ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

Will wishcasting no proof. Kids go to school late, early, skip grades, get held back. Not all teams will be on grade because of this and because most travel teams don't know or care what grade kids are in.

No, you are setting unsuspecting parents up for holding their kid back in school if Aug birthdays play down a grade.

What will happen is college coaches won't pay attention to them because they're playing down. So to address parents will hold their kid back in school to align grade in school and level played in club and get another year of recruiting.

Clubs in DC won't allow choosing to play up.so your wrong.

And your rando opinion has already been proven wrong.

Eastside FC said college coaches don't care what age group you are in. Play wherever, college coaches evaluate transfers, redshirts, foreign and HS players from good and bad teams. They take the best fits regardless of team the recruits play for.

Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.

Again, college coaches dont care about age because graduating year / grade in school is all that matters to them.

If Aug birthday players play down and are misaligned they will get ignored by college coaches when they're looking to get recruited.

Nobody getting ignored. You clearly made that up to try to scare Aug girl of your DD's team to make your Sept girl the oldest and use RAE.

Remember, "College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

[Anonymous]

Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

[Anonymous]

Playing up could be a safety issue. Because playing up could cause a 23 month difference.

But they don't let players around here just choose to play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ~ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ~ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ~ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ~ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ~ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ~ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ~ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ~ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ~ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ~ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ~ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ~ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ~ Kindergarten

[Anonymous]

DC area

Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing up could be a safety issue. Because playing up could cause a 23 month difference.

But they don't let players around here just choose to play up.

No incorrect. It has nothing to do with that.

It all depends on when school districts choose to make their cutoff dates. The latest Ive heard is Nov. Which means the most players would need to be is 16 months younger than Aug 1st. There are very few schools like this. 99% of schools start by Sept which would be 14 months younger at most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC area

Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

All areas according to the rules specifically because leagues allow playing up.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ~ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ~ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ~ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ~ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ~ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ~ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ~ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ~ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ~ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ~ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ~ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ~ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ~ Kindergarten

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

Playing up leading to 23 or even 24+ month difference is a club and league concern.

See Colorado Rapids.

"Physical Safety: We already see significant physical differences within a standard 12-month age gap. If we were to widen that window to 24+ months (as seen in strict grade-based grouping), the physical disparity becomes dangerous. A "held-back" 13-year-old competing against a young 11-year-old in the same grade poses a real safety concern.
Developmental Fairness: When age gaps widen beyond 12 months, the disparity in talent and physical maturity widens considerably. Keeping the grouping within the August 1–July 31 window ensures players compete with and against peers of similar physiological, emotional, and social maturity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing up could be a safety issue. Because playing up could cause a 23 month difference.

But they don't let players around here just choose to play up.

No incorrect. It has nothing to do with that.

It all depends on when school districts choose to make their cutoff dates. The latest Ive heard is Nov. Which means the most players would need to be is 16 months younger than Aug 1st. There are very few schools like this. 99% of schools start by Sept which would be 14 months younger at most.

False, grade not part of rules. You making grade up.

[Anonymous]

US Club rulebook

See https://usclubsoccer.org/...e-groups/.


