US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

[Anonymous]

If colleges are relying on essay responses about URM life experiences rather than URM status, would that reduce the pool of identified-URMs (for lack of a better term; i.e., those known to the admissions office) within the college's broader applicant pool, and accordingly increase the chances for those particular URM applicants?

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What made Blacks have more barrier than Asians?????????????????

If you have to ask that question, then you really need some American history lessons. Go read some books on Black history. Look at how the jail system was created to house Black males. Look at the 0% proficiency in math and science in Baltimore schools. Look at my parents and everyone in their generation who were denied housing, jobs, credit and in many cases dignity. Look at the Lynch papers - look at the people in charge through the years to followed very specific requirements to ensure Black people did not advance. And then look at Black immigrants from anywhere in the World and how they come here and excel. Being born Black in American is more than a barrier. The Black person has to shift their entire life trajectory to overcome systems put in place to keep them down. Asians and immigrants have created their own systems to ensure they can "beat the system" in place. These same systems are not possible for many in the Black community who are struggling with systems that keep them down. You really need to read more about history.

Sounds like mostly their own fault.  
Most of the Asian countries were ruins 50 years ago from war and stuff.  
Immigrants came from there with huge language and cultural barriers.

Slavery vastly is different than war. In slavery, you have to convince a group of people that they are in fact not people at all but are property. The psychological warfare over hundreds of years that includes splitting up and selling family members is nothing like war. The fact that you made these comments shows that you are completely unaware. It is disgusting.




Ignorant liberals know nothing about the world history of colonialism. There was plenty of oppression that Asians suffered due to race in the US and around the world that prevented them from participating in US rights and benefits as well.

And lots of history of Black Africans ethnically cleansing Asians in a racist way when their countries got independence. So spare me the afro-centeic interpretation of oppression.

If you go back in history long enough every race and each person's ancestors were enslaved or oppressed in some way. The world literacy rate has been low through most of history.

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Anonymous wrote:If colleges are relying on essay responses about URM life experiences rather than URM status, would that reduce the pool of identified-URMs (for lack of a better term; i.e., those known to the admissions office) within the college's broader applicant pool, and accordingly increase the chances for those particular URM applicants?

I think people are overestimating this dynamic-they said if race plays a role in their appealing personal story (the same way other experiences can illustrate a quality colleges want) that’s fine but the schools clearly need to be substantively in compliance-it’s not like people can do jazz hands “and I’m Black” in the essay and colleges will snap them up.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how people are missing the fact that AA largely benefits WHITE WOMEN.

This is true.

As if race and sex for white women is not taken into consideration seems to be the idea a lot of white people have.

white women are the biggest beneficiaries for affirmative action.

Not a coincidence that there are many coed colleges where the female population is higher than males since AA was instituted. Yes, majority are white women.

William and Mary is an example.

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Race/%college/%USpopulation
Asian: .59*.08= 4.7% = 4.7/41.5 =11.3%
White: .42*.59=24.8% = 59.7
Black: .37*.14= 5.2% = 12.5
Hispanic: .36*.19= 6.8% = 16.4

The last column is the answer you’re seeking. If college demographics at every college reflected both a race’s college-going rate and their representation in the US, the racial profile would be Asian 11%, White 60%, Black 13%, and Hispanic 16%.

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I am also curious how this effect college admissions in the coming years. I just went through this process this year. I have another in two years.

I'm not sure how the SCOTUS ruling will change the college admissions process. Some have posted opinions that not much will change. Others think it will benefit those outside of "rich" zip codes.

All my life I was told good grades and a good SAT/ACT score will get you into a good school "granted - I am old". I think that is still true, although getting into even a great state school is difficult.

Inflated grades from publics, test optional now seem to the new norm. I'm of the opinion that college admissions are now the same as buying a lottery ticket. GPAs and SAT/ACT scores no longer matter.

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Race/%college/%USpopulation
Asian: .59*.08= 4.7% = 4.7/41.5 =11.3%
White: .42*.59=24.8% = 59.7
Black: .37*.14= 5.2% = 12.5
Hispanic: .36*.19= 6.8% = 16.4

The last column is the answer you’re seeking. If college demographics at every college reflected both a race’s college-going rate and their representation in the US, the racial profile would be Asian 11%, White 60%, Black 13%, and Hispanic 16%.

But blacks and Hispanics disproportionately go to less competitive and for-profit colleges and Asians disproportionately go to competitive admission colleges. Races are not applying proportionately to competitive colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.

The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?

I believe that colleges should reflect the college-going population.

In a communist society maybe. We ain't one..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how people are missing the fact that AA largely benefits WHITE WOMEN.

This is true.

As if race and sex for white women is not taken into consideration seems to be the idea a lot of white people have.

white women are the biggest beneficiaries for affirmative action.

Not a coincidence that there are many coed colleges where the female population is higher than males since AA was instituted. Yes, majority are white women.

William and Mary is an example.

White women are represented in colleges at the rates you would expect based on their academic credentials; there’s no affirmative action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that government funded schools like the military academies should represent the population.

The population overall? The population of high school students?

Quick look at the Census site says Virginia is:

58% white
20% black
10% Hispanic
7% Asian
the rest are multi-racial

Just to pick one school, UVA is
65% white
8% Black
9% Hispanics
18% Asian
the rest multi-racial

They can accept people, but that doesn’t mean those people will actually decide to go there, so how does that work?

I believe that colleges should reflect the college-going population.

Circular. It would be constitutional for all colleges to bar all students of any given race, because then the college-going population of that race would be zero.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The QWEEN has spoken.

From Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris:

Why the "W" ???

It creates a (sort of) term of endearment.

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Anonymous wrote:The Babylon bee satire:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFXq-ivz1S/?igshid=MTIzZWMxMTBkOA==

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-supreme-court-rules-against-affirmative-action-with-affirmative-action-hire-standing-right-there

Not the Bee’s best. Lame and rude.

It is satire

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Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process

Because they aren't diverse!
Maybe take risks, be a comedian, or play drums for a rock band. Or apply to the school of social work.

It might just be that the resume of many asians look the same, they have tiger-mom'd their way towards college and all have done very similar stuff for their resume. Just like a lot of rich white kids have done. Want to gain admissions, be different. Fact is 96% get rejected and probably 90-95% of those would all make excellent candidates but obviously not all can get selected

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Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.

If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.

You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.

+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.

Agree. My DC has a 4.0 uw GPA taking the most rigorous classes. DC wants diversity, but would rather go to an HBCU than be 1 of 300 black undergrads on campus. Many great schools that are on their list get eliminated once the lack of diversity is discovered.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UNC has spoken:

Could’ve been a stronger response!