US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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It's ironical that the SC, whose composition has always been dictated by race and gender, has delivered judgement on a case on race.

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

Putting your life on the line to uphold and defend the constitution this very thread has been discussing the whole day is honorable.

Confused about that?

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

Second lieutenants are supposed to have the highest mortality rates in a way. Their job is to be at the head of the cannon fodder

It’s ludicrous to suggest that making it easier for blacks to get into West Point and like somehow puts them at higher risk than death in the military. whichever PP posted the original comment and a ton of people on this thread appear confused about what the military exception means - it’s not letting more blacks into *the military* - it’s letting them into a path up the higher ranks of the military.

100%. It's difficult to get into a service academy.

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Anonymous wrote:While it looks like Asian-Americans, especially Chinese-Americans, took the side of Republican white nationalist authoritarianism here, it's important to keep in mind that many Asian-American student organizations objected to being exploited by the Republican fascists. These young Asian-Americans are allies of people of color and are as disgusted as everyone else by today's evidence of Republican white supremacist backlash.

Everyone knows affirmative action is discriminatory (and I use the word everyone purposely and literally), it is just a question of whether its benefits outweigh its discrimination. It was clear to me and I think many when Roe was overturned that this SCOTUS couldn't give a fig about what the media and the political left thought about its decisions, so they were going to overturn the apple cart on this as well (that's two fruit metaphors for you). As for affirmative action -- it is wrong, often abused (1/4 Argentian kids with skin as white as snow somehow get an advantage), but I understand why it has lasted legally as long as it has.

Tangent but since everyone is beating up on this Court for owning the libs or something, let’s all remember that it just ruled against Alabama in a big voting rights case based on racial discrimination. That was a huge win for the left.

I'm the poster of the quote you replied to. I did not intend it to mean that the court "owned the libs" - I meant simply that this Court doesn't seem to mind upsetting the status quo and is making their decisions based on their interpretation of the law, rather than public opinion on a very emotionally charged and political issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Inadvertently, this might end up with MORE brown and black students at Harvard.
Reason, if you look at what happened in the U of Cal system. Qualified black students will avoid schools with few black students. They will gravitate to schools that have more black students. Harvard will have more applications from qualified black students who will pull out of other schools. It might become a mecca of highly qualified black students. I hope so.

If that’s the result, so be it! If ending AA HELPS Blacks getting admitted, good! Universities, governments and big corporations have been playing the race card against Asian-Americans for too long.

You don’t get it. The black students will vacate certain schools. Not because they weren’t qualified, but because there aren’t enough black students there. And what’s too long? Aw shucks a generation of “unfairness “ vs 400 years of abuse.

+1 I predict a (continued) increase in top applicants heading for HBCUs.

so they don't care about diversity

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

Entering the armed forces at a time of war - via enlisting, ROTC, or however - ups the cannon fodder odds but I highly doubt entering via West Point or another service academy makes those odds worse and it *definitely* makes the up-side career development potential much higher.

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Anonymous wrote:It's ironical that the SC, whose composition has always been dictated by race and gender, has delivered judgement on a case on race.

Your comment is moronical.

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

Entering the armed forces at a time of war - via enlisting, ROTC, or however - ups the cannon fodder odds but I highly doubt entering via West Point or another service academy makes those odds worse and it *definitely* makes the up-side career development potential much higher.

Sure but you can get the career upside from a variety of other schools without potentially endangering yourself

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

Entering the armed forces at a time of war - via enlisting, ROTC, or however - ups the cannon fodder odds but I highly doubt entering via West Point or another service academy makes those odds worse and it *definitely* makes the up-side career development potential much higher.

Sure but you can get the career upside from a variety of other schools without potentially endangering yourself

Which school? You mean by not joining the military at all? Okay, the logic of your criticism of the court’s decision is not at all clear.

[Anonymous]

We have always told our kids that now that they achieved the best 4.0 uw/4.6 gpa at a rigorous HS, 35 one - 36 the other ACT and varsity sports, president of clubs, tons of community service:

it's basically a lottery at that point for the most selective schools (3-7% acceptance). There are too many kids out there exactly like them (no matter their race). That is easy to digest. What wasn't easy to digest was the neighbor that had one out of 4 hispanic grandparent and is much wealthier than his family and have been in the US generations (early 1900s like ours) was going to get an advantage because he was going to check URM. That is off the table now.

Well, not really. That kid can now discuss it in a very creative and effective essay. I bet their Hispanic grandparent’s history is well documented. This kid probably grew up listening to stories of Hispanic’s plight in the 1900s. What makes his multi-generational family dating back to the early 1900s less important than yours? Under represented minority ≠ low socioeconomic in 2023 because of their grandparent’s sacrifices. I’d read that essay with abandon. Applying ED and URM should work very well. I’m rooting for them. Maybe your kids have their own compelling essays to write.

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Anonymous wrote:The military academy exclusion was the Supreme Court saying people of color are still needed as cannon fodder even if there is no use for them as college students. Justice Roberts (upside-down emoji face): "The Blacks can take a bullet for us, but I'll damned if them folks are allowed an education!!!"

You’re a moron. Affirmative action there means blacks become higher-ups instead of cannon fodder.

+1. What an uneducated comment. Students at these elite institutions (you do know that these schools are elite, right?) are future leaders of the government and corporations.

It depends on when you graduate. Graduating West Point when the country is at war makes you cannon fodder. Graduating 10 years or more before the country is at war makes you a leader

Entering the armed forces at a time of war - via enlisting, ROTC, or however - ups the cannon fodder odds but I highly doubt entering via West Point or another service academy makes those odds worse and it *definitely* makes the up-side career development potential much higher.

Sure but you can get the career upside from a variety of other schools without potentially endangering yourself

Nobody's forcing anybody.
You make your choices.

[Anonymous]

Yay! About time!

[Anonymous]

Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's ironical that the SC, whose composition has always been dictated by race and gender, has delivered judgement on a case on race.

Not always.

I guess the ruling isn’t that surprising - all of the white dudes on SCOTUS are conservative and anti-AA. They effective are saying they don’t think the other five justices should be there.

And ACB and CT are crazeballs extremist nutters.