Trump demands that Israeli hostages released before 1/20 or he will destroy them

[Anonymous]

I'm pp, so he's either going to be a murderer or a liar.

[Anonymous]

In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Interesting so Israel has rejected multiple deals to free the hostages for over a year now has no role to play? It is always someone else’s fault.

Interesting.

I said exactly none of the above.

[Anonymous]

I thought Biden was the warmonger.

Who knew?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Interesting so Israel has rejected multiple deals to free the hostages for over a year now has no role to play? It is always someone else’s fault.

Interesting.

I said exactly none of the above.

Interesting you did not out blame where blame belongs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In assuming that Israel already suspects that all the hostages are already dead and they have proceeded accordingly.

No, Israel knows that not all the hostages are dead, it’s just that they don’t care. Israeli military has long operated on the “Hannibal Directive” - that any IDF soldier under threat of being killed could be shot by other IDF. This protocol was employed during Oct 7th when the order was given to use maximum force (i.e. lethal force) to prevent the return of vehicles to Gaza after the Oct 7 attack. More here - https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/israel-idf-hannibal-protocol-hamas-attack-haaretz

It is assumed that the Israeli military and political establishment has essentially applied the Hannibal principle to the hostages - whether alive or dead, the Israeli government will not negotiate for their return - the hostages are essentially dead to the Israeli government unless they have immediately actionable intelligence that they could use to conduct a recovery raid with minimal risk of casualties. (Fairly unlikely, but has happened once.)

It is thought that about half of the hostages (mix of military and civilian) are alive (50-60ish).

Where would they have been kept, underground for over a year? Did Humas keep them all together,? There is no way this many could still be alive and even if they be are Humas will return them DOA. I am looking forward to trump stopping all wars on Day 1! What a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Iran would love nothing more than to tell Trump to stick it where the sun don't shine! Trump is going to stir up the Middle East anti-American hatred worse than it was under Carter! The Middle East hates the U.S. and they have nothing to lose with terrorists creating mischief. I don't know where or how but Trump is going to provoke another 9/11!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Iran would love nothing more than to tell Trump to stick it where the sun don't shine! Trump is going to stir up the Middle East anti-American hatred worse than it was under Carter! The Middle East hates the U.S. and they have nothing to lose with terrorists creating mischief. I don't know where or how but Trump is going to provoke another 9/11!

Yes they hate our fatness and freedom!! MAGA!!!!!! Not because up foreign policy has resulted in the deaths of millions of people in the Middle East - no way it could be that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Iran would love nothing more than to tell Trump to stick it where the sun don't shine! Trump is going to stir up the Middle East anti-American hatred worse than it was under Carter! The Middle East hates the U.S. and they have nothing to lose with terrorists creating mischief. I don't know where or how but Trump is going to provoke another 9/11!

Yes they hate our fatness and freedom!! MAGA!!!!!! Not because up foreign policy has resulted in the deaths of millions of people in the Middle East - no way it could be that!

Dp- puhlease. The Middle East has been eating itself alive without our help for a millennia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since most of the hostages are probably sadly deceased already, guess Hamas is going to get bombed.

Given that Gaza has already had more bombs dropped on it than Nazi Germany, I think Hamas is used to getting bombed. Trump can turn large borders into smaller borders, and he might incite attacks here in the U.S, but I doubt that he will intimidate Hamas.

Seems to me that his message is directed to Iran.

As recent events have shown, they are susceptible to pressure/deterrence and have the ability to influence Hamas.

Iran would love nothing more than to tell Trump to stick it where the sun don't shine! Trump is going to stir up the Middle East anti-American hatred worse than it was under Carter! The Middle East hates the U.S. and they have nothing to lose with terrorists creating mischief. I don't know where or how but Trump is going to provoke another 9/11!

Yes they hate our fatness and freedom!! MAGA!!!!!! Not because up foreign policy has resulted in the deaths of millions of people in the Middle East - no way it could be that!

Dp- puhlease. The Middle East has been eating itself alive without our help for a millennia.

Yep as soon as Israel was created the Middle East that is when the Middle East when to hell.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how Muslim Americans who didn't support Harris are feeling now. Buyer's remorse? Except, many of us said that Trump will be worse for Palestinians and Muslims in general, but some people refuse to listen.

[Anonymous]

Is there anything left to bomb?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how Muslim Americans who didn't support Harris are feeling now. Buyer's remorse? Except, many of us said that Trump will be worse for Palestinians and Muslims in general, but some people refuse to listen.

are you assuming all Muslims support Iran and hamas?

[Anonymous]

not going to play out well for the never Biden folks who voted 3rd party because of his handling of gaza.