School Boundary changes

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with making the FARMS kids move to further schools is their attendance will go down. And when things happen like this year (buses sucking), they might not go because a parent can’t just drive.

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I taught poor kids in a bused school. Truancy is a huge problem. Other problems: getting parents to come to the school for conferences; after hour activities for their kids are very difficult; sick kids who need to go home; etc.

They need to go to a school where they feel part of the community. Herndon is a welcoming community to their immigrants. I doubt they want to kick them out of Herndon High.

So bus the rich kids to poor schools

Why?

Schools with a community feel are better for all kids.

Especially if that community has zero farms students. They’re so close, maybe rezoning can get them there

Herndon is not close to Langley!

Right, but it is closer to western GF than Langley and that's the point. Instead of sectioning off a part of GF to Herndon and then relocating some McLean kids to Langley to help relieve overcrowding at McLean, they moved a couple of Spring Hill neighborhoods off Route 7 outside of Tysons from Longfellow - McLean to Cooper - Langley.

Take a look: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

Why would you move kids from Great Falls who attend an under enrolled high school and move them to an overcrowded school? Just because they are rich? That doesn’t sound fair either. If you did move those GF kids to Herndon, I don’t think that would help the poor kids at Herndon. The only thing it would do is push more kids to private school.

[Anonymous]

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Right, but it is closer to western GF than Langley and that's the point. Instead of sectioning off a part of GF to Herndon and then relocating some McLean kids to Langley to help relieve overcrowding at McLean, they moved a couple of Spring Hill neighborhoods off Route 7 outside of Tysons from Longfellow - McLean to Cooper - Langley.

Take a look: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf...High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

I don't live in that area and don't know the neighborhoods, but what is illogical about that? Wasn't the purpose to relieve overcrowding at McLean? I doubt that Langley is overcrowded now and, I think that Herndon must be close to capacity. Why would you send more kids there?

Dp here. We live close to Spring Hill so know the area well. Spring Hill was a split feeder to mclean and Langley so it made sense to move SH kids to Langley since McLean was overcrowded while Langley had space.

The part that I did not understand is that they were originally planning to move some tysons apartments zoned for Spring Hill/mclean high to Langley but ended up moving the single family houses.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with making the FARMS kids move to further schools is their attendance will go down. And when things happen like this year (buses sucking), they might not go because a parent can’t just drive.

+1

I taught poor kids in a bused school. Truancy is a huge problem. Other problems: getting parents to come to the school for conferences; after hour activities for their kids are very difficult; sick kids who need to go home; etc.

They need to go to a school where they feel part of the community. Herndon is a welcoming community to their immigrants. I doubt they want to kick them out of Herndon High.

So bus the rich kids to poor schools

Why?

Schools with a community feel are better for all kids.

Especially if that community has zero farms students. They’re so close, maybe rezoning can get them there

Herndon is not close to Langley!

Right, but it is closer to western GF than Langley and that's the point. Instead of sectioning off a part of GF to Herndon and then relocating some McLean kids to Langley to help relieve overcrowding at McLean, they moved a couple of Spring Hill neighborhoods off Route 7 outside of Tysons from Longfellow - McLean to Cooper - Langley.

Take a look: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

We were all secretly hoping that yet another thread would devolve into complaining about Great Falls and Langley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with making the FARMS kids move to further schools is their attendance will go down. And when things happen like this year (buses sucking), they might not go because a parent can’t just drive.

+1

I taught poor kids in a bused school. Truancy is a huge problem. Other problems: getting parents to come to the school for conferences; after hour activities for their kids are very difficult; sick kids who need to go home; etc.

They need to go to a school where they feel part of the community. Herndon is a welcoming community to their immigrants. I doubt they want to kick them out of Herndon High.

So bus the rich kids to poor schools

Why?

Schools with a community feel are better for all kids.

Especially if that community has zero farms students. They’re so close, maybe rezoning can get them there

Herndon is not close to Langley!

Right, but it is closer to western GF than Langley and that's the point. Instead of sectioning off a part of GF to Herndon and then relocating some McLean kids to Langley to help relieve overcrowding at McLean, they moved a couple of Spring Hill neighborhoods off Route 7 outside of Tysons from Longfellow - McLean to Cooper - Langley.

Take a look: https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY%202021-22%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

We were all secretly hoping that yet another thread would devolve into complaining about Great Falls and Langley.

There is this Herndon parent who is always complaining about this. I think this Herndon parent should move. I don’t know what s/he thinks would magically happen at Herndon if the very far west part of GF was rezoned to Herndon. Yes, the farthest part of the Langley boundary is close to Herndon. It isn’t like Herndon kids will be rezoned to Langley. Langley is surrounded by expensive housing. Even if it was rezoned, it would take from other parts of mclean or Vienna/Tysons and not Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hoping they’ll finally get rid of split feeder elementary schools. They’re always so lopsided.

