ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

You keep saying things "will" change but then don't provide any proof. If you have nothing to offer, you don't have to respond. The PP was being forthcoming and saying what is happening, not offering some science fiction future. Show some respect to facts before you spout random opinions that carry no weight

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

You make no sense.

Start over and try again.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

You make no sense.

Start over and try again.

Your lack of reading comprehension has been well established. See Norcal Mustangs post misread, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

You make no sense.

Start over and try again.

Your lack of reading comprehension has been well established. See Norcal Mustangs post misread, etc.

Ahh, the post where the Mustangs parent said that their club is allowing players to try out with and play on their grade in school team?

Yea, I didnt miss anything.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, the most logical conclusion for why this thread lives on is that there are two trolls trolling each other and they don’t even realize it.

There is one person who is saying what will happen. There is another person who is interpreting the rules the way they want them implemented. Rules allow for clubs to do whatever they want with Aug birthdays. The rule is 8/1 and younger can play on X team. The whole concept of a 12 month eligibility window doesnt apply because players are allowed to play up. This is where people are getting stuck. US Soccer shouldn't have said SY= 8/1-7/31 when in actuality SY=8/1 and younger is the grouping. The 7/31 bound doesnt exist if players can play up. It just creates a mental roadblock for some people.

You lose one argument to a bunch of people and then bounce back to square one with trying to create a rule to make youth soccer fit what you want to help your personal situation but create big problems for kids that aren't yours. It isn't going to happen. It's a zero sum game and you are just trying to be selfish. Rinse and repeat.

If you have nothing new to add, you can just not post. You aren't raising awareness. Anybody with sense isn't reading hundreds of pages to learn anything here.

Sorry, leagues announced 8/1 - 7/31 in the summer except MLSN1, local teams announced no forcing up in winter posts and made it clear in the announcements that they limit playing up.

It's over.

Because leagues allow playing up "8/1 and under" is the same thing as "8/1-7/31". The 7/31 date is unnecessary. Also 7/31 creates the false perception that there is a lower bound for the eligibility window when it doesnt exist because players can play up.

You've taken the unnecessary 7/31 date and ran with it to the point where you believe only players in a 12 month window should be rostered on a team. Which is clearly not true because all leagues allow playing up. If leagues wanted a strict 12 month eligibility window they wouldnt allow playing up. Its unfortunate that the 7/31 date exists because your interpretation is not correct. Which is causing you to spread incorrect information to others.

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Age guy has made it his quest in life to defend the poor players that might be younger than a 12 month 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. When in reality there is no 12 month eligibility window because players are allowed play up. Each competition level is simply 8/1 and younger. Its parents responsibility to put their kid on the correct grade in school team. If they dont it will make college recruiting 100x harder for their kid.

First parents and clubs responsibility is to keep kids safe. Colorado Rapids points out danger in playing up when not ready. College recruiting path is non existent for those playing up when not ready and it increases quiting. College recruiting path doesn't matter because colleges said they don't care what age group you are in, they evaluate all HS, transfers and foreign kids regardless of team.

There is no "playing up" 8/1 and younger are eligible per level in club. Parents can choose which level they try out for.

Levels happen to be mostly aligned with grade in school so this is what most parents will choose to tryout for.

Except for you. You'll choose to try out on the younger grade in school level. When this happens coaches will inform you that your kid didnt make the team but they have roster spots available on your kids grade in school B team.

Saying there is no playing up is an exaggeration. Some clubs have a few of their best kids play up an age group but it is pretty rare and often the kid reverts to their correct age group. The small clubs often have playing up but that is more to fill holes on teams.

There needs to be some context defined.

In BY Aug-Dec Birthdays are playing up a grade

When BY changes to SY Aug-Dec players will be playing with their grade or they will be playing down a grade. It depends on when their school cutoff happens.

How weird would it be for Aug birthdays to go from playing on a team with players a grade older than they are to a team with players a grade below them in school. See how this is an issue? The easy solution is for Aug birthdays to play up on their correct grade in school team if needed.

The traditional form of playing up would be playing on a team with players a grade older than you are. Once we switch to SY this fall this is what people will think of when discussing playjng up.

So why not have that SY play on the second team if SY is so important,?

I dont know what you're asking so I'll just make a guess.

Clubs want all levels of player playing on the correct grade in school A B C etc team. This is because its better for players when they get to recruiting years. Its better for the club because they avoid 8th grade teams with 9th grade players who do high school soccer for 4 months out of the year. And in general its easier for clubs to manage everyone when players are grouped by grade. (Think homecoming, or a school trip that only one grade participates in, etc)

Lol, homecoming is a new one.

Age guy got laughed at for bringing up lawsuits due to dangers of the sport, an argument supported by legal papers parents have to sign.

Grade guy is talking about homecoming and feelings of "weird" and ick for playing on a different grade.

