Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


Why do you think he would vote the party line?

Are you familiar with his bipartisan credentials, including the org he co-created with Joe Lieberman? Hogan is a favorite guest on CNN where they praise his businesslike, moderate approach to leadership.

I’m a lifelong Marylander and I’m old enough to remember tons of Dems voting for Connie Morella who was lauded as a moderate, enjoyed broad support, and then eventually voted the party line. Once it became clear she had shifted right and was beholden to the R’s, she lost her seat. I’m sure Hogan is smart enough to realize he needs to stick to the middle if he wants to win…and keep his seat.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.


Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.
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Alsobrooks has shady tax problems in MD and D.C. per WTOP reporting. She has claimed property tax breaks for which isn’t eligible over a number of years.
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Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks has shady tax problems in MD and D.C. per WTOP reporting. She has claimed property tax breaks for which isn’t eligible over a number of years.


This news broke me on CNN and is currently on the top of their site. Hopefully it will give Hogan some good material for ads in the coming weeks.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/politics/angela-alsobrooks-improper-tax-deductions/index.html

Link to cnn front page article on ALSOBROOKS’ tax issues.

It’s hard to tell if she’s unethical or just clueless when it comes to managing real estate and property taxes. I suppose neither reason is great.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


Why do you think he would vote the party line?

Are you familiar with his bipartisan credentials, including the org he co-created with Joe Lieberman? Hogan is a favorite guest on CNN where they praise his businesslike, moderate approach to leadership.

I’m a lifelong Marylander and I’m old enough to remember tons of Dems voting for Connie Morella who was lauded as a moderate, enjoyed broad support, and then eventually voted the party line. Once it became clear she had shifted right and was beholden to the R’s, she lost her seat. I’m sure Hogan is smart enough to realize he needs to stick to the middle if he wants to win…and keep his seat.


The GOP has lined up a dangerous agenda for the future of American democracy, and the next four years are going to be critical. Sure, maybe Hogan only serves one term if he votes straight line with his party, but those four years might be the most critical ones in American history since the 18th century. Not sure I want to roll the dice on that when I have the option to vote for a competent Democrat who has *also* shown common sense bona fides on crime and other issues.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.


Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.


Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


Why do you think he would vote the party line?

Are you familiar with his bipartisan credentials, including the org he co-created with Joe Lieberman? Hogan is a favorite guest on CNN where they praise his businesslike, moderate approach to leadership.

I’m a lifelong Marylander and I’m old enough to remember tons of Dems voting for Connie Morella who was lauded as a moderate, enjoyed broad support, and then eventually voted the party line. Once it became clear she had shifted right and was beholden to the R’s, she lost her seat. I’m sure Hogan is smart enough to realize he needs to stick to the middle if he wants to win…and keep his seat.


You can't possibly be this naive.

It would be great to go back to a time when votes didn't go right down the party line. But that's not going to happen with current Republican leadership. Voting Hogan in wouldn't change that- it would just help put Republican leadership in charge of the agenda.

And did you really forget Lieberman left the Democratic party?
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17% is a lot Undecideds for the Senate race. It will significantly tighten by Election Day with momentum toward Hogan. My prediction? The Senate race will be uncomfortably close but Alsobrooks will ultimately prevail. Harris will win POTUS by 25-28 points, but less than Biden in 2020 with 33 points over Trump.

Lots of white dudes in MD who like Hogan, even if they despise Trump.


Let’s hope that the white dudes who like Hogan also understand how important it is to vote with the hope of a Democratic Senate.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.


When it comes to it, Hogan will vote with the R's and further erode rights and support moneyed interests. There is absolutely no reason to believe he is a better leader than that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching ads where Hogan's surrogates say he supports Roe.
Has Hogan ever publicly stated that?
I guess they're hoping no one remembers his prior acts, but I definitely remember


Hogan will lose because of abortion…and that’s a dumb reason for a very popular former governor to lose.

If he wants to win, he needs to do a commercial saying he’s evolved on his stance on a woman’s right to choose and will fight for it. Then he should remind everyone of his otherwise moderate record.

If he just sticks with his current approach he will lose.



No one will believe him and they shouldn’t.

These R’a are the dog that caught the car with Dobbs— thought they could suck up to anti-choice voters without any negative consequences for women’s lives or their own careers.


While I agree most republicans can’t be trusted, Hogan demonstrated that he is a rationale leader…mostly.

As a very liberal Democrat with a SJW day job, I was pleasantly surprised to see him engage in criminal justice reform and support commonsense lefty policies that most republicans wouldn’t have entertained. My biggest beef with Hogan is his completely irrational stereotype of MoCo still being a white, affluent county that doesn’t need state support. I mean, get real!

I think if he spent the next 6 weeks using a stump speech leading with his changed stance on abortion followed by his popular record as our governor, he just might win. If he doesn’t shift his talking points, he will lose.

ALSOBROOKS isn’t perfect. And she’s untested. It’s doubtful she will get much done in Washington whereas Hogan is equipped to be a consensus builder focused on bipartisanship. I’d consider voting for him if he publicly stated he is now pro-choice and explain why…and commit to fighting to protect choice.



I agree with all of this but it’s still pointless in the end. He will vote the party line, including SC justice appointments. Shame that’s where we are, but nope.


This. There's no way the pp you responded to is actually a Democrat. We've seen what the Republicans do when they hold the Senate. It would be one thing if Hogan were independent and agreed to caucus with the Democrats, but that obviously isn't going to happen.


Trust me, I’m a lifelong Dem.

ICYMI: thx only reason Hogan won and was re-elected was his moderate approach and track record.

But the current reality of abortion rights is a stark reminder that we must only send pro-choice leaders who are committed to fighting for our rights to congress.

He needs to make bold statements and commitments if he wants to win.


Hogan won't do that. He might not vote for national-level legislation further restricting abortion, but you know he'll go along with whoever Republican leadership puts up for the Supreme Court. And he'll vote to put a Republican in charge of Senate business, preventing reasonable measures from ever getting to the floor. And he'll vote with Republicans on procedural matters, limiting the ability of Democrats to mount filibusters to block ridiculous policies.

You haven't been paying attentional to national level politics for the last 30 years if you don't realize Hogan would be a disaster. It isn't so much Hogan himself, but what the Republicans do when they hold leadership.

Though, you also have a skewed view of Hogan. Hogan was limited in what he could do as Governor because the Democrats held the legislature. That made him look more moderate than he actually is.


Exactly. He was a disaster for educational policy.
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