Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Is the general thought now that this guy shot Kirk because he (Kirk) "wasn't right-wing enough"? That's probably an oversimplification, but is that the general idea? i.e., that shooter was a far-right type who found Kirk to be insufficiently right-wing?

It’s called sectarian violence. If you follow the right there is a lot of it. It has to do with political power, money and ideology. Trump has shown his weakness and his followers are fighting to fill the void. Kirk was a big unconditional Trump supporter even if it meant abandoning his previously stated beliefs. Nick Fuentes has broken with Trump on Epstein and other things. Keeping to his core beliefs. These two completed for the same type of right wingers. If you are a true follower of one you can not follow the other. The other one is a false prophet. False prophets are a known thing in Utah.

Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene are headed for the same. They are all fighting because Trump is weak, does not care about the base, Epstein, supports Israel and Trump is term limited. After the mid terms it is everyone for themselves. If the economy continues to tank the fighting will erupt before the midterms.

The right is going to break. There are just too many different ideologies being pasted together. The Midwest generally wants tariffs and big government. The western states want libertarian less government and no masked gunmen. The current south eastern and Texas economies are based on free trade. Look at Georgia. Hyundai plant raid will likely delay or stop the plants from opening. Meanwhile 4 paper plants have shut down in Georgia because of tariffs.

Farmers, leisure industry and construction want cheap illegal workers. The racists want all immigrants removed. The antisemitists want to ship Jews to Israel and stop supporting it. The right wing Jews wants all military and economic aid to stop except to Israel. Everything is in conflict.

I live in the Midwest, and we definitely do not want tariffs. Where do you get your information?

DP. Midwest manufacturers may not have called for tariffs, but they certainly want government protections. They're the ones who file antidumping suits against foreign producers. The only person I know who has called for tariffs is Sen Tuberville who wants 100% on cabinets. Normally they would file an antidumping suit.

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Anonymous wrote:They must think we’re all a bunch of brainwashed idiot groupthinkers to buy into this narrative they’re pushing. It’s quite insulting.

Hey, it's worked so many times before. Can you blame them for trying again?

Agree but it’s painful to watch. Wake up people. Read, research, comprehend. They’re lying to us.

I agree something doesn't seem right about this. I don't believe the shooter acted alone. Although there is no evidence thus far, I wonder if Israel could have possibly been involved. We have been lied to so many times by our government which makes it hard to believe anything they say.

I agree. Too many things seem very suspicious, especially Netanyahu’s behavior. But hearing all the issue with Kirk and his Israeli first donors just makes me even more concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:They must think we’re all a bunch of brainwashed idiot groupthinkers to buy into this narrative they’re pushing. It’s quite insulting.

Hey, it's worked so many times before. Can you blame them for trying again?

Agree but it’s painful to watch. Wake up people. Read, research, comprehend. They’re lying to us.

I agree something doesn't seem right about this. I don't believe the shooter acted alone. Although there is no evidence thus far, I wonder if Israel could have possibly been involved. We have been lied to so many times by our government which makes it hard to believe anything they say.

I agree. Too many things seem very suspicious, especially Netanyahu’s behavior. But hearing all the issue with Kirk and his Israeli first donors just makes me even more concerned.

+100 Couldn't agree more. Something very off with him and what he was saying.

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Anonymous wrote:For those on the right saying the left are dangerous and violent...

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/09/12/is-radical-left-violence-really-on-the-rise-in-america

https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/countering-organized-violence-in-the-united-states/

https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/the-rise-of-political-violence-in-the-united-states/

I have yet to find a study that validates that the left is mor violent than the right. To the contrary, the right is 6x-8x more violent than the left.

So stop the lying and gaslighting and certainly put a stop to what the Administration is threatening.

For goodness sake. The president was shot at…twice no less. Throw all the flawed studies you want, but surely some introspection is called for.

Are you saying the Cato institute is a liberal organization that executes flawed studies too?

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

When MAGAs are faced with facts....

🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗

ANd note thisisn't some old study.

It is dated September 11, 2025. Last week.

Inconvenient facts from the Cato Institute:

Thanks for posting this.

Yes, thank you. And the CATO institute is on the right.

The spikes in 1995 and 2016 are from the Oklahoma City Bombing and the Pulse Nightclub Shooting - both right-wing killers.

[Anonymous]

If there is a conspiracy , and I doubt it, it will come out because the people in charge are to bumbling to keep a big secret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the general thought now that this guy shot Kirk because he (Kirk) "wasn't right-wing enough"? That's probably an oversimplification, but is that the general idea? i.e., that shooter was a far-right type who found Kirk to be insufficiently right-wing?

It’s called sectarian violence. If you follow the right there is a lot of it. It has to do with political power, money and ideology. Trump has shown his weakness and his followers are fighting to fill the void. Kirk was a big unconditional Trump supporter even if it meant abandoning his previously stated beliefs. Nick Fuentes has broken with Trump on Epstein and other things. Keeping to his core beliefs. These two completed for the same type of right wingers. If you are a true follower of one you can not follow the other. The other one is a false prophet. False prophets are a known thing in Utah.

Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene are headed for the same. They are all fighting because Trump is weak, does not care about the base, Epstein, supports Israel and Trump is term limited. After the mid terms it is everyone for themselves. If the economy continues to tank the fighting will erupt before the midterms.

The right is going to break. There are just too many different ideologies being pasted together. The Midwest generally wants tariffs and big government. The western states want libertarian less government and no masked gunmen. The current south eastern and Texas economies are based on free trade. Look at Georgia. Hyundai plant raid will likely delay or stop the plants from opening. Meanwhile 4 paper plants have shut down in Georgia because of tariffs.

