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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

And if he wants to be more than a 1 term senator for Maryland he cannot fall in line with the MAGAs. I’m pretty sure after governing this blue state for 8 years he is aware of what he can and can’t do if he wants to serve more than 1 term.

He wants to run for President

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Why should Democrats cross party lines to vote for Hogan when Hogan isn’t willing to cross party lines and vote for Harris?

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

And if he wants to be more than a 1 term senator for Maryland he cannot fall in line with the MAGAs. I’m pretty sure after governing this blue state for 8 years he is aware of what he can and can’t do if he wants to serve more than 1 term.

He wants to run for President

I hope he does because I would gladly vote for him then too.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Because earlier in the campaign when talking to Marylanders in public he said he didn’t want and wouldn’t accept Trump’s endorsement. Now in private he is bragging about he has Trump’s endorsement.

It’s emblematic of how his whole campaign is a deceptive attempt to appear moderate when really he is just another member of Trump’s party.

^^^ THIS

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

This person pays absolutely no attention to Republican politics. All that you have to do is look at Trump's administration where a number of Republicans regularly thwarted his agenda... Romney, Murkowski, etc. If you look at Supreme Court nominees, you will also see that Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Hogan would be no different because he knows that he would not be re-elected.

Most MAGA would consider Hogan to be part of the same RINO club (even if they would vote for him over Alsobrooks.)

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

This person pays absolutely no attention to Republican politics. All that you have to do is look at Trump's administration where a number of Republicans regularly thwarted his agenda... Romney, Murkowski, etc. If you look at Supreme Court nominees, you will also see that Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Hogan would be no different because he knows that he would not be re-elected.

Most MAGA would consider Hogan to be part of the same RINO club (even if they would vote for him over Alsobrooks.)

“Regularly thwarted his agenda” really? The only thing I can think of is McCain voting no on Obamacare repeal but what other elements were regularly thwarted?

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

This person pays absolutely no attention to Republican politics. All that you have to do is look at Trump's administration where a number of Republicans regularly thwarted his agenda... Romney, Murkowski, etc. If you look at Supreme Court nominees, you will also see that Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Hogan would be no different because he knows that he would not be re-elected.

Most MAGA would consider Hogan to be part of the same RINO club (even if they would vote for him over Alsobrooks.)

That "etc." is doing a lot of work there.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

This person pays absolutely no attention to Republican politics. All that you have to do is look at Trump's administration where a number of Republicans regularly thwarted his agenda... Romney, Murkowski, etc. If you look at Supreme Court nominees, you will also see that Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Hogan would be no different because he knows that he would not be re-elected.

Most MAGA would consider Hogan to be part of the same RINO club (even if they would vote for him over Alsobrooks.)

All of Trump’s SC nominees were confirmed. The only thing thing Trump wanted that was “thwarted” was ACA repeal, and that was because John McCain knew he was nearing the end of his life, would never seek political office again, and actually cared more about his legacy than his political future, which was finished. It was a sui generis moment, a perfect storm we will almost certainly never witness again.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

And if he wants to be more than a 1 term senator for Maryland he cannot fall in line with the MAGAs. I’m pretty sure after governing this blue state for 8 years he is aware of what he can and can’t do if he wants to serve more than 1 term.

He wants to run for President

I hope he does because I would gladly vote for him then too.

Same here. I was very disappointed he didn't run in the primaries.

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He’s toast. There is no future for him in the Republican party

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Anonymous wrote:He’s toast. There is no future for him in the Republican party

I actually think if Trump loses there is a future for him. Most of Trump’s MAGA candidates failed (see the “red wave” that never materialized), so even if Alsobrooks wins, I hope there is a place for him. If Harris is serious about wanting moderate Republicans to have a seat at the table, he should be on her short list for some post.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s toast. There is no future for him in the Republican party

I actually think if Trump loses there is a future for him. Most of Trump’s MAGA candidates failed (see the “red wave” that never materialized), so even if Alsobrooks wins, I hope there is a place for him. If Harris is serious about wanting moderate Republicans to have a seat at the table, he should be on her short list for some post.

