$1.2 MILLION in Bowie!? “SOLEIL AT BOWIE”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm reminded of Fairwood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/01/25/in-fairwood-dreams-of-black-wealth-foundered-amid-the-mortgage-meltdown/

I was in Fairwood a couple of weeks ago. It looks really good. Whatever happened back then - they were able to get back on track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only if it was built in AA County, not PG County.

Not trying to live near rednecks.

All the rich black people at my kids’ school live in Bowie and send their kids to private in AA Co. I guess they don’t find it too redneck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm reminded of Fairwood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/01/25/in-fairwood-dreams-of-black-wealth-foundered-amid-the-mortgage-meltdown/

I was in Fairwood a couple of weeks ago. It looks really good. Whatever happened back then - they were able to get back on track.

Houses in Fairwood are routinely selling for 800k-1 million right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

If you compare school scores in Bowie to somewhere like Springfield for example, the discrepancy on home pricing makes less sense. Schools in Bowie are as good if not better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only if it was built in AA County, not PG County.

Not trying to live near rednecks.

All the rich black people at my kids’ school live in Bowie and send their kids to private in AA Co. I guess they don’t find it too redneck.

Private school in Anne Arundel County is a different beast than public schools in Anne Arundel County, especially if we’re talking about the Key School, Severn School, Spalding, Indian Creek, and St. Mary’s High School. They don’t only take Black PG families, but also plenty of white Anne Arundel families (a significant number of whom even live in some of the more desirable school districts like Severna Park) who don’t want their kids going to school with the “rednecks.” I actually know a white family in Severna Park who specifically dodged the public schools there because they’re “too Trumpy” and send their kids to Key. That being said, there’s no shortage of kids living in $1M+ homes in many of the county’s public schools either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

If you compare school scores in Bowie to somewhere like Springfield for example, the discrepancy on home pricing makes less sense. Schools in Bowie are as good if not better.

Do your kids go to Bowie schools or are you just comparing online?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

If you compare school scores in Bowie to somewhere like Springfield for example, the discrepancy on home pricing makes less sense. Schools in Bowie are as good if not better.

Do your kids go to Bowie schools or are you just comparing online?

NP
Why?
what's the difference between people who compare MoCo and "north" Arlington schools online?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

If you compare school scores in Bowie to somewhere like Springfield for example, the discrepancy on home pricing makes less sense. Schools in Bowie are as good if not better.

Do your kids go to Bowie schools or are you just comparing online?

NP
Why?
what's the difference between people who compare MoCo and "north" Arlington schools online?

What’s on paper and an actual experience is a very different thing.
You really need to look beyond a great school number and our experience with Bowie public schools was not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The elementary schools in Bowie are rated like an 8 or 9 though.

If you compare school scores in Bowie to somewhere like Springfield for example, the discrepancy on home pricing makes less sense. Schools in Bowie are as good if not better.

Do your kids go to Bowie schools or are you just comparing online?

NP
Why?
what's the difference between people who compare MoCo and "north" Arlington schools online?

What’s on paper and an actual experience is a very different thing.
You really need to look beyond a great school number and our experience with Bowie public schools was not good.

And yet that is all that is ever touted on here in regards to schools and housing stability...unless of course, the number actually means something else entirely...

[Anonymous]

Going back to soleil at Bowie. Is there anyone on this forum that has bought a lot yet. I would like to hear from anyone about the process and why it has been over a year and no home has been constructed yet. I tried to ask the sales pple and they told me I have to be a buyer first to get this information. The CEO of the company has an Instagram page and is claiming that construction is under way. I drove to the proposed site of soleil at Bowie and there is no indication of construction. The ground was not even cleared of any trees. The investment group is called Bando investments and they have another project in Baltimore called Le Ciel in pikesville. Company CEO posted on his Instagram page that construction started in 2021. I was there yesterday and the same construction picture of a half built house on his instagram page from 2021 was the same half built house I saw yesterday. It just raises a lot of questions that if an investment group whose CEO claims over $88 million in revenue does not even have 1 model house to show!!!!!!!!!! That is kind of shady. Bando investment group currently has 4 construction sites with one sold out in Annapolis but somehow, no single home has been built to completion……and this is an investment group worth over 88 million? So many questions and when I spoke with the sales people, I got no assuring answers.
Again if there is anyone who has bought a lot from this group, I would like to hear about how the process went and what excuse they have for taking over a year to start construction, and I do not buy the excuse of city permits taking long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back to soleil at Bowie. Is there anyone on this forum that has bought a lot yet. I would like to hear from anyone about the process and why it has been over a year and no home has been constructed yet. I tried to ask the sales pple and they told me I have to be a buyer first to get this information. The CEO of the company has an Instagram page and is claiming that construction is under way. I drove to the proposed site of soleil at Bowie and there is no indication of construction. The ground was not even cleared of any trees. The investment group is called Bando investments and they have another project in Baltimore called Le Ciel in pikesville. Company CEO posted on his Instagram page that construction started in 2021. I was there yesterday and the same construction picture of a half built house on his instagram page from 2021 was the same half built house I saw yesterday. It just raises a lot of questions that if an investment group whose CEO claims over $88 million in revenue does not even have 1 model house to show!!!!!!!!!! That is kind of shady. Bando investment group currently has 4 construction sites with one sold out in Annapolis but somehow, no single home has been built to completion……and this is an investment group worth over 88 million? So many questions and when I spoke with the sales people, I got no assuring answers.
Again if there is anyone who has bought a lot from this group, I would like to hear about how the process went and what excuse they have for taking over a year to start construction, and I do not buy the excuse of city permits taking long.

