted above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kursk will soon fall to Ukrainian forces.


LOL what is Ukraine going to do with Kursk? You know you have to manage territory after you take it, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is the first goal apparently of the "incursion"



What silliness. Why would they need to capture it if they can easily turn the tap off on their end?
Anonymous
Could you imagine if the United States was invaded and 8 days later our military had yet to show up? There are 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers roaming through Russia now. More than 180,000 civilians have now fled. Dozens of towns have fallen. Important railway junctions have been taken. The Ukrainian army is within sight of a nuclear power plant for goodness sake. And still Russia has done nothing.

Pathetic
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kursk will soon fall to Ukrainian forces.


LOL what is Ukraine going to do with Kursk? You know you have to manage territory after you take it, right?

False. You can simply raze it to the ground after you pillage it and capture civilians as war prisoners. Like in the good old days of 1500
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Russia has redeployed a relatively small number of troops to contain Ukraine's advances into Kursk. Otherwise it's relying on homeland defense forces. Meanwhile Ukraine is tying up 10,000+ of its best troops to secure a tiny sliver of Russia, and Russian forces continue to slowly advance into Eastern Ukraine, a few km a week. I think Ukraine hoped for a massive overreaction and redeployment of Russian troops away from the Eastern front but it hasn't happened. While embarrassing Russia is certainly gratifying, I don't see a military advantage for Ukraine in all of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Russia has redeployed a relatively small number of troops to contain Ukraine's advances into Kursk. Otherwise it's relying on homeland defense forces. Meanwhile Ukraine is tying up 10,000+ of its best troops to secure a tiny sliver of Russia, and Russian forces continue to slowly advance into Eastern Ukraine, a few km a week. I think Ukraine hoped for a massive overreaction and redeployment of Russian troops away from the Eastern front but it hasn't happened. While embarrassing Russia is certainly gratifying, I don't see a military advantage for Ukraine in all of this.


Putin’s grip on his country is tenuous at best. I think Ukraine is hoping that these maneuvers will create more opposition to him. And that remains to be seen. What the world really needs is a civil war in Russia to overthrow Putin. This situation is not enough to start that, but it might be an important first step.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kursk will soon fall to Ukrainian forces.


LOL what is Ukraine going to do with Kursk? You know you have to manage territory after you take it, right?

False. You can simply raze it to the ground after you pillage it and capture civilians as war prisoners. Like in the good old days of 1500


Yes and they can also use it as a staging ground for more air and ground attacks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Russia has redeployed a relatively small number of troops to contain Ukraine's advances into Kursk. Otherwise it's relying on homeland defense forces. Meanwhile Ukraine is tying up 10,000+ of its best troops to secure a tiny sliver of Russia, and Russian forces continue to slowly advance into Eastern Ukraine, a few km a week. I think Ukraine hoped for a massive overreaction and redeployment of Russian troops away from the Eastern front but it hasn't happened. While embarrassing Russia is certainly gratifying, I don't see a military advantage for Ukraine in all of this.


Putin’s grip on his country is tenuous at best. I think Ukraine is hoping that these maneuvers will create more opposition to him. And that remains to be seen. What the world really needs is a civil war in Russia to overthrow Putin. This situation is not enough to start that, but it might be an important first step.


This is the magic thinking that led to him winning re-election with the largest margin of his political career. Combine that with every fifth-columnar leaving town he has a firmer grip on power now than he ever has. You're more likely to see a civil war in the UK than Russia, and it would be well deserved and hilarious.

Anonymous
"Winning re-election with the largest margin of his political career."

Calling it an election or a political career is remarkably generous.
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