School Boundary changes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Langley is 2% FARMS and 7% black and hispanic, Mount Vernon High is 57% Farms and 71% black and hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Elaine Tholen must be so proud that her biggest fans think diversity is bad.

I think diversity is good. I also think that you cannot legislate or design it. It cannot outweigh logic. Example: taking kids from an underenrolled school and sending them to an overenrolled school simply because of a lack of economic diversity.

Langley's boundary was created many years ago--and, because of its location, included Great Falls.

Also, when the boundaries were first created, Herndon was likely mostly the Town of Herndon. There was no Fairfax County Parkway at that time. Dranesville Road was likely the main artery to Route 7. In many ways, Herndon is still a small town school. There is a real town and it is the center of the community, even though the school is just outside the edge of town.

Herndon has not always had the large FARMS population it does today. A lot of the growth of this population is due to the welcoming environment that the Town of Herndon has made for this population. So, I am guessing that most of the Herndon community is not as concerned about having Great Falls in their school as our PP is. After all, it is Herndon's policies that have encouraged it.

segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever seems like a curious way to run a school system, but ok

All the schools in the county are diverse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Langley is 2% FARMS and 7% black and hispanic, Mount Vernon High is 57% Farms and 71% black and hispanic.

So, are we going to send Langley kids to Mt Vernon and vice versa?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Elaine Tholen must be so proud that her biggest fans think diversity is bad.

I think diversity is good. I also think that you cannot legislate or design it. It cannot outweigh logic. Example: taking kids from an underenrolled school and sending them to an overenrolled school simply because of a lack of economic diversity.

Langley's boundary was created many years ago--and, because of its location, included Great Falls.

Also, when the boundaries were first created, Herndon was likely mostly the Town of Herndon. There was no Fairfax County Parkway at that time. Dranesville Road was likely the main artery to Route 7. In many ways, Herndon is still a small town school. There is a real town and it is the center of the community, even though the school is just outside the edge of town.

Herndon has not always had the large FARMS population it does today. A lot of the growth of this population is due to the welcoming environment that the Town of Herndon has made for this population. So, I am guessing that most of the Herndon community is not as concerned about having Great Falls in their school as our PP is. After all, it is Herndon's policies that have encouraged it.

segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever seems like a curious way to run a school system, but ok

All the schools in the county are diverse.

sure, some just have the kind of diversity that doesn't involve poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Absolutely. Langley has a decent population of both big law AND lobbyist families. I even heard there are some children of corporate EVPs. A true melting pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Elaine Tholen must be so proud that her biggest fans think diversity is bad.

I think diversity is good. I also think that you cannot legislate or design it. It cannot outweigh logic. Example: taking kids from an underenrolled school and sending them to an overenrolled school simply because of a lack of economic diversity.

Langley's boundary was created many years ago--and, because of its location, included Great Falls.

Also, when the boundaries were first created, Herndon was likely mostly the Town of Herndon. There was no Fairfax County Parkway at that time. Dranesville Road was likely the main artery to Route 7. In many ways, Herndon is still a small town school. There is a real town and it is the center of the community, even though the school is just outside the edge of town.

Herndon has not always had the large FARMS population it does today. A lot of the growth of this population is due to the welcoming environment that the Town of Herndon has made for this population. So, I am guessing that most of the Herndon community is not as concerned about having Great Falls in their school as our PP is. After all, it is Herndon's policies that have encouraged it.

segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever seems like a curious way to run a school system, but ok

All the schools in the county are diverse.

sure, some just have the kind of diversity that doesn't involve poor kids.

Diverse nonetheless.

I doubt less-advantaged populations are wringing their hands because they only have a few classmates with wealthier parents. Teachers, principals and staff still help the kids get a great education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Langley is 2% FARMS and 7% black and hispanic, Mount Vernon High is 57% Farms and 71% black and hispanic.

Yes, but Mt. Vernon has a very small percentage of Asians and Whites.

Both schools are diverse, just in different ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Elaine Tholen must be so proud that her biggest fans think diversity is bad.

