Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember

Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.

No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.

While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.

I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.

This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.

Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.

Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.

To be fair, both sides are a disaster for educational policy. Mcps was once a nationally acclaimed district and now it’s a total mess. Go visit the dcum mcps and private school forums to hear from shocked parents on just how far mcps has fallen. We can’t place all the blame on Hogan; our local Dem leaders destroyed our public schools.

FTR, I am a Dem and I’ll probably just vote for Alsobrooks…but let’s not pretend that she’s awesome, and let’s not pretend that Hogan is awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember

Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.

No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.

While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.

I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.

This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.

Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.

Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.

To be fair, both sides are a disaster for educational policy. Mcps was once a nationally acclaimed district and now it’s a total mess. Go visit the dcum mcps and private school forums to hear from shocked parents on just how far mcps has fallen. We can’t place all the blame on Hogan; our local Dem leaders destroyed our public schools.

FTR, I am a Dem and I’ll probably just vote for Alsobrooks…but let’s not pretend that she’s awesome, and let’s not pretend that Hogan is awful.

I don't think *Hogan* is awful. But I do think giving Republicans the Senate would be awful, and that's what voting for Hogan might do.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/politics/angela-alsobrooks-improper-tax-deductions/index.html

Link to cnn front page article on ALSOBROOKS’ tax issues.

It’s hard to tell if she’s unethical or just clueless when it comes to managing real estate and property taxes. I suppose neither reason is great.

It seems like a nothing burger to me. She payed her grandmothers mortgage in DC. A homestead exemption was in place and I guess she didn’t remove it after her grandmother died. Who knows if she was even aware.

She also left her homestead exemption in place for her first PG County home when she moved to a new home, but this meant she lost money since she didn’t transfer it to the more expensive place. This seems like a technicality that is definitely nbd.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember

Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.

No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.

While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.

I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.

This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.

Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.

Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.

To be fair, both sides are a disaster for educational policy. Mcps was once a nationally acclaimed district and now it’s a total mess. Go visit the dcum mcps and private school forums to hear from shocked parents on just how far mcps has fallen. We can’t place all the blame on Hogan; our local Dem leaders destroyed our public schools.

FTR, I am a Dem and I’ll probably just vote for Alsobrooks…but let’s not pretend that she’s awesome, and let’s not pretend that Hogan is awful.

I don't think *Hogan* is awful. But I do think giving Republicans the Senate would be awful, and that's what voting for Hogan might do.

Yes, this is the essential distinction. The only thing that matters now is Senate control and the Supreme Court.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember

Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.

No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.

While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.

I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.

This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.

Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.

Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.

PP here. I wouldn't use that as an example. The Democrats haven't been much better. They were largely responsible for the disaster to schools and kids during covid.

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Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

But Alsobrooks has that PG grifter vibe.

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Hogan really isn't as unique as he wants people to believe. Many republicans dislike trump, but at the end of the day, they're still hardcore conservatives who will block everything that Kamala Harris wants to do, including any Supreme Court justices she wants to appoint. Thankfully, it seems like Maryland voters are too smart to hall for Hogan's scam, as Alsobrooks has pretty healthy margins in recent polling.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan really isn't as unique as he wants people to believe. Many republicans dislike trump, but at the end of the day, they're still hardcore conservatives who will block everything that Kamala Harris wants to do, including any Supreme Court justices she wants to appoint. Thankfully, it seems like Maryland voters are too smart to hall for Hogan's scam, as Alsobrooks has pretty healthy margins in recent polling.

Don't take anything for granted.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

But Alsobrooks has that PG grifter vibe.

Only if you're the kind of bigot who was never going to vote for her anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

But Alsobrooks has that PG grifter vibe.

Comments like this have that :White sheets and tiki torch vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

But Alsobrooks has that PG grifter vibe.

Comments like this have that :White sheets and tiki torch vibe.

100%

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is all sizzle no substance. Marylanders mostly think fondly of him because he survoved cancer and had a Dem legislature. He has no accomplishments as Gov besides killing transportation projects and that boondoggle to get defective masks from South Korea.

But Alsobrooks has that PG grifter vibe.

Comments like this have that :White sheets and tiki torch vibe.

Wow. Deep thoughts.

BTW:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/politics/angela-alsobrooks-improper-tax-deductions/index.html

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Hogan is a republican
Hogan stands for installation of Project 2025

If you vote for him you are Unamerican to the core

This is not hard.

America vs Republicans installing Project 2025
America vs Dictator Trump , Putin, xi
America vs Stephen Miller Mr hitler in charge of deportations camps etc

America vs Mike Flynn and his sycophants

See not a hard choice unless you are stupid

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember

Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.

No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.

While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.

I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.

This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.

Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.

Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.

Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.

To be fair, both sides are a disaster for educational policy. Mcps was once a nationally acclaimed district and now it’s a total mess. Go visit the dcum mcps and private school forums to hear from shocked parents on just how far mcps has fallen. We can’t place all the blame on Hogan; our local Dem leaders destroyed our public schools.

FTR, I am a Dem and I’ll probably just vote for Alsobrooks…but let’s not pretend that she’s awesome, and let’s not pretend that Hogan is awful.

I don't think *Hogan* is awful. But I do think giving Republicans the Senate would be awful, and that's what voting for Hogan might do.

Yes, this is the essential distinction. The only thing that matters now is Senate control and the Supreme Court.

+1 it's depressing but this is the only rational way to think about American politics any more.