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[Anonymous]

This thread would only be 100 pages if not for all the inclusion of the whole conversations.

That is all.

Back to soccer arguments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ don't be an idiot. The best basketball players in this country (NBA) came from nothing.

They grew up playing street basketball. They get scholarships to private high schools. Their parents didn't have the $$.

The kids in wealthy suburban areas aren't tearing up the NBA.

So yes, some of the best basketball players came from just streetball, in my response would you say to European parents just have them go to the local parks and see if someone will play with them?!?!

Seriously, how would Europeans who want to have their child grow up in American basketball setting go about it? I think my scenario would be more in line with what those parents would choose to go with. Likewise, any soccer parents here who would take their child to Europe for a "soccer education" wouldn't just have their child be part of pick-up games(although that could be used a supplement to the structured training).

https://www.americaninno.com/boston/american-vs-european-basketball-celtics-coach-brad-stevens-compares-the-two/

It echoes comments made by Kobe Bryant, who grew up playing in Italy as a child, when he told ESPN earlier in 2015 that Europeans “are just taught the game the right way at an early age…They’re more skillful.”
When asked if he was a fan of the “beautiful game,” Stevens gave an intriguing response:

Yeah, but I’m not as big of a soccer fan, like I don’t understand the club systems quite as well in soccer, but I’ve always thought it would be interesting if the United States would have like a club system, because I think these guys (European players) grow up, they really have a great feel for how to play the game.

Just a quick note to dispel some of the misconceptions being enabled by this board: the most skillful basketball players in the world are not European. LOLOLOLOL. For example, the most critical technical skill in basketball is perimeter shooting, and Steph Curry is the best shooter in the world. When Kobe made those comments, he was roundly mocked for engaging in a pro-European bias that's sadly also quite common among NBA general managers. Another counterproductive stereotype is that all elite American basketball players come from the streets and a world of extreme poverty and deprivation. Tell that to the middle-class and upper-middle-class parents of the DMV's most promising players (future NBAers). Those parents are IT executives and military leaders. Many are managerial bureaucrats. Look, I don't want to get into a big discussion, but I'm constantly amazed at how efficiently this message board spreads lazy conventional wisdom that's just wrong. Back to soccer acronyms . . .

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Captain Obvious wrote:
Just a quick note to dispel some of the misconceptions being enabled by this board: the most skillful basketball players in the world are not European. LOLOLOLOL. For example, the most critical technical skill in basketball is perimeter shooting, and Steph Curry is the best shooter in the world. When Kobe made those comments, he was roundly mocked for engaging in a pro-European bias that's sadly also quite common among NBA general managers. Another counterproductive stereotype is that all elite American basketball players come from the streets and a world of extreme poverty and deprivation. Tell that to the middle-class and upper-middle-class parents of the DMV's most promising players (future NBAers). Those parents are IT executives and military leaders. Many are managerial bureaucrats. Look, I don't want to get into a big discussion, but I'm constantly amazed at how efficiently this message board spreads lazy conventional wisdom that's just wrong. Back to soccer acronyms . . .

Well I for one am thrilled that you are here to provide this valuable insight. Your knowledge of the sport and demographics are astounding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ don't be an idiot. The best basketball players in this country (NBA) came from nothing.

They grew up playing street basketball. They get scholarships to private high schools. Their parents didn't have the $$.

The kids in wealthy suburban areas aren't tearing up the NBA.

So yes, some of the best basketball players came from just streetball, in my response would you say to European parents just have them go to the local parks and see if someone will play with them?!?!

Seriously, how would Europeans who want to have their child grow up in American basketball setting go about it? I think my scenario would be more in line with what those parents would choose to go with. Likewise, any soccer parents here who would take their child to Europe for a "soccer education" wouldn't just have their child be part of pick-up games(although that could be used a supplement to the structured training).

https://www.americaninno.com/boston/american-vs-european-basketball-celtics-coach-brad-stevens-compares-the-two/

It echoes comments made by Kobe Bryant, who grew up playing in Italy as a child, when he told ESPN earlier in 2015 that Europeans “are just taught the game the right way at an early age…They’re more skillful.”
When asked if he was a fan of the “beautiful game,” Stevens gave an intriguing response:

Yeah, but I’m not as big of a soccer fan, like I don’t understand the club systems quite as well in soccer, but I’ve always thought it would be interesting if the United States would have like a club system, because I think these guys (European players) grow up, they really have a great feel for how to play the game.

