US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.


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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.




It’s up to each state to determine in women have bodily autonomy?

That’s the same as saying they don’t definitely have bodily autonomy.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.




It’s up to each state to determine in women have bodily autonomy?

That’s the same as saying they don’t definitely have bodily autonomy.


It's up to each state to have related laws.
If your state says abortion is ok into 5th moths of pregnancy, the Fed can't say anything.
If the people of your State want that, they can have it. Vote for it.
Anonymous
Ok, if systemic racism exists, what are you doing in schools to counter the effects of it? In many situations Dems run the state, city, & school boards. Tell me what you are doing to help the kids thrive in the face of this systemic racism. You won’t answer the question, so let me help: accuse math of being racist. Now it’s your turn.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.

Agree, but when a college uses artificial "likeability" metrics to put a thumb on the scale for lower scoring URM, that is discrimination.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


Please describe how any college can reject any student without engaging in discrimination.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


Please describe how any college can reject any student without engaging in discrimination.


If you weren't aware, we are talking about racial discrimination in this tread.
It's kind of given, so I didn't bother to spell it out.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.

You are very confused. Asian Americans are not over represented based on the number of applicants. It doesn't matter how many Asian Americans there are in the general population since the general population isn't applying to Harvard.

The Harvard case showed that Asian American applicants scored high in every measurable metric, except the "likeability" metric, which is highly subjective, and not only that, the AOs never even met the applicant, but scored them low. Whereas, the interviewer who did meet the applicant, scored them as likeable. IMO, that was the gotcha in the case.

Data analysis is very important, but clearly, many progressives have issues with it.
Anonymous
I am pretty sure AAs don't have a monopoly on life's miseries. Everyone - including American Indians, SE Asians, and Europeans - has a story to tell. That's why we have applications asking for details.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.

You are very confused. Asian Americans are not over represented based on the number of applicants. It doesn't matter how many Asian Americans there are in the general population since the general population isn't applying to Harvard.

The Harvard case showed that Asian American applicants scored high in every measurable metric, except the "likeability" metric, which is highly subjective, and not only that, the AOs never even met the applicant, but scored them low. Whereas, the interviewer who did meet the applicant, scored them as likeable. IMO, that was the gotcha in the case.

Data analysis is very important, but clearly, many progressives have issues with it.


So now people have to be grouped by race and admitted in proportion to the number of applications submitted by members of their racial group? That seems inconsistent with the rule that they have to be considered as individuals.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.

You are very confused. Asian Americans are not over represented based on the number of applicants. It doesn't matter how many Asian Americans there are in the general population since the general population isn't applying to Harvard.

The Harvard case showed that Asian American applicants scored high in every measurable metric, except the "likeability" metric, which is highly subjective, and not only that, the AOs never even met the applicant, but scored them low. Whereas, the interviewer who did meet the applicant, scored them as likeable. IMO, that was the gotcha in the case.

Data analysis is very important, but clearly, many progressives have issues with it.


I believe AOs were honestly doing their job, and gave higher scores to Asians for all those metric.
It's at the higher level Admission's Committee that discriminated Asians.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.




It’s up to each state to determine in women have bodily autonomy?

That’s the same as saying they don’t definitely have bodily autonomy.


It's up to each state to have related laws.
If your state says abortion is ok into 5th moths of pregnancy, the Fed can't say anything.
If the people of your State want that, they can have it. Vote for it.


The case was not about "bodily autonomy". It's about federalism and the proper role of the feds vs. the states. Conservatives believe that the feds should not be running everything - many issues should be handled by the states. That's also what the founding fathers wanted: a small federal government to handle only those issues that the states cannot, as in taxation, stamping, and the military. They are also against an imperial presidency. Abortion was never a federal issue. Now it's being properly handled back to the states, which are closer to the people and better situated to address such issues And if you don't like the state's decision, you vote the lawmakers out. That is all.
Anonymous
Notice the lack of response to the request for what Dem politicians & educators are actually doing to ensure kids prosper despite all this systemic racism from Republicans they never get within 5 miles of.

The whole education pipeline for these kids (kindergarten through grad school) is Democrat-controlled. If educators/politicians fix anything they won’t be able to brow-beat public & private sector leaders into giving them more money (which never seems to improve anything) or promise to fix the problem every 4 years (which they never do).

Thousands of woke Education professors publish thousands of journal articles on how to fix things, but nothing gets improved. Nope, the school administrators’ & unions’ jobs are done once they blame the problem on racist Republicans & racist math.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.




It’s up to each state to determine in women have bodily autonomy?

That’s the same as saying they don’t definitely have bodily autonomy.


No you idiot. It means that the original Roe decision which miraculously found a right to privacy and hence the right to abortion in the Constitution was decided wrongly and it was finally overruled as it should have been long time ago. There is no such "right" in the Constitution. That is the honest truth, unless you want to gaslight everybody who disagrees with you by calling them a misogynist

So now people who want abortion have two choices

1) Pass a federal law giving women that right
2) Get any state to pass such a law or enshrine it in that state's constitution

For either of these, you have to make your case and win hearts and minds

Liberals are just pissed because they don't want to do the hard work and would rather the court find such a right in the constitution, so as to make it easy on them. Roe WAS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT YOUR TAKE ON RIGHT TO ABORTION IS. It should be in the dust heap of history.

Even RBG, a life long liberal thought Roe was on shaky constitutional grounds.
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Anonymous wrote:The promise of proximity to whiteness and power has radicalized so many Asian Americans.

The myth they are buying into posits that Asian Americans are a ‘good’ minority group — assimilating into the racist concept of America as a ‘melting pot’ (which is so offensive and bigoted! There is no melting pot because of white supremacy/MAGA.).

These misguided Asian Americans are led to believe they can succeed by bootstrapping themselves into the so-called “American dream.”

In reality, they will always be oppressed by pervasive white supremacy and systemic racism. So they really need to come back to the Democratic Party asap.

Dems supporting racist policies aren't endearing themselves to Asian Americans.

-signed an Asian American


It was LBJ (Democrat) who signed the Immigration and Nationality Act into law. 1965 to undue nearly a hundred years off explicitly anti Asian lawmaking.


sure, and it's Dems who keep supporting racist policies.



when a policy discriminate against a particular race, it's a racist policy. Just because the discriminated race is not black doesn't mean it's not racist.


When any particular race is OVERrepresented then they are treated favorably.


We don't live in a communist country.
Every individual should be looked as an individual independent person, not as a part of a group.
When individuals are discriminated, there is discrimination.



No individual is entitled to admissions anywhere. No discrimination.


Sorry SCOTUS made decision against your opinion.


Do you believe the Supreme Court said that every student must be admitted to every college? Because that’s what you just said.


No, the Supreme Court said there was discrimination.


They also said that women don't have bodily autonomy. They are full of shit.


They didn't say that. Why are you lying?
They said it's up to each State.
You vote for law makers in your state.




It’s up to each state to determine in women have bodily autonomy?

That’s the same as saying they don’t definitely have bodily autonomy.


No you idiot. blah blah ba blah blah, ba ba blah blah blah blah.... etc


You lost everyone and your argument at "idiot".
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