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Anonymous
I bet a lot of happy and effective teachers will be left once the burnout and the entitled leave. |
Anonymous
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Hmm. That's not what I'm seeing and hearing. But you as an outsider are free to speculate. If you have kids in the system, that might not be a gamble you want to take.
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Anonymous
I’m a teacher in MCPS. Married to another teacher in MCPS. DD in 8th grade in MCPS. I’m usually on the hiring committees at my school. Not hearing about a mass exodus next year. |
Anonymous
Check with HR and report back. Are you at a well-run school? |
Anonymous
| Mostly corrupt principal shinanigans is what mcps stands for. |
Anonymous
I posted up thread. My experience with MCPS principals as a teacher hasn't been that they're corrupt-- more that they're inept and wimpy, like a scared middle manager. They are afraid of getting their wrist slapped and play it safe and don't do enough to protect their staff. They also make mistakes, but from what I've seen, the majority haven't been cheats or liars. A few I've worked for have had affairs with underlings. They either got away with it or were promoted or moved if they got caught. More of that kind of corruption than cooking the books. CYA from above. Teachers now realize it's everyone for themselves and some are becoming the worst colleagues. A few decades ago, principals had more autonomy and there were strong ones who did what was right, but those days seem to be over. Choose who to trust very carefully. That's across the board. |
Anonymous
loil! One of our best left. She had a heavy AP load. Now, the "best" left are being moved around to cover our colleague's load. Planning periods are now being used to help with these advanced classes. You have no clue. Those "toxins" are some of the best ever who SEE the sickness. Stop "sharing" your thoughts if you haven't taught. |
Anonymous
There are bubbles. But these bubbles are small and are anomalies. I've worked in four schools - all downcounty minus one. mass exodus in all of my downcounty schools - Upcounty is stable. 20 years ago? great principals and stable staff Once autonomy was removed, it affected their decisions to do what was right for their own students. That obviously trickled down to the teachers. Discipline was top down, which meant no one had control. So a kid who groped my daughter's friend, for example, had his schedule changed. Look - I get it. Many teachers have a limited perspective. That's no one's fault. If you land at a "good" school and have only been in the system for about 10 years, you don't get it. But there's a whole ugly world out there doing lots of damage to good people. And people - like me - who have been in the system for over two decades have seen these ugly changes. But we're "toxic." lol Then why do the younger teachers seek me out if they're having trouble with management or planning? I've given up planning periods to help other teachers. That's what we should ALL be doing as a way to show a united front. |
Anonymous
| Plenty of turnover at my W school, too. It’s not just bubbles. |
Anonymous
I agree with what you said except for the bolded. I'm at an upcounty school and it's definitely not stable. The thing is--I used to wish for the day my principal would leave. My principal is hot and cold and you never know what you're going to get. They're near the end of the career and a little bit "old school". However, after seeing what the new crop of administrators (APs) are like--micromanagers who are like robots and just follow central office's orders without any kind of critical thinking--I'm scared for when my principal retires. My principal actually understands that not everything is black and white and there is a gray area. After so many years of wishing they would finally retire, I am at the point where I'm wishing that they stay for at least a few more years. We're all truly fu**ed with this new breed of sycophant administrators. |
Anonymous
| This whole thread is a bubble of mutual masturbation between people who are incapable of adapting to a rapidly changing system. They could leave for greener pastures. They could even pursue leadership positions and steer change in the direction they want. Instead they would rather whine and envision themselves the only true teachers. |
Anonymous
Plenty do leave. But that’s not going to help. The ones leaving are ones with options to go, and those tend to be highly skilled, likeable teachers. Many of the good ones who stay have many years in the system and feel nervous about giving up tangible employment benefits for the unknown, and their morale is tanked. That’s no good either. Teachers have very different responsibilities than administrators. Suggesting that a teacher suddenly start the multi-year process to become a school leader tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about. Many of the unhappy teachers I know do hold instructional leadership positions. Frankly, many of the unhappy people I know ARE APs and principals! With this level of discontent across the board, people in central should be asking questions and collecting data points. Why wait for retention to fully implode before examining what’s going wrong? |
Anonymous
The people complaining on this thread are not the ones going to MCEA meetings to get on record what is wrong. They are not participating in school, cluster, or district level panels. By their own admission, they are too demoralized to do anything other than run out the clock. |
Anonymous
| If you go to MCEA then you show them what their next target will look like as they do more damage then help. My best advice is get out of MCEA because they will team up against teachers who have issues and will make your problems worse. |
Anonymous
Have you taught in a non-union state? Ask NC teachers how much power they have. |