To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic landslide in 2024. All these domestic issues will be resolved by early next year, some already have been resolved but the stale talking points persist. Blinken is going to negotiate a better diplomatic Middle East peace agreement than any of the previous ones. Republicans will continue to be both delusional and incompetent.

Economy will be roaring. Middle East will be forgotten. And the Republicans will still be pushing a national abortion ban.

Totally agree. Democratic landslide.

The GOP is telegraphing that they want to ban birth control. I wonder why they think that’s a winning issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Planning on voting for Dean Philips. Trump is deplorable but I don’t think Biden is with it anymore. I also don’t agree with anything he has done…Ukraine, Israel etc. I also hate that he is still against expanding the size of the Supreme Court.

You guys get that you’re not remotely believable with this stuff, right? Ping ponging from RFK to DeSantis (!) to Phillips, whose first campaign event went tragically according to the Washington Post. But sure sure. You’re all Democrats who just so happen not to care about any policies that will die if a Republican gets into office.

This was literally my first post on this thread and I am a registered democrat for many years. I think there is something cognitively wrong with Biden and don't think he was particularly bright to begin with. I morally cannot vote for someone who I don't think is physically able to do the job. I don't want some random person running the show behind the scenes so the democrats need to put up something else or they are going to lose. Gavin Newsom would be my first voice but don't see that being an option.

Newsom is an option if you want to lose worse than Mondale did.

Please try to deal in reality. It will be Trump v Biden, which means you vote Biden or you vote for insanity.

I voted for Biden the first time on that logic and I'm not doing it again. And unless you have a crystal ball how do you now it will be Trump? He could be dead or in jail by then. That it potentially will be him is not enough of a reason for someone who is practically a corpse in a suit to be president for two terms. And setting that aside, polls already show Trump leading Biden in every battleground states so the reality is that Biden is already poised to lose. So again wouldn't it make more sense to offer a viable alternative candidate rather than insisting, despite all evidence to the contrary, that voting for Biden is the only way to win?

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

90% of that list is pork. The rest is fluff.

Eyeroll. Nothing is ever enough.

Biden saved the economy from cratering post-Covid and reengaged with the world after four years of a crazy-wanna-be-autocrat.

it's not pork or fluff, it's governing. You probably aren't familiar with that. Hint: It doesn't involve inciting riots or calling Nazis "good people."

DP. Saved the economy? Have you heard of inflation? Or our very meh labor force participation rate?

Trump being a deplorable racist (which he is) doesn't make Biden a good or effective president.

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Why don’t people bet their IP addresses if you are so confident that Biden will win?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump at least you know what you are getting

Biden touts his Irish credentials but NO Irishman would ever be so brazenly pro Israel

Like this is deep in Irish culture to support Palestine

Biden isn’t being truthful

In Trump you are getting a criminal who tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power.

Also, he couldn't find Israel on a map.

Good. The faster everyone “forgets” it like Chinese mapmakers recently did, the better

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

You’re really close to getting it.

Instead of saying “I don’t like Biden’s Mideast policy so I’m voting for the Republicans” imagine looking at it as “Republicans are threatening to deport Palestinians but Democrats are sending weapons to kill them right now.”

I don’t think people are going to vote Republican. I think they’re going to stay home.

Here’s the moment for the Democratic Party to draw a clear distinction between themselves and the Republicans. You obviously think this draft legislation does that, but it doesn’t, because the Democrats are still arming the side that has killed 3000+ children and resisted calls for respite.

Big democratic thinkers should now be looking for a positive message to send the voters about why they’re really worth voting for, not trying to scare people with a Republican proposal that can’t pass.

Meanwhile, several Jewish posters in another thread are refusing to vote for Biden because the Democratic Party isn’t sufficiently pro-Israel.

People have lost their ever loving minds.

Yup.

Let's just support the Evangelical party that wants Jews to burn in The Rapture, and in the meantime taking away women's rights, the right to vote and other rights in the name of Jesus Christ.

There aren't enough emojis.

You don't even have a basic understanding of Evangelical Christianity. They are almost uniformly pro-Israel with absolutely no empathy for Palestinians whatsoever. Also The Rapture, in evangelical Christianity, is where all of the good Christians get beamed up to heaven so no one is burning. You're right on the women's rights thing but if someone's primary issue is only supporting Israel and they don't care about any other issue then they are going to be be more closely aligned with Evangelical Christians than progressives.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

This doesn’t read to me as “great”. I don’t think he’s been a disastrous president but “not a disaster” doesn’t get my vote when there’s a serious moral issue— the death of 3000 Palestinian children and the extraordinary callousness with which American Citizens in Gaza have been treated— on his hands.

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Biden won’t run. He will claim victory on his successful first term and say he’s stepping aside to spend time with his family and make way for the next generation.

Not sure if Kamala will run, but she won’t win.

There are at least a handful of Dems who will run…including the guy who was on Bill Maher the other night who did a good job articulating why he is running.

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic landslide in 2024. All these domestic issues will be resolved by early next year, some already have been resolved but the stale talking points persist. Blinken is going to negotiate a better diplomatic Middle East peace agreement than any of the previous ones. Republicans will continue to be both delusional and incompetent.

