Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

Anonymous
Short answer: good competition, scorching hot turf fields, massive roster. Won't do it again b/c felt like we missed out on summer downtime.
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Anonymous wrote:Don't mean to break up the discussion but just wondering how Super Y, or Super-Duper Y, was this summer for your DS or DD??? Was the travel manageable? Do soccer practices and the DMV heat make for a kind of torture? Did you find that the coaching was decent (seems like Super Y attracts college coaches looking for a moonlighting gig)? And was it fun for your DS or DD, or does soccer just fit better with fall and spring? TIA!!!


At the younger ages travel is very local, the only real game scheduling problems are the occasional weeknight games. If you went to another club it is nice to have a different coach and play with different kids. If you play at your host club it can be fun to play with some outside kids and perhaps a different coach within the club.

Super Y is nothing that anyone has to take seriously. The benefits are keeping your kid in a bit of a routine and the opportunity to play with different kids and learn from a different coach. The biggest benefit is kids go into the fall still in shape.

Also it isn't a big deal to miss a game or two and go on vacation. If you are looking for an elite, life affirming soccer experience then you will be disappointed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Back to an earlier question about how BRYC's scrimmages are going:

They had their first set of club v club scrimmage versus/at Fredericksburg two Saturdays ago. Since it is August with beach traffic and a couple fender benders it took most parents over two hours to get down there.

Last weekend and this upcoming weekend up in Boyds for tournaments.

Only other scheduled scrimmage is back down in Fredericksburg in a few weeks.


LOL
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Found this online, I was surprised by how much SUM is involved in all televised matches

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2017/8/29/16088402/mls-money-owners-sum-major-league-soccer-marketing-usa-mexico-canada
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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


There is no substitute for gong to a live professional match. Both DC United and Washington Spirit games provide a great experience and are a lot of fun for kids. Helps build good memories and foster a love for the game.

I've found that kids really like to watch other kids though, especially if they are 3-4 years older and really good players. There's an automatic coolness factor there. So I would definitely recommend going to a DA game. If your kid has goals of playing at that level, it could be motivating for him to see where he needs to be in the next few years. It would be best if he had some kind of connection to the team you are watching, whether there's a player he knows, or maybe somebody's older brother, just because it will make the game more interesting for him. If he is already in a club with a DA, then it's easy. Just go and cheer on your club. If all else fails you could always just pick one of the DA teams from DC United or Wash Spirit, not because they are any better, but he'd probably be more engaged watching them, especially if he's already been to a first team match.

When it comes to pure soccer education though, young players really do need to watch and learn from the best, and unfortunately MLS is pretty far from it. It doesn't make you a "Eurosnob" to recognize that. It just makes you a non -idiot.


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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


I believe you missed this response:

By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Check what I've quoted above, and you'll see I was referring to that. If you're the person who posted the "pro game on TV or live" post and not the response, then I agree with you. (Except that you're the one who should slow down and read, but hey, we all make mistakes.)
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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


There is no substitute for gong to a live professional match. Both DC United and Washington Spirit games provide a great experience and are a lot of fun for kids. Helps build good memories and foster a love for the game.

I've found that kids really like to watch other kids though, especially if they are 3-4 years older and really good players. There's an automatic coolness factor there. So I would definitely recommend going to a DA game. If your kid has goals of playing at that level, it could be motivating for him to see where he needs to be in the next few years. It would be best if he had some kind of connection to the team you are watching, whether there's a player he knows, or maybe somebody's older brother, just because it will make the game more interesting for him. If he is already in a club with a DA, then it's easy. Just go and cheer on your club. If all else fails you could always just pick one of the DA teams from DC United or Wash Spirit, not because they are any better, but he'd probably be more engaged watching them, especially if he's already been to a first team match.

When it comes to pure soccer education though, young players really do need to watch and learn from the best, and unfortunately MLS is pretty far from it. It doesn't make you a "Eurosnob" to recognize that. It just makes you a non -idiot.




The best is either Germany or Spain, but the broadcasts are pretty bad. English teams play very well at times, though the sheer speed of the game often overwhelms its own players.

MLS and NWSL are the best bets for seeing something live. College is OK but often too reliant on athleticism. Preseason European games that pop up every summer aren't that great -- players aren't yet in shape to play a full game, especially when it's 90 degrees out.

Watching some youth soccer isn't a bad idea. I've often wanted to take my youth teams to see kids close to their age and show them what's possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


There is no substitute for gong to a live professional match. Both DC United and Washington Spirit games provide a great experience and are a lot of fun for kids. Helps build good memories and foster a love for the game.

I've found that kids really like to watch other kids though, especially if they are 3-4 years older and really good players. There's an automatic coolness factor there. So I would definitely recommend going to a DA game. If your kid has goals of playing at that level, it could be motivating for him to see where he needs to be in the next few years. It would be best if he had some kind of connection to the team you are watching, whether there's a player he knows, or maybe somebody's older brother, just because it will make the game more interesting for him. If he is already in a club with a DA, then it's easy. Just go and cheer on your club. If all else fails you could always just pick one of the DA teams from DC United or Wash Spirit, not because they are any better, but he'd probably be more engaged watching them, especially if he's already been to a first team match.

When it comes to pure soccer education though, young players really do need to watch and learn from the best, and unfortunately MLS is pretty far from it. It doesn't make you a "Eurosnob" to recognize that. It just makes you a non -idiot.




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I try not to bias my children's opinions or create a "eurosnob@, but even my youngest at 9-year olds will say DC United games are boring and "not good". They have had the opportunity to see several big International games so RFK and what's happening on the field just doesn't compare. Though I respect those guys! They are good athletes.
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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


I believe you missed this response:

By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Check what I've quoted above, and you'll see I was referring to that. If you're the person who posted the "pro game on TV or live" post and not the response, then I agree with you. (Except that you're the one who should slow down and read, but hey, we all make mistakes.)


