2024 US News rankings

[Anonymous]

Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its funny that people put any stock at all in USNWR rankings. Particularly for kids focused on a particular program. I have a kid at a school that most people here would sneer at and which doesn't get ranked highly by USNWR but my kid is in a selective admit program there that is consistently ranked at the top for those programs. Should she have instead gone to a top ten school that didn't offer the program or which offers it but where the program is clearly inferior?

UVA people would say go to UVA and study anything and you will be all good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

Yep. A very triggered UVA booster!

i’d say both sides are unhinged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."

Families with more than “typical assets” do not qualify for any of this. What are “typical assets”? At Princeton it’s 200k in non-retirement assets. A lot of people like me with 100k never got a chance to shift a small inheritance into retirement (bcs my income limits that). So I’m was a 50yo solo mom who didn’t own a home, made 100k, had 250k in retirement, 400k in assets, no pension, and two kids. No FA from Princeton. I would have been a burden to my kids in retirement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."

Families with more than “typical assets” do not qualify for any of this. What are “typical assets”? At Princeton it’s 200k in non-retirement assets. A lot of people like me with 100k never got a chance to shift a small inheritance into retirement (bcs my income limits that). So I’m was a 50yo solo mom who didn’t own a home, made 100k, had 250k in retirement, 400k in assets, no pension, and two kids. No FA from Princeton. I would have been a burden to my kids in retirement

Pay down your mortgage or buy a bigger house if you don't have one. Sell after graduation to cash out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."

Families with more than “typical assets” do not qualify for any of this. What are “typical assets”? At Princeton it’s 200k in non-retirement assets. A lot of people like me with 100k never got a chance to shift a small inheritance into retirement (bcs my income limits that). So I’m was a 50yo solo mom who didn’t own a home, made 100k, had 250k in retirement, 400k in assets, no pension, and two kids. No FA from Princeton. I would have been a burden to my kids in retirement

I thought they took home equity into the formula.
Pay down your mortgage or buy a bigger house if you don't have one. Sell after graduation to cash out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."

Families with more than “typical assets” do not qualify for any of this. What are “typical assets”? At Princeton it’s 200k in non-retirement assets. A lot of people like me with 100k never got a chance to shift a small inheritance into retirement (bcs my income limits that). So I’m was a 50yo solo mom who didn’t own a home, made 100k, had 250k in retirement, 400k in assets, no pension, and two kids. No FA from Princeton. I would have been a burden to my kids in retirement

Pay down your mortgage or buy a bigger house if you don't have one. Sell after graduation to cash out

I thought they took home equity into the formula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown REQUIRES EVERYONE to submit scores. It also looks at AP exam scores. It requires an interview. The fact that the entire student body is included in the test score average (and not just only a portion of admits with high scores that falsely inflate the average) is very impressive that GU’s are that high.

It is self selecting because kids with bad test scores can’t apply test optional so it weeds out a ton of applicants with inflated GPAs and bad test scores from even applying.

It actually should be ranked much higher because its selectivity is lower than the 11% due to those factors.

They also don't accept the common app, which adds to the self-selecting nature. I agree, it should be higher.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA drops in the business rankings

Can someone link the business rankings? It’s locked in the link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."

Families with more than “typical assets” do not qualify for any of this. What are “typical assets”? At Princeton it’s 200k in non-retirement assets. A lot of people like me with 100k never got a chance to shift a small inheritance into retirement (bcs my income limits that). So I’m was a 50yo solo mom who didn’t own a home, made 100k, had 250k in retirement, 400k in assets, no pension, and two kids. No FA from Princeton. I would have been a burden to my kids in retirement

Pay down your mortgage or buy a bigger house if you don't have one. Sell after graduation to cash out

I thought they took home equity into the formula.

Many don’t. And a minority (private) calculate 100% home equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA drops in the business rankings

Can someone link the business rankings? It’s locked in the link.

UVA is top 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Writing in the Disciplines - ranking

Brown University
Columbia University
Duke University
Princeton University
University of Iowa
Yale University
Cornell University
Carleton College
Swarthmore College
Amherst College
Emory University
Elon University
Harvard University
Bryn Mawr College
Carnegie Mellon University
Oberlin College and Conservatory
Stanford University
Hamilton College
Haverford College
Barnard College
Davidson College
Georgetown University
Northwestern University

Where's UC Merced?

Writing is for losers. Much better to have AI generated multiple choice questions that identifies the profile of the test taker and adjusts questions and scores as the the test progresses.

Fill in a short form with a few simple questions about what filed typo want be in and within 3-5 business days your thesis will come with your mail. Everybody gets a trophy and an advanced degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Just when you thought UVA boosters couldn't get any crazier.

PSA: there are many people posting on this forum.

[Anonymous]

Can someone post this year’s peer assessment scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA drops in the business rankings

Can someone link the business rankings? It’s locked in the link.

UVA is top 20.

Haha I’m not looking for UVA rank. And congrats (genuinely). The UVA boosters vs haters really need to share a collective hug in appreciation for solid, reputable colleges. Anyway, requested link so I can check my kid’s school, a recent Poets & Quants top 20–not that this means much, right? Actually, P&Q ranking criteria seems fair and meaningful.