Economy will be roaring. Middle East will be forgotten. And the Republicans will still be pushing a national abortion ban.

Totally agree. Democratic landslide.

I hope you're right about a roaring economy and leave in the middle east. It seems unlikely, though, because we are sending money to both Palestine and Israel. Normally, if you fund both sides, it prolongs a war.

If people think voting for the GOP - likely Trump or not voting at all and by default enabling Trump to win - we won’t be going to get peace. Not in the Middle East, not in the United States, not anywhere. It we will be in a full-on fascistic state where people will be barred from basic civil rights because they are Muslim or gay or a woman (not that these aren’t in jeopardy already).

All these people who hate Israel, who deny it the right to protect itself from offensives from neighbors and terrorists, and want to “show Biden” for having the basic morality to support Israelis in the wake of the heinous attack of October 7 when so many were completely SILENT.

You’re biting your nose to spite your face.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

This doesn’t read to me as “great”. I don’t think he’s been a disastrous president but “not a disaster” doesn’t get my vote when there’s a serious moral issue— the death of 3000 Palestinian children and the extraordinary callousness with which American Citizens in Gaza have been treated— on his hands.

Then who are you voting for? Or are you just so mad that Biden supported Israel after 10/7 that you’ll be ok enabling a Trump win.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

90% of that list is pork. The rest is fluff.

Eyeroll. Nothing is ever enough.

Biden saved the economy from cratering post-Covid and reengaged with the world after four years of a crazy-wanna-be-autocrat.

it's not pork or fluff, it's governing. You probably aren't familiar with that. Hint: It doesn't involve inciting riots or calling Nazis "good people."

+1

I really disappointed in so many of you who probably consider yourselves smart and savvy people. Instead of evaluating Biden’s stable leadership, you’re blindly regurgitating conservative talking points.

Or on the other hand threatening not to vote at all for Biden, likely guaranteeing a Trump win. And you know who won’t be good for Palestinians (and lots of others)? Trump. But ok, take your toys and go home. Burn down your own country to punish a presidency who recognized how devastating 10/7 was and had the decency to show support to the Israeli people - and Jews around the world - who realized that Hamas is intent on exterminating Jews and this was an act of war.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

90% of that list is pork. The rest is fluff.

Eyeroll. Nothing is ever enough.

Biden saved the economy from cratering post-Covid and reengaged with the world after four years of a crazy-wanna-be-autocrat.

it's not pork or fluff, it's governing. You probably aren't familiar with that. Hint: It doesn't involve inciting riots or calling Nazis "good people."

Biden didn't save anything. He sent checks to people to stay home and enjoy life, people who are perfectly capable of working.

He hit the national credit card for trillions to send to China for wind turbines and solar panels.

There's unrest all around the world because of his weakness and a piss-poor withdrawal in Afghanistan. Don't sugar coat it, baby.

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Low inflation
World peace

Trump was great

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+1 on his mean tweets also.

They aggravated the left with TRUTH.

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Anonymous wrote:Democratic landslide in 2024. All these domestic issues will be resolved by early next year, some already have been resolved but the stale talking points persist. Blinken is going to negotiate a better diplomatic Middle East peace agreement than any of the previous ones. Republicans will continue to be both delusional and incompetent.

Economy will be roaring. Middle East will be forgotten. And the Republicans will still be pushing a national abortion ban.

Totally agree. Democratic landslide.

I hope you're right about a roaring economy and leave in the middle east. It seems unlikely, though, because we are sending money to both Palestine and Israel. Normally, if you fund both sides, it prolongs a war.

If people think voting for the GOP - likely Trump or not voting at all and by default enabling Trump to win - we won’t be going to get peace. Not in the Middle East, not in the United States, not anywhere. It we will be in a full-on fascistic state where people will be barred from basic civil rights because they are Muslim or gay or a woman (not that these aren’t in jeopardy already).

All these people who hate Israel, who deny it the right to protect itself from offensives from neighbors and terrorists, and want to “show Biden” for having the basic morality to support Israelis in the wake of the heinous attack of October 7 when so many were completely SILENT.

You’re biting your nose to spite your face.

I don't hate Israel. Don't deny it the right of self defense. Their bombing of Gaza is not self defense and doesn't get rid of Hamas, or the idea of Hamas. Just creates a new generation who will want to join the next version of Hamas. Their tactics have been brutal and have resulted in the loss of thousands of innocent civilians. You can't convince me that they couldn't have engaged different tactics to get rid of Hamas with less loss of civilians.

I understand Biden supports Israel. However, he has been callous in regards to the lives of Palestinians lost.

His comment that he was a Zionist, when that is such a loaded word to so many people.

His complete disregard of the number of Palestinians killed, when those numbers have been found reliable in previous conflicts thus far.

His complete disregard of the Palestinians prior to October 7. As if there was no problem, no issues going on in the West Bank, no settler violence, etc. Biden could have done/said things differently that wouldn't have alienated the Arab-American/Muslim voting block.

I have never voted for a Republican in 20 years and I don't plan to start. I think they don't know how to run government, have no plans on how to improve the lives of Americans, and a lot of them are beholden to racists and Islamophobes. And they will make my life in America more difficult if they are in power, no doubt. But I'm tired. I will vote my conscience. It's about time I do.