2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

Don't kid yourself, the majority of people here with UVA equities could care less. There are only a couple of people going back and forth and yes, the basher is usally the culprit.

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Anonymous wrote:(gets popcorn 🍿)

Sorry if someone already posted this, but Malcolm Gladwell’s podcast, from ‘21 about these ridiculous rankings is worth a listen. There’s a link in the article below.

https://www.reed.edu/reed-magazine/articles/2021/rankings-gladwell-usnews.html

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I don’t get the people who spend lots of time trying to identify trolls & “XYZ College bashers” & triumphantly claim to be exposing them. First of all, you’re probably wrong most of the time. I can’t even count the number of times someone has accused me of being THE Tufts fan or THE Maryland basher or whatever. Or my anecdote just HAS to be the work of a troll because it doesn’t fit in with someone’s world view.

Second, even if you are right, so what? You get a prize or something?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the people who spend lots of time trying to identify trolls & “XYZ College bashers” & triumphantly claim to be exposing them. First of all, you’re probably wrong most of the time. I can’t even count the number of times someone has accused me of being THE Tufts fan or THE Maryland basher or whatever. Or my anecdote just HAS to be the work of a troll because it doesn’t fit in with someone’s world view.

Second, even if you are right, so what? You get a prize or something?

That is why they are called obnoxious and delusional (as to the importance & prestige of UVA).

The ironic thing is, I would be glad to recognize UVA as one of the great public universities but the annoying/arrogant UVA boosters just can't let things be and must turn many threads into UVA threads and go on and on about how great UVA is compared to this school or that school. Pathetic bunch of people.

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
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There are plenty of TJ bottom dwellers attending VT.

Um, I’m a TJ parent and can see right through you. Plenty of TJ’s top kids are at VT. Just not yours.

DP: I'm pretty sure a parent isn't calling other kids "bottom dwellers" -- sounds like a HS troll.

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Florida is 28th? We're Florida residents (military) who assumed it would be an easy admit and cheap for years for our kids in 5-10 years. How depressing.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is 28th? We're Florida residents (military) who assumed it would be an easy admit and cheap for years for our kids in 5-10 years. How depressing.

May not be an easy admit but you will have one of the top PUBLIC universities in the country surpassing UVA on the way and tuition will be relatively inexpensive compared to privates or OOS tuitions.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is 28th? We're Florida residents (military) who assumed it would be an easy admit and cheap for years for our kids in 5-10 years. How depressing.

May not be an easy admit but you will have one of the top PUBLIC universities in the country surpassing UVA on the way and tuition will be relatively inexpensive compared to privates or OOS tuitions.

Yeah, if you can get in.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the people who spend lots of time trying to identify trolls & “XYZ College bashers” & triumphantly claim to be exposing them. First of all, you’re probably wrong most of the time. I can’t even count the number of times someone has accused me of being THE Tufts fan or THE Maryland basher or whatever. Or my anecdote just HAS to be the work of a troll because it doesn’t fit in with someone’s world view.

Second, even if you are right, so what? You get a prize or something?

That is why they are called obnoxious and delusional (as to the importance & prestige of UVA).

The ironic thing is, I would be glad to recognize UVA as one of the great public universities but the annoying/arrogant UVA boosters just can't let things be and must turn many threads into UVA threads and go on and on about how great UVA is compared to this school or that school. Pathetic bunch of people.

You sure are invested in this, weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is 28th? We're Florida residents (military) who assumed it would be an easy admit and cheap for years for our kids in 5-10 years. How depressing.

Florida takes mostly instate students and it is cheap for instate so no need to hit the panic button. I’d worry more about the damage DeSantis and Sasse are going to inflict to the university over the next few years.

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University of South Carolina
University of Vermont
Elon

All ranked lower than 125

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is 28th? We're Florida residents (military) who assumed it would be an easy admit and cheap for years for our kids in 5-10 years. How depressing.

May not be an easy admit but you will have one of the top PUBLIC universities in the country surpassing UVA on the way and tuition will be relatively inexpensive compared to privates or OOS tuitions.

It's an easy admit for FL residents because of the Bright Futures program. High ranking on USNWR rankings doesn't have much to do with academic standing, selectivity etc. The new metrics are more about research dollars (so size matters), Pell grant recipients (this is where FL shines--their bright futures program admits a lot of low-income kids and funds them).

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Anonymous wrote:Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?

Totally agree. I find all this bickering about the rankings amusing. You all know nothing actually changed about these schools between last year and this year, right? But USNWR changes their formula and get all these people in a flutter about it.

One of my kids is at a big school that went up in the rankings (according to the discussion here, I didn't look it up) and another is at a small school most people don't know. Both have excellent programs for the things they want. USNWR played zero role in where they applied or chose to go.

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

UVA is definitely not elite. Control yourself - don't go overboard.

Says the UVA basher. I know your turns of phrase.

UVA was elite when it was a top 3 public university. Those days are gone.

The bottom line is that both UVA and William & Mary have as much if not more in common with privates than publics. That’s why William &
Mary dropped as much as it did. That UVA managed to hold its own says a lot about the school. Even after a dramatic change in the rankings formula it is still in the top 25.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s third, fifth, or tenth in the public school rankings. What matters is its overall position. That a few other public colleges are doing well also doesn’t diminish UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

Don't kid yourself, the majority of people here with UVA equities could care less. There are only a couple of people going back and forth and yes, the basher is usally the culprit.

This particular thread could have gone forever. It's a fun and interesting topic.

But the UVA people are nuts. They hijack everything.

I don't live in VA. I don't care. But goodness, you UVA people are the most insecure, desperate, thirsty people I've ever encountered. You are not doing your school any favors.