ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

[Anonymous]

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ~ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ~ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ~ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ~ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ~ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ~ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ~ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ~ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ~ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ~ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ~ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ~ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ~ Kindergarten

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

[Anonymous]

DMV

Fall 2026

U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you they will still have trapped player rules? For example my son was born June 15 2012 he will be an 8th grader next year when his teammates are in high school.

It would make sense for ECNL to allow trapped players to play like they have in years past to not lose these kids to MLSN.

This was my comment, my son was not held back but the school district gave the option for a late start for boys to mature.
He will be 18 his senior year so not really that old as that’s most kids.

But my point was some kids will still fall under the trapped as he will be 8th grade and his teams are going to 9th. We are considering a switch to MLSN as they are Birth Year and so it won’t have an effect on him.

Was just curious if anyone heard anything about trapped players for next year. Currently my kids ECNL club let trapped 8th graders play a few games while high school was going on.

Redo your made up narrative. He didn't start late.

You held your son back before even starting school. It doesnt change anything because you choose to start school late. You held your kid back and. now need to live with the repercussions.

They didn't. They sent him on time. June 2012 birth should go to 8 the grade next year. Their made up story didn't math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you they will still have trapped player rules? For example my son was born June 15 2012 he will be an 8th grader next year when his teammates are in high school.

It would make sense for ECNL to allow trapped players to play like they have in years past to not lose these kids to MLSN.

This was my comment, my son was not held back but the school district gave the option for a late start for boys to mature.
He will be 18 his senior year so not really that old as that’s most kids.

But my point was some kids will still fall under the trapped as he will be 8th grade and his teams are going to 9th. We are considering a switch to MLSN as they are Birth Year and so it won’t have an effect on him.

Was just curious if anyone heard anything about trapped players for next year. Currently my kids ECNL club let trapped 8th graders play a few games while high school was going on.

Redo your made up narrative. He didn't start late.

You held your son back before even starting school. It doesnt change anything because you choose to start school late. You held your kid back and. now need to live with the repercussions.

They didn't. They sent him on time. June 2012 birth should go to 8 the grade next year. Their made up story didn't math.

Grade cutoff is Sept in NVA. Their kid had a June birthday.. They held their kid back, it just happened in 1st grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

Will wishcasting no proof. Kids go to school late, early, skip grades, get held back. Not all teams will be on grade because of this and because most travel teams don't know or care what grade kids are in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

Will wishcasting no proof. Kids go to school late, early, skip grades, get held back. Not all teams will be on grade because of this and because most travel teams don't know or care what grade kids are in.

No, you are setting unsuspecting parents up for holding their kid back in school if Aug birthdays play down a grade.

What will happen is college coaches won't pay attention to them because they're playing down. So to address parents will hold their kid back in school to align grade in school and level played in club and get another year of recruiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

Its called math which is probably something you're not familiar with. (I'm familiar with spelling also.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

Will wishcasting no proof. Kids go to school late, early, skip grades, get held back. Not all teams will be on grade because of this and because most travel teams don't know or care what grade kids are in.

No, you are setting unsuspecting parents up for holding their kid back in school if Aug birthdays play down a grade.

What will happen is college coaches won't pay attention to them because they're playing down. So to address parents will hold their kid back in school to align grade in school and level played in club and get another year of recruiting.

Clubs in DC won't allow choosing to play up.so your wrong.

And your rando opinion has already been proven wrong.

Eastside FC said college coaches don't care what age group you are in. Play wherever, college coaches evaluate transfers, redshirts, foreign and HS players from good and bad teams. They take the best fits regardless of team the recruits play for.

Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Playing up could cause a 23 month difference. Probably why DC area teams don't let players choose to play up.

This makes no sense. You're sayjng schools allow kids to be two years advanced in grades?

How many kids have you met that skipped a grade? How many have you met that skipped two grades?

Even if a kid was to skip a grade it means that now they have to compete with players in that grade if they want to play in college.

Its called math which is probably something you're not familiar with. (I'm familiar with spelling also.)

Again even if they skipped a grade in school. If you want to get recruited by college coaches players will need to play on the team thats their graduating year / grade in school. Or you'll be ignored because you're not playing at the same level as your "grade in school cohorts".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so unhinged. It was cool when there was some sort of "breaking news", but what are we even arguing about now?

Age guy wants older players (holdbacks in school) to play down against up to 36 month youger players in leagues and events.

If Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team all players on the field for games are the same grade in school. Which is what college coaches want.

If college coaches get what they want theres no reason to play older players down against younger players.

This is why age guy is fighting so hard against Aug birthday players playing on the correct grade in school teams.

What club in the DMV allows kids to pick playing up if the club deams there talent not good enough?

If you cant show one with this policy, your point is mute.

Repost saying someone they want kids playing down 36 months or shut up about your myth.

I've gone through the math with you before but sure I'll explain it again.

School cutoff is say Sept 1st. This means Sept 1st and presumably one year younger will all be in a specific grade.

if a kid was born on Sept 1st and held back two times which is the max schools allow they will be 36 months older than a kid born on Aug 31st (youngest possible for that grade).

Nice belligerence.

Ok, so no clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids).

Its called math which is probabaly somehting you're not familiar with.

Nice dodge again.

No clubs allow choosing to play up around here and nobody asking for GY at showcases (except you for Aug kids). But you keep complaining about nothing.

Watch what rosters look like for top teams this fall. All players will magically be the same grade in school.

If you want to really see whats going on look at the 8th grade teams which almost always will have all players the same graduating year (grade in school).

Will wishcasting no proof. Kids go to school late, early, skip grades, get held back. Not all teams will be on grade because of this and because most travel teams don't know or care what grade kids are in.

No, you are setting unsuspecting parents up for holding their kid back in school if Aug birthdays play down a grade.

What will happen is college coaches won't pay attention to them because they're playing down. So to address parents will hold their kid back in school to align grade in school and level played in club and get another year of recruiting.

Clubs in DC won't allow choosing to play up.so your wrong.

And your rando opinion has already been proven wrong.

Eastside FC said college coaches don't care what age group you are in. Play wherever, college coaches evaluate transfers, redshirts, foreign and HS players from good and bad teams. They take the best fits regardless of team the recruits play for.

Will this impact college recruiting?
The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team.

Again, college coaches dont care about age because graduating year / grade in school is all that matters to them.

If Aug birthday players play down and are misaligned they will get ignored by college coaches when they're looking to get recruited.