2024 US News rankings

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Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?
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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?


Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.
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Anonymous wrote:Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?


Totally agree. I find all this bickering about the rankings amusing. You all know nothing actually changed about these schools between last year and this year, right? But USNWR changes their formula and get all these people in a flutter about it.

One of my kids is at a big school that went up in the rankings (according to the discussion here, I didn't look it up) and another is at a small school most people don't know. Both have excellent programs for the things they want. USNWR played zero role in where they applied or chose to go.


USNEWS is extremely damaging and schools should opt out.
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Anonymous wrote:Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?


Totally agree. I find all this bickering about the rankings amusing. You all know nothing actually changed about these schools between last year and this year, right? But USNWR changes their formula and get all these people in a flutter about it.

One of my kids is at a big school that went up in the rankings (according to the discussion here, I didn't look it up) and another is at a small school most people don't know. Both have excellent programs for the things they want. USNWR played zero role in where they applied or chose to go.


USNEWS is extremely damaging and schools should opt out.


I think the new methodology is just one more nail in their coffin.
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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?


Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.


That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.
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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?


Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.


That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.


Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you think your state school is on par w a “lower Ivy” and yet all rankings tell you something different, the problem is you


Depends on the state school. UVA is the best school in the South, so it probably is.

Which south are we talking about? The one with Duke, Vandy, Rice and Emory?


Vandy, Rice, and Emory all trended down this year, UVA trended up and isn't stopping anytime soon. Duke is just a basketball school.


UVA trended up to the #5 public.

It’s obvious that a troll is deliberately trying to make UVA look bad.


It's all about momentum. You want your kid to end up at a school that will continue paying off 10, 20 years down the road. UVA is only going up, and based on potential it's the best school in the South. I'm not saying it's the best school everywhere, just the South, which I think is more than reasonable. The extremely loyal alumni base helps kids get top jobs and opportunities anywhere in the country, not just the South. It's law and business schools are also by far the best in the South. Not sure what there is to discuss here.


I agree about momentum - and with that, expect Rutgers to move past UVA over the next ten years. Big move this year for RU. Something special is happening in New Brunswick, and people are noticing - so much more potential than UVA based on proximity to high level employment (location), progressive thought, and education level/ base.


Oh brother, and who EVER talks about RUTGERS! bitter post
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Anonymous wrote:UVA moves UP in the USNews rankings, and the haters are out in full force. I love it!

Please save your ammo for Wake, William & Mary, Tulane, Tufts, NYU, etc. Who dropped like a stone. Drop it like it’s hot!

Ha.



+1. UVA moved from 25 to 24 best institution in American and also to no 3 best value institution and all you see here are the parents of the kids whose kids didn't get in or weren't ever contenders (my DD) trying to SPIN otherwise
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Anonymous wrote:Can most students graduate in 4 years from UVA? There’s no issues with getting necessary classes like at UCB or UCLA?


Yea, but US News has decided to use 6 year graduation rates.


That’s because most students at schools like UVA opt into the easier majors. The harder disciplines, such as Engineering, often take a bit longer to complete.


Why would an engineering degree take more than 4 years? It sounds like the college is failing these kids.


Engineering degrees typically require more credit hours to complete. It’s that simple.
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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you think your state school is on par w a “lower Ivy” and yet all rankings tell you something different, the problem is you


Depends on the state school. UVA is the best school in the South, so it probably is.

Which south are we talking about? The one with Duke, Vandy, Rice and Emory?


Vandy, Rice, and Emory all trended down this year, UVA trended up and isn't stopping anytime soon. Duke is just a basketball school.


UVA trended up to the #5 public.

It’s obvious that a troll is deliberately trying to make UVA look bad.


I believe that UVA being a (not "the") top public is accurate. No one I know believes any more than that about UVA.



UVA moved up from 25 to 24 for best institution (college and university in america) to to T3 for best value in america. Those whose kids didn't get in or were never contenders (including my own) are acting out. Go to the charts and learn. Don't listen to anyone here. They are bitter.
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Anonymous wrote:Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?


Totally agree. I find all this bickering about the rankings amusing. You all know nothing actually changed about these schools between last year and this year, right? But USNWR changes their formula and get all these people in a flutter about it.

One of my kids is at a big school that went up in the rankings (according to the discussion here, I didn't look it up) and another is at a small school most people don't know. Both have excellent programs for the things they want. USNWR played zero role in where they applied or chose to go.


USNEWS is extremely damaging and schools should opt out.



I think that would be the rational thing to do. It's already happened with law and medical schools.

USNWR is obviously run by children. Colleges used to really care about their ranking. But this is a totally different thing. This new methodology is incredibly stupid. And any school that changes things to pursue a higher ranking at USNWR is going to suffer.

Puts colleges in a tough stunt.

If I were prez of a top 100 school, I would totally opt out from USNWR.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm still shocked that Michigan and UNC are at 21 and 22. They can't hold a candle too UVA. Everyone in my social circle regards UVA in the same tier as the lower ivies, Michigan and UNC are bottom tier party schools


Maybe you need to braoden your social circle?

I get it, but in reality, at Michigan, virtually every single program/department within the University is top 10, or even top 5 in the country. UVa cannot come close to saying the same thing.

The UVA boosters in the forum really need to take a step back.


On the west coast, Michigan is considered around the level of Berkeley and UCLA. UVA is not, though I can’t speak for the south. No one would think of it as equivalent to a lower tier Ivy here.


Are you an authority or Expert™️ of some sort? On what evidence do you base your claims?



I'm from California and they don't know what they are talking about. UVA gets some 56,000 apps a year, 4x more than in-state are from OOS and international. That is a fact.
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Anonymous wrote:UMD is getting that B1G $$ now. So long ACC!


uh UMD came somewhere in the 50s. what are you talking about?
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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you think your state school is on par w a “lower Ivy” and yet all rankings tell you something different, the problem is you


Depends on the state school. UVA is the best school in the South, so it probably is.

Which south are we talking about? The one with Duke, Vandy, Rice and Emory?


Vandy, Rice, and Emory all trended down this year, UVA trended up and isn't stopping anytime soon. Duke is just a basketball school.


UVA trended up to the #5 public.

It’s obvious that a troll is deliberately trying to make UVA look bad.


It's all about momentum. You want your kid to end up at a school that will continue paying off 10, 20 years down the road. UVA is only going up, and based on potential it's the best school in the South. I'm not saying it's the best school everywhere, just the South, which I think is more than reasonable. The extremely loyal alumni base helps kids get top jobs and opportunities anywhere in the country, not just the South. It's law and business schools are also by far the best in the South. Not sure what there is to discuss here.



+1. UVA also rose from 25 to 24 overall in the nation.



But are being outdistanced by the Big 3 publics and now UNC.


UVA moved up to T24 and T3 for best value in the nation. It is a public school. Why do YOU have issues with this? Even if you are an UNC grad (congrats), DMV students can't get into UNV due to its 8% OOS rule. UVA has a 26=27 percent OOS rule which leads to more internationals, more state reprreseantation and more diversity.
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Anonymous wrote:UMD moved up to 46!


and you are proud of that?
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