$1.2 MILLION in Bowie!? “SOLEIL AT BOWIE”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have these homes been built? I don’t see anything about them online and the last post on their instagram was from late August ‘23. Really hope this wasn’t a scam.

Construction is said to start in a couple months. We’ve been patiently waiting. Permitting in PGC is a nightmare. These were pre-sold builds, so it’s a risk you take with the timeline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back to soleil at Bowie. Is there anyone on this forum that has bought a lot yet. I would like to hear from anyone about the process and why it has been over a year and no home has been constructed yet. I tried to ask the sales pple and they told me I have to be a buyer first to get this information. The CEO of the company has an Instagram page and is claiming that construction is under way. I drove to the proposed site of soleil at Bowie and there is no indication of construction. The ground was not even cleared of any trees. The investment group is called Bando investments and they have another project in Baltimore called Le Ciel in pikesville. Company CEO posted on his Instagram page that construction started in 2021. I was there yesterday and the same construction picture of a half built house on his instagram page from 2021 was the same half built house I saw yesterday. It just raises a lot of questions that if an investment group whose CEO claims over $88 million in revenue does not even have 1 model house to show!!!!!!!!!! That is kind of shady. Bando investment group currently has 4 construction sites with one sold out in Annapolis but somehow, no single home has been built to completion……and this is an investment group worth over 88 million? So many questions and when I spoke with the sales people, I got no assuring answers.
Again if there is anyone who has bought a lot from this group, I would like to hear about how the process went and what excuse they have for taking over a year to start construction, and I do not buy the excuse of city permits taking long.

Boy, that sounds like a scam in the works. I would never sign up for that. Even they actually built your house and the rest of the neighborhood, you'd be living in a construction zone for years. I suspect that this developer is going through rough times with this increase in interest rates. I looked up the people in charge of Bando, and I cannot imagine putting any money at risk with them.

“I looked up the people in charge of Bando, and I cannot imagine putting any money at risk with them” … What’s that supposed to mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

We've had the opposite experience. From DC to Bowie was like turning on a light. People are friendly, happy, and happy to help. I've never met a miserable store employee out here (although i don't frequent walmart, can't speak to that). My neighbors, the kids' sports teams, etc, all wonderful. Happy to be without the frequent gun shots we had in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

We've had the opposite experience. From DC to Bowie was like turning on a light. People are friendly, happy, and happy to help. I've never met a miserable store employee out here (although i don't frequent walmart, can't speak to that). My neighbors, the kids' sports teams, etc, all wonderful. Happy to be without the frequent gun shots we had in DC.

I'm sure it's all relative. We never lived in DC so it may be an improvement from that. But I will stand by my comments that service in restaurants/stores in Bowie was pretty abysmal. Bowie Town Center? Surely you can't with a straight face say the employees and service is good there? I used to shop at the Giant in Lanham and it also stood out as being particular miserable, but it's been a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

We've had the opposite experience. From DC to Bowie was like turning on a light. People are friendly, happy, and happy to help. I've never met a miserable store employee out here (although i don't frequent walmart, can't speak to that). My neighbors, the kids' sports teams, etc, all wonderful. Happy to be without the frequent gun shots we had in DC.

I guess if not having gun shots is where you set the bar, then it seems much better. Glad you're happy, but I'm not sure most people would be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

Complete opposite experience in Mount Rainier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

Precisely how was the City management terrible?

I do think that various personnel changes over recent years seem to have have led to a “we govern” attitude replacing the previous “we serve” ethic, and that fiscal economy has increasingly seemed to take a back seat, but the trash gets picked up, the snow gets removed, the roads get repaired and old water lines are gradually being replaced with surprisingly little disruption. The police seem dedicated despite more crime than there once was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

Precisely how was the City management terrible?

I do think that various personnel changes over recent years seem to have have led to a “we govern” attitude replacing the previous “we serve” ethic, and that fiscal economy has increasingly seemed to take a back seat, but the trash gets picked up, the snow gets removed, the roads get repaired and old water lines are gradually being replaced with surprisingly little disruption. The police seem dedicated despite more crime than there once was.

I mean one example is the new Ice Arena they started building and then stopped mid-project. Losing millions. Do you live there and keep up with the politics? The city council is a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

Precisely how was the City management terrible?

I do think that various personnel changes over recent years seem to have have led to a “we govern” attitude replacing the previous “we serve” ethic, and that fiscal economy has increasingly seemed to take a back seat, but the trash gets picked up, the snow gets removed, the roads get repaired and old water lines are gradually being replaced with surprisingly little disruption. The police seem dedicated despite more crime than there once was.

I mean one example is the new Ice Arena they started building and then stopped mid-project. Losing millions. Do you live there and keep up with the politics? The city council is a disaster.

Much clearer, thank you. City politics leave a great deal to be desired and have for some time. But the operational side seems to be holding together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For 40+ years people have beaten up on PG County and for the same length of time complained that “there are no affordable housing options”.

There are, you just don’t want to live near black people or be tarnished with the PG county designation.

I’ll never be able to hear the whines of a white person complaining about housing costs who doesn’t even acknowledge PG county exists.

I’m have a white family and we lived in Bowie for about seven years. The schools sucked and the city management was terrible. Moved to Moco and the schools became terrible and country management also terrible in our time there (schools went downhill around COVID). What stands out for me why we couldn’t stay in Bowie was that everyone just seemed miserable. Went to the grocery store and every employee looked miserable and was rude. Maybe the person who responded with “we don’t want to live around poor people” is right. It just had this pervasive unhappiness, and while Moco isn’t perfect either (we’ve since moved out of state) it was less miserable.

Complete opposite experience in Mount Rainier.

Same.
The folks here present as more authentic than MoCo.

[Anonymous]

What are the property taxes like in Bowie? I hear they’re disgustingly expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the property taxes like in Bowie? I hear they’re disgustingly expensive.

That seems to be the rap on PG. Really high taxes for bad schools. So that if you have kids you're better off taking your chances in MoCo.

That could be a completely outdated view, however, and I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[Anonymous]

I’d stay far away from Bowie, folks. Studies have now found high rates of gout for people who live here. Also, I have good information that much of it is haunted. Very risky to move there.