US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there



Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.


Agreed. Sometimes they are very funny. This one kind of stank.


It’s never funny.


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Jackson is the most experienced trial court judge to join the Supreme Court in almost a century.

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She is first justice with substantial criminal defense experience since Thurgood Marshall retired in 1991.

She was one of three-judges on the D.C. Circuit that rejected Trump's attempt to keep the National Archives and Records Administration from turning over his White House records to the House select committee investigating the January 6 assault.
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Anonymous wrote:Students can still discuss how race affected their lives in college essays according to today's US Supreme Court opinion.

College applications cannot have boxes to check indicating an applicant's race.


However, unlike many on this board kept arrogantly asserting, the end of Roberts' opinion clearly specifies that universities MAY NOT use essays or any other soft means to set up essentially the same system in effect today. That means they cannot use a "back door" to still discriminate via soft methods. So, sorry racist people on DCUM, your dreams are shattered lol


There are so many "soft methods" that you can't even imagine.

The elite colleges and universities will continue to amass a super-diverse enrollment. Ha!


Cool story bro. Look what happened to URM enrollment in the states that banned affirmative action previously


Those state schools can't be compared to Harvard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process


Because they aren't diverse!
Maybe take risks, be a comedian, or play drums for a rock band. Or apply to the school of social work.
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Anonymous wrote:It's ironical that the SC, whose composition has always been dictated by race and gender, has delivered judgement on a case on race.


Not always.

I guess the ruling isn’t that surprising - all of the white dudes on SCOTUS are conservative and anti-AA. They effective are saying they don’t think the other five justices should be there.

And ACB and CT are crazeballs extremist nutters.



Why is a left-wing nutter like you denying that the composition of the SC has always been race/sex based… you don’t think hundreds of years of only white men on the court was the result of race/sex-based policies in this country???
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I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.


The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?
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Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process


Because they aren't diverse!
Maybe take risks, be a comedian, or play drums for a rock band. Or apply to the school of social work.


Asians had better scores on ECs and Leadership.

They are very diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process


Because they aren't diverse!
Maybe take risks, be a comedian, or play drums for a rock band. Or apply to the school of social work.


What's school of social work??

Isn't it the money grabbing Master's degree with terrible outcomes?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.


The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?


Understand yield duh
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.


The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?


I believe that colleges should reflect the college-going population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On a serious note, can we do fingerprinting for the SAT and all standardized tests? Can we work more on improving the validity of grades?


Standardized testing was rendered even less relevant with today's ruling.

Test optional will be a mainstay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.


If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.


You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.


+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.


Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.


Not a single HBCU has the department / major my DS is looking for. To be fair, most don't.

And he will be in college to learn - not for the comfortable social life.


No he’s in college to get a job and will be overlooked during hiring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.


The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?


I believe that colleges should reflect the college-going population.



Here’s some data:
The overall college enrollment rate for 18- to 24-year-olds increased from
35 percent in 2000 to 41 percent in 2018. In 2018, the college enrollment rate was higher for 18- to 24-year-olds who were Asian (59 percent) than for 18- to 24-year- olds who were White (42 percent), Black (37 percent), and Hispanic (36 percent).

I’m too lazy to find and multiply these numbers by each race’s representation in the overall population. Someone else can do that.
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