Redshirting August boy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

My kids are great. Zero delays. Tall. Mature.

We gave them an extra year of preschool because Kindergarten is not age appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.

Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.

Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??

Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.

The issue isn't about being "the youngest". The issue is that kids aren't old enough for modern-day Kindergarten. All kids should wait a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

Serious complaints? Why don't you all just walk away? Doesn't sound like you're a good fit at this school if its constantly disrupted and lopsided. Why stay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

18. My soon to be redshirted son will be 18 when he graduates from HS. As appears to 17 if he went “on time” and started kindergarten at 4. I believe 18 is the age the vast majority of kids graduate HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Stop advertising how poor your math skills are. 😬😬

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

Sure, Jan.

But, charitably, let’s pretend your whiny fantasies are true. Then why are you just passively sitting around? I would never let my kid stay in a private classroom where “many parents” had to make “serious” complaints to “administration and admissions.” That’s like parenting 101. You pull your kid from private school if it’s not the right fit. I think you need to learn some parenting basics, assuming you actually even have a child and not a figment of your fevered imagination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

Stop advertising how poor your math skills are. 😬😬

Awww - you feel bad because we know you suck at math?

Maybe your parents should have waited a year to send you to K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Man, anti-redshirters are comedy gold. Love these threads.

Ask them how old the redshirted kids are when they graduate HS or college. It's hilarious.

18. My soon to be redshirted son will be 18 when he graduates from HS. As appears to 17 if he went “on time” and started kindergarten at 4. I believe 18 is the age the vast majority of kids graduate HS.

Yes, but the insane anti-redshirters think it's like 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

If your kids actually went to a big 3 elementary, then you'd know that the schools are forcing summer boys to redshirt. It's not even a choice for parents if they want their kids to attend. The "type of parents" are parents who send their summer bday kids to big 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

If your kids actually went to a big 3 elementary, then you'd know that the schools are forcing summer boys to redshirt. It's not even a choice for parents if they want their kids to attend. The "type of parents" are parents who send their summer bday kids to big 3.

Poor, desperate big 3 parents!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids I know who redshirted, their families are exactly the type id expect to redshirt their kids. That’s all. A lot of them now complain that they wish area sports were grade based, not birth year based, because “it is hard to always have him be with the 3rd graders when he is a second grader”. Mind you this is for , say, August birthday boys who are basically in the middle, age-wise, for a birth year based sports team lol.

Anyways like I said whenever I find out a kid was held back/ is a year old for his grade it’s always “oh, well yeah knowing his parents that makes sense”.

This 100%.

Also, fwiw, in our child's grade at a big 3 elementary, it is the red shirted boys who have consistently caused the most disruption (in a grade that has many more boys than girls for some reason), which has led to many parents waging serious complaints to the school administration and admissions.

If your kids actually went to a big 3 elementary, then you'd know that the schools are forcing summer boys to redshirt. It's not even a choice for parents if they want their kids to attend. The "type of parents" are parents who send their summer bday kids to big 3.

Lol. So summer bday kids shouldn’t get to go to big 3s now, lest the flexible private school cutoff make them older than your child who made your public school districts arbitrary cutoff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.

Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.

Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??

Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.

Yea, it does create a new cohort of kids who are the youngest in the class. Some kids will do okay as the youngest, as some will benefit from being the oldest. What seems less fair that taking it on a kid by kid basis is essentially making birthdays a lottery system- let’s assume the 9/1 cut off above: if you’re born late in the summer, you’re out of luck compared to the September and October kids. There will usually be statistically proven disadvantages of being the youngest. If your kid falls into that bracket, it’s good to have some flexibility so they don’t end up a statistic. May parents will cry about this because now it makes their kid potentially younger, but even that is sort of silly because a) they won’t be and b) the kids who are redshirted are generally outliers and do not comprise close to the majority of the class.

If the majority of august kids redshirt, then the July kids will absolutely become the youngest. And when the July kids redshirt, the June kids become the youngest. And so on and so forth. People who resdshirt their kids feel exactly as you say- that their kids are the youngest, they don’t like that, so instead they make them the oldest by holding them back a grade. Which, in turn, makes a different cohort of kids (the early summer kids) the youngest when previously those kids would have had a handful of children younger than them.

So, then, those kids redshirt. Now the spring kids are the youngest when prior to redshirting, they’d have been late middle of the pack, age wise. It just continues. This is why there should be a firm cutoff, absent a doctors letter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read.

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP. She's a legend in her own warped mind.

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value.

You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help. That is neglect. Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.

I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.

Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser.

Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??

Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it.

Yea, it does create a new cohort of kids who are the youngest in the class. Some kids will do okay as the youngest, as some will benefit from being the oldest. What seems less fair that taking it on a kid by kid basis is essentially making birthdays a lottery system- let’s assume the 9/1 cut off above: if you’re born late in the summer, you’re out of luck compared to the September and October kids. There will usually be statistically proven disadvantages of being the youngest. If your kid falls into that bracket, it’s good to have some flexibility so they don’t end up a statistic. May parents will cry about this because now it makes their kid potentially younger, but even that is sort of silly because a) they won’t be and b) the kids who are redshirted are generally outliers and do not comprise close to the majority of the class.

If the majority of august kids redshirt, then the July kids will absolutely become the youngest. And when the July kids redshirt, the June kids become the youngest. And so on and so forth. People who resdshirt their kids feel exactly as you say- that their kids are the youngest, they don’t like that, so instead they make them the oldest by holding them back a grade. Which, in turn, makes a different cohort of kids (the early summer kids) the youngest when previously those kids would have had a handful of children younger than them.

So, then, those kids redshirt. Now the spring kids are the youngest when prior to redshirting, they’d have been late middle of the pack, age wise. It just continues. This is why there should be a firm cutoff, absent a doctors letter.

Okay but it doesn’t solve the larger problem at hand which is that there seems to be difficulty teaching to there varying levels of a 12 month age gap, particularly in an increasingly competitive academic ecosystem.