Farmers, leisure industry and construction want cheap illegal workers. The racists want all immigrants removed. The antisemitists want to ship Jews to Israel and stop supporting it. The right wing Jews wants all military and economic aid to stop except to Israel. Everything is in conflict.

I live in the Midwest, and we definitely do not want tariffs. Where do you get your information?

DP. Midwest manufacturers may not have called for tariffs, but they certainly want government protections. They're the ones who file antidumping suits against foreign producers. The only person I know who has called for tariffs is Sen Tuberville who wants 100% on cabinets. Normally they would file an antidumping suit.

PP is likely referring to farmers. Midwest can mean both farm belt and rust belt.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the general thought now that this guy shot Kirk because he (Kirk) "wasn't right-wing enough"? That's probably an oversimplification, but is that the general idea? i.e., that shooter was a far-right type who found Kirk to be insufficiently right-wing?

It’s called sectarian violence. If you follow the right there is a lot of it. It has to do with political power, money and ideology. Trump has shown his weakness and his followers are fighting to fill the void. Kirk was a big unconditional Trump supporter even if it meant abandoning his previously stated beliefs. Nick Fuentes has broken with Trump on Epstein and other things. Keeping to his core beliefs. These two completed for the same type of right wingers. If you are a true follower of one you can not follow the other. The other one is a false prophet. False prophets are a known thing in Utah.

Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene are headed for the same. They are all fighting because Trump is weak, does not care about the base, Epstein, supports Israel and Trump is term limited. After the mid terms it is everyone for themselves. If the economy continues to tank the fighting will erupt before the midterms.

The right is going to break. There are just too many different ideologies being pasted together. The Midwest generally wants tariffs and big government. The western states want libertarian less government and no masked gunmen. The current south eastern and Texas economies are based on free trade. Look at Georgia. Hyundai plant raid will likely delay or stop the plants from opening. Meanwhile 4 paper plants have shut down in Georgia because of tariffs.

Farmers, leisure industry and construction want cheap illegal workers. The racists want all immigrants removed. The antisemitists want to ship Jews to Israel and stop supporting it. The right wing Jews wants all military and economic aid to stop except to Israel. Everything is in conflict.

I live in the Midwest, and we definitely do not want tariffs. Where do you get your information?

DP. Midwest manufacturers may not have called for tariffs, but they certainly want government protections. They're the ones who file antidumping suits against foreign producers. The only person I know who has called for tariffs is Sen Tuberville who wants 100% on cabinets. Normally they would file an antidumping suit.

PP is likely referring to farmers. Midwest can mean both farm belt and rust belt.

And, yet the farmers overwhelming voted for tariffs since that's exactly what he campaigned on. They also want protections because Trump screwed up the industry and gave them handouts during his first term, which Biden extended. They voted for their own demise, since he also said he was going to do mass deportations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They must think we’re all a bunch of brainwashed idiot groupthinkers to buy into this narrative they’re pushing. It’s quite insulting.

Hey, it's worked so many times before. Can you blame them for trying again?

Agree but it’s painful to watch. Wake up people. Read, research, comprehend. They’re lying to us.

I agree something doesn't seem right about this. I don't believe the shooter acted alone. Although there is no evidence thus far, I wonder if Israel could have possibly been involved. We have been lied to so many times by our government which makes it hard to believe anything they say.

I agree. Too many things seem very suspicious, especially Netanyahu’s behavior. But hearing all the issue with Kirk and his Israeli first donors just makes me even more concerned.

+100 Couldn't agree more. Something very off with him and what he was saying.

Wow, I knew Netanyahu offered a lot of money to buy off Charlie for TPUSA. But apparently it was $150 million in cash to adopt an even more ardently pro-Israel stance.

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1967815159457648808

[Anonymous]

Press conference now

[Anonymous]

Having now read a bunch of the Discord correspondences, I think this is more nihlism than any sort of political message or ideology. And I am one of the people who went with the "further right than Kirk" theories.

There was almost no political discussion or messaging in what was shared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We should all be terrified that people are being framed for murder for uncovering the truth.

What truth?

[Anonymous]

These text exchanges just don’t sound the way 22-year-old gamers communicate. Feels off, as if from a fiction writer:

“I had enough of his hatred,” Robinson texted, referring to Charlie Kirk. “Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

The partner responded with shock, according to a law enforcement reproduction of the text message exchange. “You weren’t the one who did it right????” the partner texted. Robinson responded: “I am, I’m sorry.”

(Copied from NYT)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having now read a bunch of the Discord correspondences, I think this is more nihlism than any sort of political message or ideology. And I am one of the people who went with the "further right than Kirk" theories.

There was almost no political discussion or messaging in what was shared.

I'm getting more patsy fake lone gunman vibes like JFK, RFK and MLK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does a filthy rich widow need another $6 million cash? This is ridiculous.

Tucker is skimming.
It’s all a grift. It always has been a grift.
They grift because there are marks.
So many marks in this country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They must think we’re all a bunch of brainwashed idiot groupthinkers to buy into this narrative they’re pushing. It’s quite insulting.

Hey, it's worked so many times before. Can you blame them for trying again?

Agree but it’s painful to watch. Wake up people. Read, research, comprehend. They’re lying to us.

I agree something doesn't seem right about this. I don't believe the shooter acted alone. Although there is no evidence thus far, I wonder if Israel could have possibly been involved. We have been lied to so many times by our government which makes it hard to believe anything they say.

I agree. Too many things seem very suspicious, especially Netanyahu’s behavior. But hearing all the issue with Kirk and his Israeli first donors just makes me even more concerned.

+100 Couldn't agree more. Something very off with him and what he was saying.

Total coincidence. Stop asking questions. Believe what you see on TV.