Murder at Lululemon in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:If you're citing the background check as a reason that you didn't hire this person, and can demonstrate (in the unlikely event that someone attempts to file a discrimination suit) that you declined to hire men and/or people of various ethnicities based on background checks that revealed similar offenses, I think you're pretty much in the clear legally.

What if those denied employment were predominantly from a certain race even if the decision wasn't race based?

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Anonymous wrote:Do places like lululemon perform any type of background checks on prospective employees? She had a failure to appear in court and a lawsuit for non-payment of rent. These surely tell something about the person, and I would not hire anyone with this history to work in a store.

Exactly. Lululemon dropped the ball here.

As a business owner or hiring manager you have to have a valid business case for not hiring someone as a result of a background investigation and you actually have to send out a formal notice that you are not hiring the person as a result of their background investigation. For example, if she was caught stealing money from a former employer you would certainly have a case but I'm not sure about failure to appear in court.

That is total bullsh*t. If you find something on a background check, you don't hire the person. You don't have to make explanations. Show me the law you are referring to. I would have viewed her as a bad risk, not because I would think she'd be a murderer, but becauste being evicted for non payment of rent coupled with failure to appear in court=total lack of judgment and having to fire people is a hassle.

It all falls under the FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act) and it is a long and cumbersome to follow. If you don't want to hire someone you can keep looking for someone else but if you decide not to hire someone based on their background check you are supposed to send them notification and give them time to respond. For instance, I did not hire someone with really bad credit for AP/AR job because they would have access to company accounts etc. but I followed the FCRA procedures. I have hired people with questionable backgounds because I had no good business case not to do so.

[Anonymous]

There are some more details from the charging report here http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/142250/158/Charging-Docs-2nd-Store-Victim-is-Really-the-Killer

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Anonymous wrote:Premeditated. She lured her back to the store.

To argue or fight but not to kill her.

You do not know that at all! How do you know that she did not?

Ok but she probably didn't intend to kill her.

I think it was premeditated. Why lure her back? She could have just fought with her when they left the store the first time after closing.

Does anyone know if they had a sexual relationship?

[Anonymous]

A young woman working a second job babysitting, can't pay the rent, Norwood was pressed for cash and probably was helping herself to the store's proceeds until Murray found out and was going to expose her.

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Anonymous wrote:right, going to not hire a black female (two protected classes) because of an unpaid speeding ticket or because she had a dispute with a large apartment landlord when she was in her early 20s? right. what color is the sky in your world?

Seriously? You think when a black female presents for a job, you're required to hire her or be sued for discrimination?

Unfortunately this crime has caused a lot of creepy racists to show up in this discussion. Most of the comments have already been deleted. I think the best response is to either report the hateful comments or ignore them so they will go away.

Who are you saying is a racist, me or the first quote? I was the second poster. And my point was only that you cannot fail to hire because of someone's race or gender. However, you could certainly decide not to hire because they have suits against them. Yes, even for a $7 an hour job.

No, I didn't mean you. I meant that it was better to ignore the person you responded to because a lot of people have been trying to turn this into a racial discussion and some very offensive comments have been made that were deleted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A young woman working a second job babysitting, can't pay the rent, Norwood was pressed for cash and probably was helping herself to the store's proceeds until Murray found out and was going to expose her.

Although if this was the case, I can't imagine Jayna would have gone back into the store with her alone.

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With all of the bad things that happen in this world and in this town, it's hard to believe that a murder in a store that sells stretchy pants is hands down the most talked about crime on DCUM ever.

I don't mean to minimize the loss, but why on earth is this all-consuming compared to the others?

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If you are basing it on volume, this isn't the post with the most responses or views. And I think bouquet bride had the most RAPID volume of responses. So that tells you that it doesn't need to be important to warrant interest.

I find myself glued to the news on Japan and Libya, and do wonder why these topics don't get much traffic. But I guess because there's not a lot of controversy about them.

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PP again. Also, the news fully covers what is happening in the world, where this crime was not covered widely (ie not too many details released). Thus a lot of behind the scenes speculation.

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I didn't see any offensive racial comments. I think it a fair and reasonable discussion to focus on the current crime and racial statistics, debate the cause and debate some solutions. status quo is not good for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some more details from the charging report here http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/142250/158/Charging-Docs-2nd-Store-Victim-is-Really-the-Killer

I wonder if Murray slowly bled to death or died overnight, ie Norwood could have called an ambulance (not that she would have though).

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agreed. very sick that she spent the night next to the body she had killed. must have been an interesting night for her.

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Anonymous wrote:agreed. very sick that she spent the night next to the body she had killed. must have been an interesting night for her.

The wusa9 link says Murray was in the back and Norwood was in the bathroom.

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No one wants to discuss race, because they are afraid it is pertinent. There are some people of any color who are taught to hate. Maybe the perp was taught to hate at an early age. Does anyone know anything about her family?