Actually, it seems like Hamas has “tunnel vision,” what with 5,000 tunnel shafts and hundreds of miles of tunnels and all. |
It is also a failure that they cannot annex Gaza because Hamas built underground tunnels there due to necessity with the land, air, sea blockade. The tunnels became their port, but it's also their fort and defense system against Israeli bombs or Israeli settlers. So much bombs get detonated one by one insanely by Israel that some dont even detonate and actually are given for free to Hamas. This is a war of many failures on both sides. Both Israelis and Palestinians are failed by stupidity and corruption/money grubbing of their leaders |
Tunnel vision is not about literal tunnels. The tunnels are the smartest thing they could have done to protect the little sliver of land they have left, and they didnt create them for war. They created them initially to get things like insulin, medicine, furniture, books in to the country from Egypt. Israel knows Egypt is the life blood for Hamas but they want to fight Syria and Lebanon miles away instead because they dont actually want ton beat Hamas. Shocking isnt it? They do not want the Palestinian Authority to create a uniform government in the WB and Gaza because they support a two state solution. Despite a two state solution being exactly how the land is divided up now, Israel still doesnt want it because Israel has an expansionist mindset. Iran is a big threat not because of Hamas but because Iran also wants their Shia crescent in the Levant and Israel wants Abraham's land or something from biblical BC times. The Arabs are the majority population in the Levant but are facing expansionist designs from two minority faiths (Shia, Judaism). The Turks are kind of in the middle, not really a fan of Iran nor Israel nor Arabs. |
Sure seems like some of the tunnels had offensive purposes and that others are being used to hold hostages seized on October 7. |
You know what historians are going to say about Hamas? FAFO |
That's up to them. I think israel will oblige them. |
Without the whole rounding people up and sending them to death camps, there are no parallels. This is war. A war started by hamas. War is hell. FAFO |
I didn't say they were living in peace. They could have lived in peace but decided to be terrorists instead. And now they've gone too far. FAFO |
Yeah Israel is losing this war.... clearly. They will not stop this time like they have done very time in the past. Not until hamas is destroyed. FAFO |
No they are not underdogs this time, they are a nuclear power. This time, they have treaties with Egypt, Jordan, and the Abraham accords. They were on the verge of making peace with Saudi Arabia when Hamas stirred the pot to spoil those negotiations. None of these countries will risk nuclear attack to save Palestinians. They don't even like the Palestinians. Israel may not have any friends in the area but neither do the Palestinians. FAFO |
I don't think IDF is in danger of running out of bullets before Hamas runs out of terrorists. I don't know if the whole "buffer zone" idea i syria is a good idea or not but if they can ever make peace with syria, Palestinains are well and truly screwd. |
The FAFO guy has the Krav Maga bona fides to back up his talk. Prove me wrong. |
He’s an unhinged racist Zionist. Possibly also some early hair loss and trouble with women. Definitely not a father; no parent would be that sickly dehumanizing about dead children. |
As opposed to those who are reduced to infantile name-calling instead of anything actually factual? The apologists simply ignore the reality of the situation: Hamas started the current conflict and is continuing it. It cannot "win" militarily in any meaningful sense, and never could. Without Iranian support, Hamas would be completely ineffective. With such support, it is just effective enough to bring about its own destruction. Those are facts, indisputable. Israel isn't going anywhere, and Hamas activity is merely prolonging Palestinian suffering, accomplishing nothing useful. Casualties are the consequence of Hamas actions, no more, no less. Calls for the cessation of Hamas activity and for the release of Israeli hostages are the only way to stop Palestinian suffering. Past Palestinian grievances are irrelevant in that context. Continuing to encourage Gazans to try to restore the pre-1948 status quo by force is only to encourage them to continue suicide. They need instead to envision a different future for themselves, one which is actually achievable, or else face more of what they are experiencing currently. |
Just checking with DCUM after months away. Remembering how I was accused of ‘posting from Moscow’ when I referred to “Genocide Joe” over a year ago. It seems from quick glance that DCUM is still stupid, but it is definitely harder than ever to push back on the painful truth of “Genocide Joe”! |