He talks about “country over party” but can’t even bring himself to vote for her so that tells me he isn’t serious about it and he certainly doesn’t belong in a Harris administration.

And what accomplishments does he even have? That he torqued state spending on transportation away from blue areas towards property he owned.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s toast. There is no future for him in the Republican party

I actually think if Trump loses there is a future for him. Most of Trump’s MAGA candidates failed (see the “red wave” that never materialized), so even if Alsobrooks wins, I hope there is a place for him. If Harris is serious about wanting moderate Republicans to have a seat at the table, he should be on her short list for some post.

He talks about “country over party” but can’t even bring himself to vote for her so that tells me he isn’t serious about it and he certainly doesn’t belong in a Harris administration.

And what accomplishments does he even have? That he torqued state spending on transportation away from blue areas towards property he owned.

I was wondering about that too.

Don't forget his accomplishment of requiring all school districts to open after Labor Day, because that was good for Ocean City tourism, and then the General Assembly said Nah, we'll let the school districts make their own decisions.

In general, his "moderation" consists of having to be governor in a state with a Democratic supermajority in both houses of the state legislature. He came in hot to go Republican in 2014-2015 but then found out the limits.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahahahahahaha not such a Trump hater after all. What a stooge.

I read the article and I don’t think what he said was “touting” Trump’s endorsement in the context of what was being discussed on the call.

Yes, you're right, he wasn't touting Trump's endorsement, he was just repeatedly citing Trump's endorsement as a reason for why Trump supporters would vote for him. After previously having said in public that he would reject Trump's endorsement.

And we're supposed to trust this guy when he says he won't fall in line with the all the other Republicans?

I’m not seeing how discussing the fact that he may have an issue getting support from Trump’s hard core followers and saying well we should point out to them that Trump endorsed me and their other option is a left wing liberal is “touting” or disingenuous in any way. It’s a pragmatic statement.

Correct. It's a pragmatic statement that, despite everything he says, the reality is that he will fall in line with all the other Republicans. Perhaps - like Susan Collins - he might deplore a bit, before he votes with them.

I’m not seeing how that equates to he will fall in line with all the other Republicans, but you see what you want to see 🙄

He's said he will caucus with republicans. The most important vote that a senator makes is for majority leader. 90% of the rest is posturing because all that matters is that party that controls the senate controls the agenda.

FFS get yourself off of rote talking points and actually keep up with the thread of conversation if you feel you need to add to it. We were talking specifically about the call to donors reported by CNN.

DP. That's what I'm talking about. The call to donors, reported by CNN, where he cited Trump's endorsement, which he has not rejected, as a reason why Trump supporters will vote for him.

To the non-Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, I will be independent!
To the Trump voters, he's saying: it's ok to vote for me, Trump has endorsed me!

Which should we believe? They can't both be true.

This is where you are lacking critical thinking. Telling Trumps most hard core Maryland supporters (which is a pretty small number) listen, me and your guy don’t like or agree with each other, but he endorsed me because I’m way better than the alternative so perhaps you should consider supporting me, does not equate to telling those voters once I get to the Senate I’m going full MAGA.

If Hogan thinks he's ever going to be free to deviate from MAGA if he's in the Senate, he has not been paying attention for the past 8 years.

Yep, here’s how it works: They will allow Hogan to deviate from MAGA orthodoxy if his vote is not needed. If Hogan’s vote *is* needed, however, he will do as he is told. Hogan will provide the decisive vote for Trump’s SC nominees and he will never ever give Democrats the 51st vote needed to block Trump’s SC nominees. There is no chance that Harris and Hogan will both win.

This person pays absolutely no attention to Republican politics. All that you have to do is look at Trump's administration where a number of Republicans regularly thwarted his agenda... Romney, Murkowski, etc. If you look at Supreme Court nominees, you will also see that Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted for Ketanji Brown Jackson. Hogan would be no different because he knows that he would not be re-elected.

Most MAGA would consider Hogan to be part of the same RINO club (even if they would vote for him over Alsobrooks.)

And they also voted for Kavanaugh after being assured of his "respect for precedent." And we all know how that turned out.