I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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As a teacher, I support a vaccine mandate. We need to do everything we can to protect the little ones who aren’t vaccinated yet.


Children don’t need vaccinations against covid, their risk is negligible.


Depends on the child. I saw a news article that mentioned two that died. It irks me that they never mention how old these children are. But anyway, it did disclose that one if them was a patient that was being treated for something else. So I think kids who have health issues will be at more risk.


The child may have died of that something else.

A JHU study analyzed all pediatric COVID deaths in the US and none occurred without co-morbidities. Statistically the chance of a child dying of COVID is less than that of a vaccinated 35 year old. Can it happen? Sure, but it's down in the .002% range. Yes over a large population that's still a few hundred kids, as we've seen, but it's safer than many things. I'll still vaccinate my ES kids when it becomes available, but I don't worry about them. Those who have co-morbidities should be able to do Online Campus, and if they missed that window than Virtual Virginia or VAVA K-12.


I have MULTIPLE friends and family members working in hospitals in the south (Florida and Mississippi. Covid is affecting children more than they have seen before and they are being admitted to hospital more than has been seen before. I do believe that our unvaccinated kids are at risk and that our school system is going to struggle with how to proceed.


The UK had school open during their entire Delta surge. Infection fatality rate was far, far lower there than during Alpha (.2% versus 2-3%, and that's the percentage only of those who were actually infected).

Yes, more cases does mean more chance for kids to have an adverse reaction, because a small percent of a larger number is bigger than a small percent of a smaller number. That doesn't guarantee that the sky is falling, though. Look at the real world data.
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Apparently it's preschoolers we need to be worrying about (which isn't surprising given the delayed RSV season and the fact that infants and young toddlers may not have been exposed to it).

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What is RSV?
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Anonymous wrote:What is RSV?


A respiratory infection that usually appears in winter and is serious in babies (especially preemies or immunocompromised babies) and the old. You can get it multiple times in your life, but will have some protection from prior infection. In the vast majority of ES kids and adults not including seniors it will be a cold.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/index.html
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Anonymous wrote:What is RSV?


A respiratory infection that usually appears in winter and is serious in babies (especially preemies or immunocompromised babies) and the old. You can get it multiple times in your life, but will have some protection from prior infection. In the vast majority of ES kids and adults not including seniors it will be a cold.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/index.html


My son was hospitalized with RSV. That virus is terrible...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
As a teacher, I support a vaccine mandate. We need to do everything we can to protect the little ones who aren’t vaccinated yet.


Children don’t need vaccinations against covid, their risk is negligible.


Depends on the child. I saw a news article that mentioned two that died. It irks me that they never mention how old these children are. But anyway, it did disclose that one if them was a patient that was being treated for something else. So I think kids who have health issues will be at more risk.


The child may have died of that something else.

A JHU study analyzed all pediatric COVID deaths in the US and none occurred without co-morbidities. Statistically the chance of a child dying of COVID is less than that of a vaccinated 35 year old. Can it happen? Sure, but it's down in the .002% range. Yes over a large population that's still a few hundred kids, as we've seen, but it's safer than many things. I'll still vaccinate my ES kids when it becomes available, but I don't worry about them. Those who have co-morbidities should be able to do Online Campus, and if they missed that window than Virtual Virginia or VAVA K-12.


I have MULTIPLE friends and family members working in hospitals in the south (Florida and Mississippi. Covid is affecting children more than they have seen before and they are being admitted to hospital more than has been seen before. I do believe that our unvaccinated kids are at risk and that our school system is going to struggle with how to proceed.


The UK had school open during their entire Delta surge. Infection fatality rate was far, far lower there than during Alpha (.2% versus 2-3%, and that's the percentage only of those who were actually infected).

Yes, more cases does mean more chance for kids to have an adverse reaction, because a small percent of a larger number is bigger than a small percent of a smaller number. That doesn't guarantee that the sky is falling, though. Look at the real world data.


I didn't say that the sky is falling. I just suspect that we will see greater numbers of children affected by covid this coming fall and I think that the school system is going to struggle with trying to balance safety in schools and instructional programming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is RSV?


A respiratory infection that usually appears in winter and is serious in babies (especially preemies or immunocompromised babies) and the old. You can get it multiple times in your life, but will have some protection from prior infection. In the vast majority of ES kids and adults not including seniors it will be a cold.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/index.html


My son was hospitalized with RSV. That virus is terrible...


Get ready for people to tell you that it didn’t really happen, it wasn’t that bad, and/or that’s too bad but who cares if only one kid got it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is RSV?


A respiratory infection that usually appears in winter and is serious in babies (especially preemies or immunocompromised babies) and the old. You can get it multiple times in your life, but will have some protection from prior infection. In the vast majority of ES kids and adults not including seniors it will be a cold.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/index.html


My son was hospitalized with RSV. That virus is terrible...


Get ready for people to tell you that it didn’t really happen, it wasn’t that bad, and/or that’s too bad but who cares if only one kid got it.


The poster isn't calling for schools and the rest of the society to shut down because of RSV so it's doubtful this will happen.
Anonymous
I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



Was your ES in school in spring?

Are you able to keep your ES kid in an environment with < 2% spread?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



What specifically would you like to see? Sometimes posters make these comments but they don't give us more information, so I'm curious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



I'm not considering that at all. When my kids were able to return to school last spring, the improvement was huge. Indescribable. My kids will be in school for as many days as school is open.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



I'm comfortable with the HVAC improvements. I think that's a good plan to keep kids safe.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



Was your ES in school in spring?

Are you able to keep your ES kid in an environment with < 2% spread?


I hope that ES maintains the low transmission rate from the spring when there was distancing. Looking at what is happening in school districts in the south that mandate masks, I’m not confident. And FCPS’ plan is masks and vaccines. So for the ES kids, that’s just masks. And not social distancing while eating or snack.

The FDA is supposed to announce a plan for boosters next week.

They don’t really learn much the first quarter anyways. Hopefully I’m wrong and my kid will be able to rejoin school in October.

At this point, it’s not worth it for one

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m highly debating just pulling my ES child out and planning to homeschool the first quarter.

Unless I see a better plan to keep kids safe that are months(possibly weeks) away from being vaccinated, I’m not sending him.



I'm comfortable with the HVAC improvements. I think that's a good plan to keep kids safe.


They have already done a lot on that with CARES and ESSR II funds and the ARP money is in the process of being allocated by Richmond to do even more. Spread in school in spring was 1.3%. Spread in open schools in the UK during their delta wave (they don't go on summer break until July) was under 2% without masks. The UK has almost the same population vaccination rate as Fairfax County.
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