Getting rid of split feeders is not a consistent priority for FCPS. They recently turned a two-way split feeder at Thoreau MS into a three-way split feeder and Carson MS has been a three-way split feeder for years. And they have multiple lopsided split feeders that split 90% to one school and 10% to another that they’ve done nothing to address.

It’s just something they’ll invoke if something else they want to do happens to eliminate a split feeder.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, they are going to make Langley 50% FARMS.

(No, they are not, and the email states that no specific boundaries will be discussed).

Gosh. That is just so funny.

It really is hilarious that the Langley pyramid with 1.3% FARMS is right next to a pyramid with 53% FARMS. Really, really funny.

With Elaine Tholen, the DINO from Great Falls, representing both Langley and Herndon, don't expect anything else.

The deeper blue Fairfax County grows, the more segregated fcps becomes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, they are going to make Langley 50% FARMS.

(No, they are not, and the email states that no specific boundaries will be discussed).

Gosh. That is just so funny.

It really is hilarious that the Langley pyramid with 1.3% FARMS is right next to a pyramid with 53% FARMS. Really, really funny.

With Elaine Tholen, the DINO from Great Falls, representing both Langley and Herndon, don't expect anything else.

The deeper blue Fairfax County grows, the more segregated fcps becomes

Yes. I remember a SB member who was extremely leftist--a true activist--but her kids went to Madison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, they are going to make Langley 50% FARMS.

(No, they are not, and the email states that no specific boundaries will be discussed).

Gosh. That is just so funny.

It really is hilarious that the Langley pyramid with 1.3% FARMS is right next to a pyramid with 53% FARMS. Really, really funny.

With Elaine Tholen, the DINO from Great Falls, representing both Langley and Herndon, don't expect anything else.

The deeper blue Fairfax County grows, the more segregated fcps becomes

This is absolutely true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, send more kids with middle class and rich parents.

Save Herndon.

Save Herndon from what? From higher per-student spending than Langley?

How is sending kids with middle-class and rich parents going to help kids from poor parents? Are the middle-class kids supposed to tutor the poor kids? Follow them home, make sure they do their homework, feed them breakfast? Keep them out of gangs? Teach them English?

All your plan will accomplish is (1) artificially raising student test scores at Herndon and lowering them elsewhere, and (2) drastically lowering the property values of homes that get shuffled to Herndon. Poor students will not fare any better (and middle-class students will fare worse, as the teachers are incentivized to focus on the poor kids rather than the average/above average ones) and houses zoned for Herndon won't increase in value.

Great plan, comrade.

[Anonymous]

The racism and classism in this thread is just disgusting. Unless you are advocating for a boundary that will benefit someone other than your kids and your property values, just stop talking. When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

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Anonymous wrote:The racism and classism in this thread is just disgusting. Unless you are advocating for a boundary that will benefit someone other than your kids and your property values, just stop talking. When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

Lol

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Anonymous wrote:The racism and classism in this thread is just disgusting. Unless you are advocating for a boundary that will benefit someone other than your kids and your property values, just stop talking. When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

This is not necessarily true (and I say that as someone without a dog in the boundary fight or any of the other petty arguments in this thread).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The racism and classism in this thread is just disgusting. Unless you are advocating for a boundary that will benefit someone other than your kids and your property values, just stop talking. When schools increase in diversity, it benefits every single child in that school.

This is not necessarily true (and I say that as someone without a dog in the boundary fight or any of the other petty arguments in this thread).

Trying to pass yourself off as an objective observer isn’t working. You might as well roll your sleeves up.

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It's not fair to Herndon.

It's a terrible injustice.

You think it is an injustice to have poor kids at your school? Are there no AP classes at Herndon?

Isn't equity better defined as equality of opportunity, irrespective of the socioeconomic status of student population? Attempting to create the same socioeconomic profile at each school is just window dressing.

But, but... "Equity! OneFairfax!!"
DP

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with making the FARMS kids move to further schools is their attendance will go down. And when things happen like this year (buses sucking), they might not go because a parent can’t just drive.

+1

I taught poor kids in a bused school. Truancy is a huge problem. Other problems: getting parents to come to the school for conferences; after hour activities for their kids are very difficult; sick kids who need to go home; etc.

They need to go to a school where they feel part of the community. Herndon is a welcoming community to their immigrants. I doubt they want to kick them out of Herndon High.

So bus the rich kids to poor schools

There you are! Don't you just wish.