Umm no, the writer was implying that I meant international. I did not mean solely international and I disagree that "nothing" can be gained by taking a 10 year old kid to a DC United game. That is hogwash. Of course it isn't at the same level as BPL but it is accessible and the level is high enough for a ten year old to watch.
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Anonymous wrote:Since fall soccer is starting, are there any especially good teams or rivalries or special players my elementary school age soccer playing DS and I can go watch? Since I hear there's good talent on some teams, we'd like to go see them play a game.


Go and watch some DA teams but other than perhaps seeing kids a little older may help relate really there is nothing to be gained. You would be better watching a pro game on TV or live.



By "pro", they mean "International" soccer. Nothing can be gained watching US college soccer of MLS.


Get over yourself.

Go see a live game. MLS, college, NWSL -- just go. You'll get to see so much more of the game than you can see if you're at home wanking it to Burnley-West Brom.


I meant you wouldn't get much out of going to a DA game you dolt. What do you think watching a "Pro game on TV or live" means? It means a "Professional game". The last I checked, MLS, NWSL as well as USL are all actual Professional leagues too. Do you think I actually meant to hop a plane to Manchester or Real Madrid?

How about you learn to read and not look for things to always be douchy.


There is no substitute for gong to a live professional match. Both DC United and Washington Spirit games provide a great experience and are a lot of fun for kids. Helps build good memories and foster a love for the game.

I've found that kids really like to watch other kids though, especially if they are 3-4 years older and really good players. There's an automatic coolness factor there. So I would definitely recommend going to a DA game. If your kid has goals of playing at that level, it could be motivating for him to see where he needs to be in the next few years. It would be best if he had some kind of connection to the team you are watching, whether there's a player he knows, or maybe somebody's older brother, just because it will make the game more interesting for him. If he is already in a club with a DA, then it's easy. Just go and cheer on your club. If all else fails you could always just pick one of the DA teams from DC United or Wash Spirit, not because they are any better, but he'd probably be more engaged watching them, especially if he's already been to a first team match.

When it comes to pure soccer education though, young players really do need to watch and learn from the best, and unfortunately MLS is pretty far from it. It doesn't make you a "Eurosnob" to recognize that. It just makes you a non -idiot.




+1

I try not to bias my children's opinions or create a "eurosnob@, but even my youngest at 9-year olds will say DC United games are boring and "not good". They have had the opportunity to see several big International games so RFK and what's happening on the field just doesn't compare. Though I respect those guys! They are good athletes.


Although to the untrained eye, Serie A futbol may seem boring to some. The Italian clubs thrive on defense and the managers are content with 1-0 win. If you're used to seeing attacks after attacks by a few PL teams or Barcelona(less so now), RM, PSG, Dortmund, Monaco, then yes the DC united games will seem like a snore.
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Anonymous wrote:Don't mean to break up the discussion but just wondering how Super Y, or Super-Duper Y, was this summer for your DS or DD??? Was the travel manageable? Do soccer practices and the DMV heat make for a kind of torture? Did you find that the coaching was decent (seems like Super Y attracts college coaches looking for a moonlighting gig)? And was it fun for your DS or DD, or does soccer just fit better with fall and spring? TIA!!!


At the younger ages travel is very local, the only real game scheduling problems are the occasional weeknight games. If you went to another club it is nice to have a different coach and play with different kids. If you play at your host club it can be fun to play with some outside kids and perhaps a different coach within the club.

Super Y is nothing that anyone has to take seriously. The benefits are keeping your kid in a bit of a routine and the opportunity to play with different kids and learn from a different coach. The biggest benefit is kids go into the fall still in shape.

Also it isn't a big deal to miss a game or two and go on vacation. If you are looking for an elite, life affirming soccer experience then you will be disappointed.


If you did Arlington Super Y - it was not a big deal to miss a game, especially since the roster was so big, and we had summer vacations, our child was only able to participate in 3 games - mostly due to the large roster size - others who were in town most of the summer were only able to do 4 games. One of the Super Y teams (not an Arlington team) canceled their Super Y program, so that killed 2 games that should have been played. Good training, but would not do it again.
Anonymous
How did the first weekend of Girls DA go? Any parents out there want to report on the games?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Back to an earlier question about how BRYC's scrimmages are going:

They had their first set of club v club scrimmage versus/at Fredericksburg two Saturdays ago. Since it is August with beach traffic and a couple fender benders it took most parents over two hours to get down there.

Last weekend and this upcoming weekend up in Boyds for tournaments.

Only other scheduled scrimmage is back down in Fredericksburg in a few weeks.


Are you happy with that new model? Seems like a ton of practice with no regular games.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Short answer: good competition, scorching hot turf fields, massive roster. Won't do it again b/c felt like we missed out on summer downtime.


Our roster was too small, so lots of play time but one game we were short which wasn't great. Besides that the training was good as our DD played up with some good players. Travel was a little much for a couple games. We were also affected by the one club that dropped out.
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Anonymous wrote:How did the first weekend of Girls DA go? Any parents out there want to report on the games?


All of the Virginia DA teams lost all of their games. Wash Spirit 0-4, 2-6, and VDA did even worse : 0-7, 2-3, 1-7, 0-10. FCV was more competitive, losing 0-3 and the the other three age groups 0-1.

The parents I talked to were just happy (or not) depending on if their daughter played (or not).

The VA ECNL teams were all in the OBGC tournament this weekend. Looks like they dominated the older age groups but at U13-U14 none of them won their brackets.

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