Just a quick note to dispel some of the misconceptions being enabled by this board: the most skillful basketball players in the world are not European. LOLOLOLOL. For example, the most critical technical skill in basketball is perimeter shooting, and Steph Curry is the best shooter in the world. When Kobe made those comments, he was roundly mocked for engaging in a pro-European bias that's sadly also quite common among NBA general managers. Another counterproductive stereotype is that all elite American basketball players come from the streets and a world of extreme poverty and deprivation. Tell that to the middle-class and upper-middle-class parents of the DMV's most promising players (future NBAers). Those parents are IT executives and military leaders. Many are managerial bureaucrats. Look, I don't want to get into a big discussion, but I'm constantly amazed at how efficiently this message board spreads lazy conventional wisdom that's just wrong. Back to soccer acronyms . . .

Well lets take LeBron James as an example. Yes, he was born to a 16 year old mother and his early life was very difficult. But it was a trusted family and High School Football coach who took LeBron in since he was 9 years old. LeBron's basketball exposure was essentially that of a suburban kids experience, playing in AAU Travel basketball as well as HS.

The difference between basketball and soccer in this regard is the high school element. Scouts are not going watching neighborhood street games in basketball. But they are still going to High School basketball games as well as AAU games. But the fact that High School basketball is relevant in the eyes of scouts makes basketball affordable to many, many more kids.

High School Soccer? The overall quality has been picked clean by Club soccer and "elite" leagues. Basketball is slowly following suit but Football, for as long as it is affordable due to liability is the last stronghold of High School sports.

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I just checked out the boys' ECNL website. Looking at the schedule link for BRYC and a few other clubs, it doesn't appear that there are any games in the fall for the HS age kids--the games start in early December. Does anyone know why the schedule is set up that way? It seems especially annoying in States that have HS soccer in the Spring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just checked out the boys' ECNL website. Looking at the schedule link for BRYC and a few other clubs, it doesn't appear that there are any games in the fall for the HS age kids--the games start in early December. Does anyone know why the schedule is set up that way? It seems especially annoying in States that have HS soccer in the Spring.

I would assume its because many of these kids play for public HS teams and this way they can do both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread would only be 100 pages if not for all the inclusion of the whole conversations.

That is all.

Back to soccer arguments.

While it would be nice if people only quoted the sections of conversations relevant to their response, every page has the same number of posts, regardless of how long the posts are. So whether or not there are embedded conversations makes no difference to how many pages there are in this thread. If you're not bright enough to figure that out, then you're probably not bright enough to contribute much to this conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread would only be 100 pages if not for all the inclusion of the whole conversations.

That is all.

Back to soccer arguments.

While it would be nice if people only quoted the sections of conversations relevant to their response, every page has the same number of posts, regardless of how long the posts are. So whether or not there are embedded conversations makes no difference to how many pages there are in this thread. If you're not bright enough to figure that out, then you're probably not bright enough to contribute much to this conversation.

Passive aggressive much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, it's very simple.

Every soccer coach goes against what every other soccer coach does, because every other soccer coach is wrong. Every other soccer coach is doing things the U.S. way, but every soccer coach is inspired by a tour of Barcelona or Ajax to do things differently.

So just get your kids to play with every soccer coach instead of every other soccer coach. Simple!

I know this was sarcasm. However, I've long believed kids should be exposed to many different coaches and learn many different styles of play in their youth. They take something different from each.

I wrote that sarcastic post, and I agree.

[Anonymous]

What happened at Gunston? Their U12 boys NCSL team withdrew the day before the season was supposed to start. Everyone in their division now only plays eight games.

[Anonymous]

In four games against PDA Saturday, Spirit-Virginia DA was outscored 17-0.

In the four games against FC Virginia yesterday, Spirt-Maryland DA was outscored 20-1.

Draw your own conclusions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In four games against PDA Saturday, Spirit-Virginia DA was outscored 17-0.

In the four games against FC Virginia yesterday, Spirt-Maryland DA was outscored 20-1.

Draw your own conclusions

That's a rough start alright. Not too surprising though .. FCV and PDA are likely among the top DA teams, and it may take a few years for Spirit to develop and attract enough talent to be competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In four games against PDA Saturday, Spirit-Virginia DA was outscored 17-0.

In the four games against FC Virginia yesterday, Spirt-Maryland DA was outscored 20-1.

Draw your own conclusions

Ummm and VDA was outscored 32-6 the last two weekends and PDA swept FCV last weekend.

PDA is in a class by themselves then FCV and then all new DA clubs.

[Anonymous]

Spirit Va older teams lost 1-0 to PDA.
FCV older teams lost 1-0 to PDA.

What's your conclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spirit Va older teams lost 1-0 to PDA.
FCV older teams lost 1-0 to PDA.

What's your conclusion?

My conclusion is that you're a liar.

U16/17
PDA - 2
Spirit-Virginia - 0

U18/19
PDA - 5
Spirit-Virginia - 0

The scores are posted on the US Soccer DA website. Videos are posted online. How do you think that you can make such a blatantly false statement and get away with it?