actually pg and bowie are notorious for permit issues and enforcement. we got a citation for our firewood not being high enough off the ground

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Die, modern farmhouse, DIE.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back to soleil at Bowie. Is there anyone on this forum that has bought a lot yet. I would like to hear from anyone about the process and why it has been over a year and no home has been constructed yet. I tried to ask the sales pple and they told me I have to be a buyer first to get this information. The CEO of the company has an Instagram page and is claiming that construction is under way. I drove to the proposed site of soleil at Bowie and there is no indication of construction. The ground was not even cleared of any trees. The investment group is called Bando investments and they have another project in Baltimore called Le Ciel in pikesville. Company CEO posted on his Instagram page that construction started in 2021. I was there yesterday and the same construction picture of a half built house on his instagram page from 2021 was the same half built house I saw yesterday. It just raises a lot of questions that if an investment group whose CEO claims over $88 million in revenue does not even have 1 model house to show!!!!!!!!!! That is kind of shady. Bando investment group currently has 4 construction sites with one sold out in Annapolis but somehow, no single home has been built to completion……and this is an investment group worth over 88 million? So many questions and when I spoke with the sales people, I got no assuring answers.
Again if there is anyone who has bought a lot from this group, I would like to hear about how the process went and what excuse they have for taking over a year to start construction, and I do not buy the excuse of city permits taking long.

Sounds like a ton of red flags. Even if the houses get built, it sounds like the timetable may be extremely long. Why not find a newly built house elsewhere, or find a teardown and reputable builder? If your budget is at least $1.2 million, it seems like you have better options than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate this insight. I live in Crofton, and I love Bowie. Our church is in Bowie, we love Allen Pond, plenty of convenient shopping in Bowie, and of course it’s easy to hop on 50 and get to DC or Annapolis. It’s one of those things where I wish Bowie and Crofton both had better reputations, but then again it’s fine if people turn up their noses because we don’t want Bowie and Crofton overrun by snobby DCUM types who would ruin it!

Crofton, Gambrills, and Odenton already have very good reputations. Arundel HS and Crofton HS are some of the best school pyramids in AACo. There is a community similar to Soleil at Bowie in Gambrills off Underwood Rd called Ridings at North Branch, and it feeds to the new Crofton HS. But I think the homes there are more expensive ($1.1M-$1.7M). People are also paying $900k-$1M+ for those tiny new homes in Two Rivers in Odenton that almost touch the houses next to them.

Bowie is also a great area, and despite what people here are saying, the schools are not mediocre at all. There are plenty of high-performing elementary schools in Bowie, and the middle and high school are decent. Not the best, but also far from being the worst as well. People are slowly going to get jealous of Bowie, especially people living in the outer burbs.

What world do you live in? Schools in Bowie are terrible, particularly middle and high school. A few kids in our neighborhood went to public for elementary but everyone I know pulled there kids out for middle and high school. No one is going to be jealous. Bowie could be nice. It is a very poorly managed city.

The City of Bowie has precisely nothing to do with the schools, which are run by the County.

Bowie was for decades an extremely well managed municipality. Personnel changes at multiple levels have lessened quality in some sectors, but City services remain extremely good and reliable. The police are good. Snow removal is good. Trash removal is a well-liked machine. Roads are good. Recreational facilities abound.

Unfortunately, the fiscal management of the council and the relative dedication to “service” (constituent-centered) rather than “government” (politician-centered) nowadays leave much to be desired.