2025-26 SEASON

2026-27 SEASON

U-6

Born between Jan 1, 2020 – Dec 31, 2020

Born between Aug 1, 2020 – July 31, 2021

U-7

Born between Jan 1, 2019 – Dec 31, 2019

Born between Aug 1, 2019 – July 31, 2020

U-8

Born between Jan 1, 2018 – Dec 31, 2018

Born between Aug 1, 2018 – July 31, 2019

U-9

Born between Jan 1, 2017 – Dec 31, 2017

Born between Aug 1, 2017 – July 31, 2018

U-10

Born between Jan 1, 2016 – Dec 31, 2016

Born between Aug 1, 2016 – July 31, 2017

U-11

Born between Jan 1, 2015 – Dec 31, 2015

Born between Aug 1, 2015 – July 31, 2016

U-12

Born between Jan 1, 2014 – Dec 31, 2014

Born between Aug 1, 2014 – July 31, 2015

U-13

Born between Jan 1, 2013 – Dec 31, 2013

Born between Aug 1, 2013 – July 31, 2014

U-14

Born between Jan 1, 2012 – Dec 31, 2012

Born between Aug 1, 2012 – July 31, 2013

U-15

Born between Jan 1, 2011 – Dec 31, 2011

Born between Aug 1, 2011 – July 31, 2012

U-16

Born between Jan 1, 2010 – Dec 31, 2010

Born between Aug 1, 2010 – July 31, 2011

U-17

Born between Jan 1, 2009 – Dec 31, 2009

Born between Aug 1, 2009 – July 31, 2010

U-18

Born between Jan 1, 2008 – Dec 31, 2008

Born between Aug 1, 2008 – July 31, 2009

U-19

Born between Jan 1, 2007 – Dec 31, 2007

Born between Aug 1, 2007 – July 31, 2008

U-20

Born between Jan 1, 2006 – Dec 31, 2006

Born between Aug 1, 2006 – July 31, 2007

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

Playing up leading to 23 or even 24+ month difference is a club and league concern.

See Colorado Rapids.

"Physical Safety: We already see significant physical differences within a standard 12-month age gap. If we were to widen that window to 24+ months (as seen in strict grade-based grouping), the physical disparity becomes dangerous. A "held-back" 13-year-old competing against a young 11-year-old in the same grade poses a real safety concern.
Developmental Fairness: When age gaps widen beyond 12 months, the disparity in talent and physical maturity widens considerably. Keeping the grouping within the August 1–July 31 window ensures players compete with and against peers of similar physiological, emotional, and social maturity."

Just because you dont understand math doesnt mean we all have to suffer.

Leagues have no rules about playing up.

Colorado has rules they defined for their club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing up could be a safety issue. Because playing up could cause a 23 month difference.

But they don't let players around here just choose to play up.

No incorrect. It has nothing to do with that.

It all depends on when school districts choose to make their cutoff dates. The latest Ive heard is Nov. Which means the most players would need to be is 16 months younger than Aug 1st. There are very few schools like this. 99% of schools start by Sept which would be 14 months younger at most.

They couldn't make grade part of the rules.

Colorado Rapids shows why.

"Why are teams organized by the August 1–July 31 date range rather than strictly by "Grade Level"? While the new age group system is often referred to as "School Year" because it aligns better with school grades than the calendar year, we will use the nationwide age groupings of August 1st to July 31st date range for safety and fairness.



We cannot organize strictly by "Grade" because grade levels are variable, whereas birth dates are factual. "

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

Playing up leading to 23 or even 24+ month difference is a club and league concern.

See Colorado Rapids.

"Physical Safety: We already see significant physical differences within a standard 12-month age gap. If we were to widen that window to 24+ months (as seen in strict grade-based grouping), the physical disparity becomes dangerous. A "held-back" 13-year-old competing against a young 11-year-old in the same grade poses a real safety concern.
Developmental Fairness: When age gaps widen beyond 12 months, the disparity in talent and physical maturity widens considerably. Keeping the grouping within the August 1–July 31 window ensures players compete with and against peers of similar physiological, emotional, and social maturity."

Just because you dont understand math doesnt mean we all have to suffer.

Leagues have no rules about playing up.

Colorado has rules they defined for their club.

What club in DC area allows picking to play up? Put up or shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC area

Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Its also humorous that you obviously dont understand how gade cutoffs work. All your grades are off by one. You're trying to spin a narative and dont understand math.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ~ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ~ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ~ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ~ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ~ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ~ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ~ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ~ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ~ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ~ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ~ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ~ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ~ Kindergarten

[Anonymous]

This is the only one where grades not off.

Fall 26

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ≤ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ≤ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ≤ Senior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ≤ Senior
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ≤ Senior
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ≤ Senior
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ≤ Senior
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ≤ Senior
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017 ≤ Senior
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ≤ Senior
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ≤ Senior
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ≤ Senior
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ≤ Senior