How is homecoming weird? If you have 9th grade players on an 8th grade team they're going to be attending homecoming and you wont have players that night. Same thing with field trips or events that only one grade participates in. If you have a team with multiple grades schedules become more complex which makes it hard participate in games. The fact that you dont understand this is just another proof that you're a littles know it all.

Yes, when teams are all one grade is much easier for clubs to schedule and participate in events.

Nobody said homecoming was weird. I was referencing an earlier post that said "How weird would it be for Aug birthdays to go from playing on a team with players a grade older than they are to a team with players a grade below them in school".

Using terms like weird and saying things like this is what schools will move to and they will do this and do that, that is all either speaking from feelings or speculation and not from actual facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

Not this claim again. They won't make the grade below A team? What kind of club excludes potentially one of their best players from making THEIR AGE GROUP A team based on their grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

You make no sense.

Start over and try again.

Your lack of reading comprehension has been well established. See Norcal Mustangs post misread, etc.

Ahh, the post where the Mustangs parent said that their club is allowing players to try out with and play on their grade in school team?

Yea, I didnt miss anything.

NorCal Mustangs don't care about grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Another Facebook thread (from yesterday) where parents are reporting that clubs are allowing Aug birthdays to play on the team thats their grade in school. Also 99% of comments are suggesting parents play their kid on their grade in school team.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/scholarshipsforsocceracademy/posts/25942942895333466/

FYI, allowing isn't forcing.

Notice that the OP of the Facebook thread said their club is forcing kids to play on age and blocking playing up.

Clubs around here are sticking with age, best can play up. Random hopes and dreams on a Facebook posts aren't a data point.

Nobody is going to force Aug players to play on their coreect grade in school team. They just wont make the grade below them A team. But coaches will offer a spot on the correct grade in school B team or grade down B team. We all know which one you'll choose

So August players are damned if they do and damned if they don't with no chance of making a top team in either age group in your fantasy?

The reality is if Aug birthdays are "good" they'll make their grade in school A team. The only reason an Aug birthday would be looking to play on a grade down A team is because they didnt make the grade in school A team.

In this situation clubs need to step in and save kids from parents who are looking for shortcuts. Put the kid on their correct grade in school B team so if they get better making the correct grade in school A team possible.

Doesn't compute. Clubs around here announced limited playing up and won't know or care about kids grades. It's over. This grade thing was always a lost cause only alive in your head.

Exactly. My HS age August kid's current coach coaches both "A" teams they could play on. He told us directly that he's going to put them one of those two teams next year based on which one he believes is the best fit from a soccer perspective only. Role on the field is the only thing he talked about. Not age. Not grade.

Best fit from a soccer perspective will magically be the team thats your kids grade in school. Your situation is not special or novel. What the coach tells you to keep your checks flowing will be whatever keeps your checks flowing.

Amazing that you have such magical insight into a situation you don't have any knowledge of. If it happens to be their grade, great. If it happens to be their age, also fine.

You're simply talking out your a** pretending to be an expert. You're not.

I've been around youth soccer for over 10 years. Yes, I'm very confident about what I've written because its all things I've experienced in the past.

Clubs choose whats in their best interests

Weasel parents will always be looking for a way to cheat and get their kid some kind of advantage

The sky is blue and water is wet.

An upstanding parent would accept the rules and policies posted by leagues and area clubs, 8/1 - 7/31, best on a limited basis can play up. A weasel would try to invent a rule to make his Sept girl the oldest and bulldoze competition, an August girl, off her team and Gillooly style try to bully people into making bad decisions to selfishly help his girl. And complain incessantly to their club about how it should be run.

And if you've only been around youth soccer for 10, you only had about 2 years of Ulittle previous SY which explains why you didn't know much of how SY used to operate.

As I've said multiple times before in SY pre 2017 I never heard of players playing down. I did hear of players playing up but I never looked at it very closely. Now I understand 100% what they/people were saying. Aug birthdays play up if they need to play on their grade in school team.

Creditable guy posted a bunch of pages back said it was about 1/20 players, about one Aug kid per team playing on age but off grade. That part has been settled. 10 years ago you would have been a parent watching 6 year olds playing 5v5 split goals no goalie. Not exactly the best vantage point to know how the whole youth soccer system, soup to nuts, operates.

Leagues said 8/1-7/31, local clubs trying to limit playing up, bids already mostly out for top teams. It's over, nobody forced to play up.

You make no sense.

Start over and try again.

Your lack of reading comprehension has been well established. See Norcal Mustangs post misread, etc.

Ahh, the post where the Mustangs parent said that their club is allowing players to try out with and play on their grade in school team?

Yea, I didnt miss anything.

NorCal Mustangs don't care about grades.

Someone does or they wouldn't be allowing players to try out for their grade in school team.

BTW this is what most clubs are doing. Which over time will lead to top teams being all one graduating year / grade in school.