I think diversity is good. I also think that you cannot legislate or design it. It cannot outweigh logic. Example: taking kids from an underenrolled school and sending them to an overenrolled school simply because of a lack of economic diversity.

Langley's boundary was created many years ago--and, because of its location, included Great Falls.

Also, when the boundaries were first created, Herndon was likely mostly the Town of Herndon. There was no Fairfax County Parkway at that time. Dranesville Road was likely the main artery to Route 7. In many ways, Herndon is still a small town school. There is a real town and it is the center of the community, even though the school is just outside the edge of town.

Herndon has not always had the large FARMS population it does today. A lot of the growth of this population is due to the welcoming environment that the Town of Herndon has made for this population. So, I am guessing that most of the Herndon community is not as concerned about having Great Falls in their school as our PP is. After all, it is Herndon's policies that have encouraged it.

segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever seems like a curious way to run a school system, but ok

All the schools in the county are diverse.

sure, some just have the kind of diversity that doesn't involve poor kids.

Ah yes the people who suggest "diversity of thought"...lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Absolutely. Langley has a decent population of both big law AND lobbyist families. I even heard there are some children of corporate EVPs. A true melting pot.

Jesus F Christ every damn thing does not need to be about Langley!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Absolutely. Langley has a decent population of both big law AND lobbyist families. I even heard there are some children of corporate EVPs. A true melting pot.

Jesus F Christ every damn thing does not need to be about Langley!

when 35% of kids in the county qualify for FARMs and 2% of Langley kids qualify - yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Absolutely. Langley has a decent population of both big law AND lobbyist families. I even heard there are some children of corporate EVPs. A true melting pot.

Jesus F Christ every damn thing does not need to be about Langley!

when 35% of kids in the county qualify for FARMs and 2% of Langley kids qualify - yes.

There is little that can be done to change that. New boundaries might increase the number of FARMs kids by a bit but it is not going to be that much.

I can understand why Herndon High School would love to have kids who attend Langley at HHS. Those kids are more likely to be motivated to do well in school, take more Honors and AP classes, and have better test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Completely incorrect.

All schools in Fairfax County are diverse anyway.

Absolutely. Langley has a decent population of both big law AND lobbyist families. I even heard there are some children of corporate EVPs. A true melting pot.

Jesus F Christ every damn thing does not need to be about Langley!

when 35% of kids in the county qualify for FARMs and 2% of Langley kids qualify - yes.

If Langley is suffering due to not enough children on FARMs that's their problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The racism and classism in this thread is just disgusting. Unless you are advocating for a boundary that will benefit someone other than your kids and your property values, just stop talking. When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

I'm sorry but most people would never advocate for this. In the end, their interests are most important and they're not sacrificing what is likely their biggest financial asset (house value). That is reasonable. For people not wealthy, but comfortably UMC, it is not reasonable to ask that they sacrifice that. It's not.

But, I disagree that "diversity" automatically results in lower housing value. This area is tremendously diverse. And while some schools may be more white than others, mixing it up has to be an expectation now. That's for lots of reasons, including diversity goals.

[Anonymous]

Langley is rich but the school itself doesn't have the best reputation. The principal is rigid and the kids are uptight.

It would benefit from greater diversity but they don't want it.

[Anonymous]

I doubt less-advantaged populations are wringing their hands because they only have a few classmates with wealthier parents. Teachers, principals and staff still help the kids get a great education.

+1

Here kids, we're going to take you from your neighborhood with your crowded apartments and send you on a bus for where you have to get up earlier and ride thirty minutes minimum to a school where many kids have their own cars. Your job is to teach them what it is like to be poor.

Here are some real world examples:

You play football at your current school? Good you can play at your new, wealthy school. Oh, you don't have a car to get home from practice? That's okay. You won't miss playing football--you might get hurt anyway.

To another kid: you have to get home to watch your little brother after school--or get him ready for school in the morning? I'm sure your mom can work that out. Maybe, she can find a different job.

You may think this is a joke--but it is not. This could quickly solve the overcrowding problem. It's difficult enough already to keep these kids in school.